[Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist subjection.
Christine Olivares
rafael4490 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 21 19:13:42 UTC 2014
RJ and Andrew,
How would you like it if I called you no-it-alls? How would you like to be known as “jerks?” Better yet, how would you like it if I said that you really have no right to be on this list if you are going to belittle Mostafa?
Andrew, you are a Christian, correct? Right now, you are not acting as a christian. In fact, if Jesus knocked on your door right now and saw all you did, he would be weeping right now. He would be very upset and want you to “love one another.” Loving is not belittling someone. You could just keep your comments to yourself.
RJ, I could call you a no-it-all because of the responses you have. you may have a doctorate, but by you rubbing it in, you are just as bad as you claim Mostafa to be. Who cares if you have a doctorate? It doesn’t change your attitude…it’s just a piece of paper, nothing more. So why don’t you stop acting like the no-it-all and just shut up about everything? It’s one thing to have an intellectual argument, but belittling people is not tolerated on this list!! I think the smartest people are those not contaminated by so much education and live a simple life and appreciate the simple things. You are not only physically blind, you are very much spiritually blind as well if you treat anyone the way you are treating them.
Just remember, Andrew and RJ, “Pride comes before the fall.”
Mostafa, again, I’m sorry about all that is happening. The moderator goes on vacation, and RJ and Andrew act like jerks, not people who embody faith and love. God bless.
Christine
On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:45 PM, justin williams via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I do as well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> via Faith-talk
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:41 PM
> To: Brandon A. Olivares; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and
> religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist
> subjection.
>
> If a second is needed or encouraged, I second Brandon's comment. Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>; "Faith-talk,for the
> discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist
> subjection.
>
>
> RJ,
>
> Perhaps you should act with a bit more respect. You’ve been nothing but mean
> and condescending in this thread.
>
> Peace,
> Brandon
> On Jul 21, 2014, at 9:55 AM, RJ Sandefur via Faith-talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Stop trying to act like you're a college professor
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mostafa Almahdy via Faith-talk"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to
>> theZionist subjection.
>>
>>
>> MR. Bear, I can barely bear your enormous nescience.
>>
>> This is also known as sophism.
>>
>> I will not respond to such fallacious allegations.
>>
>> I basically wanted you to scientifically verify the perfection of the
>> biblical translation that you hold and regard as inerrant.
>>
>> I apologize for asking you to do this.
>>
>> It seams that I have asked for something far away from your humble
>> competency.
>>
>> I did not expect you to unintelligently extrapolate the scrutiny.
>>
>> Therefore, I attempted to remind you that we are particularly
>> scrutinizing the authenticity of the transmission of a sacred text
>> called the Bible.
>>
>> This Bible is translated from languages that we cannot have access to
>> in our contemporary age, these languages are basically extinct, or at
>> least, they are unused by laymen people in our modern age.
>>
>> Jesus peace be upon him spoke Aramaic and so his disciples did.
>>
>> But your English edition of the controversial parables is brought from
>> Ancient Greek, whilst the Old Testament is brought from Ancient
>> Hebrew, and they both are virtually nonextant, their manuscripts are
>> not exposed to the public arena, unless for handful of specialized
>> scholars.
>>
>> I am quite taken aback of your imbecilic induction.
>>
>> Without fallaciously attempting to malignly doubt my faith, nor
>> attempting to indecisively assault me with insignificant allegations,
>> I wholeheartedly encourage you to go and commence a thorough research
>> on the subject.
>>
>> Of course, the word of God is inerrant and utterly perpetual.
>>
>> But, we are particularly talking about what God revealed, not about
>> what people translated with their own additions, omissions, textual
>> alteration and deliberate distortion of the text.
>>
>> As I just articulated, do not take my absurd statements as truthful,
>> consider them as deceitful, conditionally with presenting your
>> critical evidence.
>>
>> But I am afraid, ranting and personal assaults are not fit to do the job.
