[Faith-talk] The subject which noone talks about.

Sun Nov 17 11:22:37 UTC 2013

I can tell you from experience. But that doesn't work.
Not exactly sure how he does it. And would sure like to know. But he's gotten through a block of mine already.
Tired of it tired of it tired of it.
He's gotten on a purely Christian email list and done the same thing.
Okay I see this is a face talk list and I respect that.
But never would I get on Islamic list and start questioning/attacking Islam. It's just playing out disrespectful.
Jenny

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> On Nov 16, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Doris and Chris <chipmunks at gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> If such is the case, you could even create a message filter rule in your email client and send the messages directly to trash.
> 
> As for myself, I have responded to a few of Mustafa's posts and found the exchange intersting and thoughtprovoking.
> 
> Many of us forget that this is a list for the discussion of faith and not the Christian faith in particular.
> 
> I have no intent to change my religious affiliation or beliefs but think a lot can be gained from the exchange with others.
> 
> Doris in Lutherland
> At 09:16 PM 11/16/2013 -0600, you wrote:
>> I'm just deleting them. He doesn't want our input really.
>> 
>> At 10:59 AM 11/15/2013, you wrote:
>>> I wonder how long these posts have been being recycled? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mostafa" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 4:21 AM Subject: [Faith-talk] The subject which noone talks about. > This is a very important post. > > > > This is the subject, which nobody talks about. > > > > Please, read, comprehend and share. > > > > So, what is Christian Zionism? > > Christian Zionism is a political movement, which originally descends from > a gravely radical element of Protestantism. They mostly live abroad, > particularly, in the United states, and they are theologically motivated > by the christian zionist notorious influence.  They predominantly believe > in the literal interpretation of the Bible. And, they derive a bitter > notion, based on that particular doctrinal tennet. Among the main founders > and key directors of this extremist movement, are Pastor John Hagee, the > radical evangelical Televangelist Pat Robertson, the fabricating author, > Robert Spencer with his awful companion, the liar Pamela Geller, and > finally, the heavily prevaricator and eternally expelled ex Coptic Father, > zakaria botros. Due to his stubborn profanity and inflammatory remarks, he > was permanently banned from the Coptic Church. I personally verified that > with local coptic officials. He was eternally banished from the Church for > his shameful misbehaviors and verbal assaults. He is now a radical > Protestant apologist, currently inhabits the United states.    Formerly, > he used to be an actor at the Church. He currently lives in the United > states, and he is in a regular communication with the radical missionaries > I just listed above. He is quite popular for his anti-islam views, his > affirmative discourtesy, his dishonourable statements,     his intentional > misquotes, misinterpretations, and acrimonious corruptions of Islamic > text. Well for instance, he wickedly insulted muslim women who wear Hijab. > He sarcastically described them them as the darken tents. He said horrible > things about our noble prophet, (salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam), and he > wickedly abused his wives.   He deliberately devises the meaning which > helps him to forge, to develop and promote an assaulting propaganda about > Islamic teachings.   Well however, his malefactor   equivocations were > informatively countered, substantially refuted and invalidated by Doctor > Fadel Solomon, along with many other prominent muslim clerics.  Well > ordinarily, such hateful pastors and apologists are quite known for their > enormously provocative disposition about Islam. They strongly adhere a > Zionist agenda, and it's their top priority to advocate for guarding > Israel national security. They constantly call for that in the Congress, > and in another major domestic political assemblies in the United states. > Furthermore, they strenuously exert their efforts, to essentially invoke > theological suspicions among muslim masses. I was previously asked by > couple of christian Zionists, to watch Zakaria botros episodes about > Islam. One of them is an Arab, and another one is American. I would like > to thank them pretty much for their sincere advice. They just helped me > exposing to the publicity who Zakaria botros is. They never searched who > is Zakaria Botros , nor they never bothered themselves to just verify > whether he was theologically certified to talk about Islam the way he > does. They just liked the fact, that he appears in the television, > assaulting Islam, and posing incorrect alegations about Islamic sources. > > > > > > Little that they know about the so called Zakaria botros religious > bigotry, his malicious intent, and his terrific perfidy to his egyptian > identity. He calls Egypt a terrorist state, wavering that notion to those > who he may be in touch with at the Congress, while attempting to encourage > them to potentially label Egypt as a threatening entity, and to even > occupy Egypt militarily if that was necessary. He even insulted the coptic > Pope in Egypt. Moreover, it's overwhelmingly evidenced against him, that > he stands behind the nigrified curtains of innocence of muslims, the > detrimental film which sparked outrage and violence around the world. > Although, he doesn't directly appear at the front, but it is allegedly > leavened that he is actually behind the seen, and that all the > reprehensible concepts were actually inspired by his hateful views. > Is that your best role-model sir? Wow. Couldn't you just find any better? > I'm personally convinced that Zakaria botros and his assimilators are > tremendously inspired by a hidden plot, a deeply concealed Zionist agenda. > The coptic church is extremely commendable for formally disposing this > maligned hater. I would like his supporters to present their significant > evidence, that proves his exoneration if they have any. Furthermore, I > would kindly ask my respectful recipients, to just hit over to the > following URL: > > > > > > http://www.cufi.org > > > > > > Christians United for Israel. Or CUFI for short. > > > > > > > > This is the official website of this lobby, which was founded by Pastor > Jhon Hagee. Many christian organizations in the United states today, are > utterly affiliated with that radical lobby. It's largely sponsored by > Christian organizations and individuals around the country. You may tour > their website, and then, you may possibly ask yourself; > > > > > > What on earth a religious association has to do with political interests? > > > > > > Why they would be affiliated with a lobby, that explicitly fundraises, to > supply Israel militarily? > > > > > > I can present conspicuous evidents that substantially proves my > proclaimation. > > > > > > Christians United for Israel is the largest Christian lobby in the United > states, which essentially advocates for Christian sustainable alignment > with the state of Israel. In their annual summit of 2012, Netanyahu was > the keynote speaker for this particular convention. > > Here you go: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqgDKbGUdT0 > > > > > > > > Kindly, can someone explain to me, what does that mean? > > > > > > > > The major essence of this Christian dispensationalism is of its political > apostasy. They label Islam as their common enemy in spades. > > > > You may watch this. