[Faith-talk] healing, blindness and other thoughts

[qubit]

I agree with all this, and will add that many times doctors pray before 
procedures, and people pray for them. This can result in blessings for the 
doctor and the patient.
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christine Olivares via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Brandon Anthony Olivares" <programmer2188 at gmail.com>; "Faith-talk,for 
the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] healing, blindness and other thoughts


I agree with Maurine that miracles do happen today. I am a big believer in 
the laying on of hands, however when I do it for people, I ask them what 
they would like prayer for. So if I do see someone blind or crippled or 
whatever, I don’t assume they want physical healing unless they specifically 
say so. I believe in the movement of the Holy Spirit, so if I am led to pray 
for people I do, but I always take them into consideration first and ask 
what they would like prayer for.

As for physical healing, I am not attached whether I am or not. Sure, I will 
ask for it from time to time, but I am not attached to the results. it’s 
more of a “why not?” kind of thing, and if someone does want to pray for me 
I do allow it but I also grew up with it so it doesn’t make me feel 
uncomfortable because they are just showing love. However, if they are doing 
it out of pity that is another story.

there are times I wish my glaucoma were healed, but not because of the site 
but because of the perpetual pain I am in all the time, meaning physical 
pain feeling the pressure behind my eyes. Surgery hasn’t really helped as 
sit should have.

I do not believe in the ideas of Christian Scientists. All I know is they 
don’t believe in doctors, and doctors have helped me a lot. I think a 
combination of medical and spiritual is the way to go. You can’t have one 
without the other in my opinion. I mean, the book of Ecclesiastes says to go 
see a doctor, in so many words, so God must have a plan for doctors.

God bless,
Christine
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I agree Jorge. Blindness is not something to be cured. If we see it as 
> something that is wrong with us, then we can’t really make as much of our 
> lives as we can. I’ve been blind since the age of 4, and am perfectly 
> happy as I am.
>
>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Jorge Paez via Faith-talk 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:faith-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>
>> I for one dont want my sight back, and i find it extremely annoying when 
>> people want to pray for God to give me sight as if there was anything 
>> wrong with being blind.
>> No thank you, God made me this way and i am happy being blind and dont 
>> feel like I missed anything.
>> Sorry about the rant, but when blind or cited Christians start talking 
>> about "" getting cured "", it ticks me off to no end.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Maureen Pranghofer via Faith-talk 
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> Personally I believe Jesus still heals though we don't see many healings 
>>> of blind people here, however He is still doing it in other countries. I 
>>> know of a missionary to India who prayed for a guy born with no eyes in 
>>> India, the blind man was not a believer.  Nothing happened.  But the 
>>> next day he woke up seeing perfectly.  Because of that he believed in 
>>> the Savior.  And so I sometimes ask for this and sometimes I feel I get 
>>> glimpses of things though it is not physical.
>>> As for Christian Science a friend of mine, well her parents were strong 
>>> believers and the only thing I knew of them is that they did not believe 
>>> in doctors at all.
>>> Maureen
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: qubit via Faith-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:12 AM
>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] healing, blindness and other thoughts
>>>
>>> Has anyone else played the mental game of wondering if your vision loss 
>>> or
>>> improvement carries some message from God?  Probably everyone who has 
>>> lost
>>> vision gradually over many years has prayed for more sight, or no more 
>>> loss.
>>> Something about sight carries a spiritual message in some passages of
>>> scripture.  I can't remember the verses any more. But I think
>>> second-guessing what changes in your vision mean (if there is a meaning) 
>>> is
>>> a futile activity.
>>> Sorry.  I should look up the quote but I don't have it handy.
>>>
>>> Has anyone read "Science and Health and Key to the Scriptures"? Someone
>>> recommended it to me. I know nothing about Christian Science.  Anyone 
>>> have
>>> experience with it?
>>>
>>> I'm just curious.  I've long since been resigned to being blind the rest 
>>> of
>>> my life, but there's always things to learn.
>>>
>>> Excuse the ramble.
>>> --le
>>>
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