[Faith-talk] faith talk: churches and socialization

Thu Dec 19 17:11:44 UTC 2013

Maureen, that is a great idea, if the oppertunity ever arises I may share 
that common ground concept with some leaders at my church. We have many 
groups, but I think just the name "Common Ground" brings the essence of the 
need to the front.
Take care
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From: "Maureen Pranghofer" <maureensmusic at comcast.net>
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> Hi
> I agree, we have small groups called common ground and people are 
> encouraged to start one if there isn't one for their needs so they include 
> things like bowling, fiction writers, knitters, Maureen
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Poppa Bear
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 11:08 AM
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>
> Unfortunattly churches can be like any other social organisation, many of
> the groups with in the church are brought together through common intrests
> that have nothing to do with being a Christian. At our Church we have alot
> of milatary, outdoorsmen and traditional stay at home moms, but within all
> of that we have everything else, but if you were a real fishermen kind of
> guy with a bunch of knowledge about camping, or served in the milatary you
> would probably have so many invatations to fellowship that you wouldn't 
> know
> what to do. The point of this observation is to point out that not all
> Churches have the groups of people that we can relate to so much,
> unfortunatly. I knew a guy who was put out by a church after a couple 
> years
> because he never made any in roads, but after asking alot of questions I
> came to find out that that church was comprised of families who had known
> one another for many generations and had deep ties to one another when it
> came to memmories, holiday traditions and so on, on top of that, they were
> all white outdoorsy folks who hunted and fished and he was a small middle
> age asian guy who was more or less looking for a wife when it came down to
> it. For what ever reason he wanted to be excepted at that church and no
> other church and it caused him to go into a terrible depression.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Maureen Pranghofer" <maureensmusic at comcast.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:15 AM
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>
>> Hi
>> You said >
>> no one will invite me over to their place for a meal and some good
>> conversation. > and I changed the subject line here because honestly I 
>> don't think it's all about blindness.  I just heard bemoanings from a 
>> good friend who has no disabilities complaining that people are social in 
>> church but not at all outside of church.  She noted that if she doesn't 
>> come to church for a week or two when she comes they tell her how much 
>> they miss her.  But if they missed her why didn't they call or email? 
>> Why was there never a note? Why are there never any social invites?
>> And a friend of mine joined a church hoping for some socialization and 
>> found that people go to church, greet each other warmly afterward and 
>> then leave. As the body of Christ we need to be with each other other 
>> then when we are in the church building.
>> Maureen
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Paul
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:02 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>> I've an answer to this problem about the church pitying us because of our
>> blindness, and I read this statement many years ago in a book about blind
>> welfare from the RNIB.  The main reason, as I and the author of the book 
>> see
>> it, is that there is yet no practical substitution to the human eye.  For
>> some deaf and hard of hearing people there is the cochlear implant and 
>> for
>> people who have lost limbs or arms there are artificial ones which, 
>> although
>> naturally not like the originals in their totality, nevertheless work to
>> some extent.  Unfortunately even in my church, even though they don't 
>> pity
>> me, no one will invite me over to their place for a meal and some good
>> conversation.  This happened after our Thanksgiving Day service, and I 
>> pray
>> it won't happen after Christmas Day services either.  Hope that was an
>> adequate explanation.  Paul
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:53 PM
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>>
>>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I must say 
>>> I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness as 
>>> something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to pity 
>>> us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but I know some 
>>> of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't need some faulse 
>>> teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so they can bum money off 
>>> me
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