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODwSdugsvJg > > > > Now, how can we determine whether someone is a Christian Zionist or not? > > > > What do we need to examine? > > > > > > Well, at its inception, we need to verify, whether someone or his Church > congregation are affiliated with any significant assets in Israel. > > > > Secondly, we need to verify whether someone or his Church congregation are > radically assaulting Islam, considering it as a major threat. > > > >   Furthermore, we need to verify whether someone or his Church > congregation are publishing hateful materials about Islam, Muslims, and > Muslim countries. > > > > I am skeptic of using the compound term, the middle east. Because it's an > Israeli recognition. > > > > There are many Christian Zionist websites and online publications. > > > > Well amongst them are: > > > > faithfreedom.org, jihadwatch.org, muslimhope.org, and the list goes on. > > Well, I am sharing this to essentially expand the mass awareness and > consciousness about religious extremism. > > > > As I am intensely against the brotherhood religious extremism, I am also > against the Christian religious extremism. > > > > If any religious denomination decided to highjack its faith, to use it in > gaining political aims, that would probably be considered as Zionism. > > > > Zionism is a broadly controversial term, it reflects a negative > connotation, and in my humble opinion, it hasn't yet been accurately > defined. > > > >       Do you want to know what the term Zionist actually means? > > > > Listen to its principles layed out by a former Zionist figure, Benjamin > Freedman. > > > > Benjamin Freedman has given a bravely patriotic speech to his nation in > 1961. > > > > He warned them about the threat of growing Zionism. > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A2Nc8Fjx2k > > > > Zionism is any faithful movement, which trespasses the religious tennets > of its denomination,  to essentially attain political ambitions, or > financial global dominance. > > > >  Zionist Jews and Christians are influentially imposing their eminent > authority onto the decision making arena in the United states. > > > > This is not a secret for sure. > > > > Whilst it's not something to veil, many Americans unfortunately, are > perfectly deceived and disinformed. > > > > My post hasn't been intended to denounce or to desecrate someone's faith. > > > > To the contrary, I just intended to widespread awareness and enlightenment > to my friends. > > > > Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, they all are sharing common > fundamentals, and they all are advocating for tolerance and deference. > > > > We may all agree or disagree on certain theological concepts but, what I > am warning about is totally of a different story. > > > > I am warning about a political apostasy, which commits  atrocities in the > name of the divine. > > > > I hope I haven't offended anyone. > > > > My post is intended to address the difference in between religious > devotion and, the vicious   defection which aims to gain political > interest, throughout misusing religious symbols. > > > > There could be Zionist Jews, Christian Zionists, or even, Muslim Zionists > for that matter. > > > > Yes, definitely. > > > > And this is why we rejected the brotherhood ruling Egypt. > > > > Because they were misusing religious symbols, for essentially dominating > Egyptians, tiredly restricting them, and invalidly speaking on God's > behalf. > > > > I personally consider Iran as a Zionist Muslim state. > > > > The United states is a Zionist Christian state. > > > > Israel, is a Zionist Jewish state. > > > > They all highjack religious fundamentals for political gains. > > > > This is a turning point. > > > >    Zionism is the major threat to the whole world. > > > > Zionism is the major source of religious extremism in all religions, which > nourishes radicalism, terrorism, and atrocity. > > I quite recognize the Christian Zionist pestiferous influence on American > media. > > These people ought to be firmly stood against. > > They label Islam as their major threat, and they constantly promote > poisonous thoughts about Islam. > > They are unified with the racial state of Israel. > > I challenge the Christian dispensationalism and   Apocalyptic Rapture > theologians to just criticize Israel. > > I will never get tired of speaking at this subject, over, and over again. > > I will constantly warn Americans, Muslims, Arabs, Christians, and everyone > else of this eminent threat. > > Christian Zionism is even more dangerous than Jewish Zionism. > > They misuse religious symbles to deceive their audience. > > Please, it doesn't matter where do you live in the world. > > It doesn't matter who you are, or what's your religion. > > You must recognize, that Christian Zionist Evangelists are persistently > supporting the state of Israel, whilst utterlly dismissing the plainly > insensate atrocities, which Israel commits on a daily basis against > Palestinian civilians, either they were Muslims, or Christians. >    In addition, Christian Zionist Evangelists tolerate roket strikes, > Neuclar bombing of Palestinian civil means, as long as that justifys > expanding the settlement construction of Israel military occupation. > > Christian Zionist Evangelists encourage nourishing the radical sense and > sectarian strife among Muslims and Christians in mostly populated Muslim > countries, to justify the foreign intervension to defy the fraudulently > proclaimed religious persecution   which they emphatically fabricate. > >   Christian Zionism is not a myth. > > The real myth is to attempt denying its existence and its effective > presence onto the United states political rhetoric. > > Please, don't think I am exaggerating. > > Help me spreading the cautionary sentiment, warning the people about the > Christian Zionist influential authority. > If you were a Christian, and you attempted to somehow belittle the subject's > substantial enormity, I am afraid that I will have to consider you > involved, or influenced by this political ideology. > > > _______________________________________________ > Faith-talk mailing list > Faith-talk at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Faith-talk: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/heavens4real%40gmail.com 
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