>>
>> Peace and blessings, Mostafa.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/14, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Mustafa, I was talking about the ability to gather accurately
>>> the transmitted data from cultures throughout history in any field of
>>> study related to a written text, that truth is still a reality
>>> regardless of whether or not you like to pick and choose the best
>>> words of elocution to try and prove your points. This was called
>>> sophistry in ancient days and I think you have acquired a formidable
>>> ability to execute it in your arguments. You do indeed dismiss
>>> anything that does not fit your argument
>>> even if it is valid, you will still take an arbitrary direction and
>>> avoid
>>> the points of any person who responds to you. You keep fighting
>>> against the Bible and making your various arguments, but I know that
>>> the living God is able to defend his word just fine.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Mostafa via Faith-talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:38 AM
>>> To: oilofgladness47 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to the
>>> Zionist subjection.
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings.
>>>
>>> It was immediately after my post that I have got ranging responses,
>>> from considering my scrutiny irrelevant to inconsistently comparing
>>> sacred translations with the constant transmission of terrestrial
>>> disciplines such as Astronomy, Ecology, Mathematics, and other
>>> related scientific branches.
>>>
>>> The one who incorrectly posed this inconsistent analogy should have
>>> known that physical science is the study of the physical and natural
>>> world using theoretical models and data from experiments or
>>> observation.
>>>
>>> But sacred text is not based on that.
>>>
>>> Sacred text is based on divine legitimacy and reliability.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, physical science is temporal, and it constantly evolves
>>> as new discovery and scientific developments unfold.
>>>
>>> Whilst in addition, sacred text is unaltered, it is not edited,
>>> motified, nor even recontextualized.
>>>
>>> I reserve the right to criticize any form of belief, as long as I
>>> am devoting my arguments to enlightening propositions, and that does
>>> not mean I am doubtful of my faith, it is basically preposterous for
>>> someone to think so.
>>>
>>> Well, someone is certainly pitiful enough to delude himself with such
>>> miserably absurd illusions.
>>>
>>> Now, we are back again to verbally defy the plain obstinacy
>>> of guarding aggression and transgression.
>>>
>>> The Constitution of the United States is the most honorable
>>> constitution in the world.
>>>
>>> It strictly prohibits ethnic cleansing, mass murder, suppression,
>>> subjection and military strikes on civil targets.
>>>
>>> I am not flattering Americans though, I am basically uttering the truth.
>>>
>>> I distinctly honor and respect the humanrights principles which the
>>> U.S Constitution strongly affirms and it is based on that.
>>>
>>> The U.S constitution recognizes people equal before the supreme law,
>>> and it does not opt anyone on either racial, ethnic or religious
>>> superiority complex.
>>>
>>> Well unfortunately, there are some minors who considers themselves
>>> crème de la crème, they consider themselves eminent, even beyond the
>>> constitutional principles, and they think that an insect in New York
>>> is worthful than a human being in Gaza.
>>>
>>> Those who devote themselves to such abominable attitude are not
>>> humans, although they look like humans, but they think and act like
>>> devilish species.
>>>
>>> They viciously belong to mephistophelean species because of their
>>> radical arrogance and cruelty.
>>>
>>> I emphasize again as I have done many times before, Original sin in
>>> Islam is not reprobating Adam and Eve for eating from the forbidden
>>> tree, it is rather acting in pride and arrogance.
>>>
>>> This is the resentment of Lucifer who is the chief adversary of
>>> cynicism.
>>>
>>> He is demonized to eternal damnation because of his radical arrogance
>>> and bigotry.
>>>
>>> Pro Israel supporters and their allies consider themselves the
>>> highest of high, the chosen people, the children of God, and
>>> therefore, anyone who opposes them is not a human, and he is worth it
>>> for a shoot.
>>>
>>> We will never bow down to their oppressive authority, defiance should
>>> persist, and we ultimately shall prevail.
>>>
>>> I will make sure to pass my defying sentiment to a broader scale, so
>>> we will uninterruptedly pressure on Israel and its pro allies on
>>> international scope, until we force them to decease using the force
>>> to bow Palestinians down.
>>>
>>> As President Anwar el-Sadat said;
>>>
>>> "What was taken by force is never regained by rather than force".
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a
>> shoreless ocean.)
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