[Faith-talk] Church experiences

Thu Sep 10 17:14:51 UTC 2015

Hello Erica, I love that idea of a Shepherd buddy, it seems to give a
specific goal and purpose for members in a church and the clear kind of
instructions that many people need in order to get them in a active role in
their Church body. I also agree that many people have a fear of being
depended on, most people are struggling just to be reliable for their own
family and close friends let alone somebody who they just met. It is a
bitter sweet truth, but the Church has a lot of broken people who are not
really relying on Jesus for inner Spiritual healing so they persist in being
weighed down by broken hearts, worldly distractions and lusts of the flesh
that never satisfy. I am not saying this as a judgment against week or
worldly Christians, I am speaking from my own personal experience and short
comings.   

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Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences

In Kenosha Wisconsin your two choices are to call the congregation and find
a ride or walk. It's ridiculously expensive to take a cab anywhere. As far
as paratransit is concerned it's my understanding that nationwide if regular
transit doesn't run, paratransit doesn't run. Most places in the state of
Wisconsin have no transit on weekends bus this would not be a solution for
us. I hope you can find a solution Rob. Unless you find some special
connection there, I would suggest finding another congregation that feeds
you physically, emotionally, and spiritually. The only reason I thrive in my
dying congregation is because I have been there for so many years. The point
brought out that sometimes a congregation has so many people who struggle to
get around them selves they're not able to offer something to others. It's
not so much that they don't want to, but there are embarrassed that they
can't be as reliable as you need. Being new doesn't always help here either.
Have you considered meeting your pastor for coffee somewhere and hashing
things out? I know it my congregation any new members are matched up with a
"Shepherd" who is kind of your Faith buddy. Not only are they someone you're
actually paired up with to learn what the congregation offers and get you
involved, but they are also that single person that kind of helps you get to
know others and connect. Our congregation tries to match up people of
similar and trust and faith stories together so they can relate and bond.
They've learned over the years that if you have one friend you're more
willing to stay. They do this with anyone, so it's not anything different
they'd do for someone with a disability. Even if the pastor can connect you
with a couple of people in your part of the community that you might be able
to call and get a ride with would be great. I'm trying to get my
congregation to have a ride to list because we cannot afford to have their
own van or bus to go pick up people who cannot drive. As our older
congregation members are either passing away or unable to drive themselves,
I see this as coming down the pike. Right now the elderly seem to pick up
their friends who cannot drive anymore. 

If nothing else, pull on your pastor the "when you do this for the least of
these, you do this for me ". They probably just never thought about it that
way. Keep us updated and I hope for a positive outcome. 

Ericka Short
"Friends are like flowers in the garden of life"

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> On Sep 8, 2015, at 9:56 PM, tina sohl via Faith-talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Rob, we have a cab subsidy program in our area and wonder if there's
something similar for you if you haven't looked, maybe asking the city about
it. We can a certain amount of money load  a month to get specific dollar
amounts loaded on a cab card that we can use and the city we're subsidizes
the rest. It does help some. have you looked in to such a thing? it might be
worthy it.
> Original message:
>> There are busses but the service is very limmited on sundays & like 
>> the pera transit service, they stop @8 pm on week days & 5 pm on 
>> weekends. Cabs are just very dificult to get & II as I wrote before, they
are very expensive.
>> There probably is another church but it would be further away & 
>> possibly harder to get to as far as  transportation. Victorville is a 
>> great town in may instances, but it isn't a good place for disabled 
>> individulas. Right now, because of my limmited income, this is where I
need to live.
> 
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> 
>> Rob Kaiser
>> hm#(442)242-7044
>> email;
>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tina sohl via Faith-talk
>> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 11:23 AM
>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: tina sohl
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
> 
>> Are there not buses or cabs there? are there other churches you can 
>> try? We have so far found our new church to be a very positive change.
>> Itt's not easy, but we felt restless and like things werent going 
>> anywhere so felt god urging us to try somerthing else and so far it's 
>> been very good.
>> Original message:
>>> Since I moved up here to Victorville, I have had a not-so-good 
>>> church
>>> experience: I wanted  to join the choir but because of the lac of 
>>> public and pera transit up here,  I needed rides to and from church. 
>>> Not a one person has come forward to help  me in this endever.
> 
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> 
>>> Rob Kaiser
>>> hm#(442)242-7044
>>> email;
>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Roanna Bacchus via Faith-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 11:24 AM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
> 
>>> Hi Adrijana this is a great discussion topic.  My church expeerience 
>>> has been wonderful.  I joined the choir in October of two thousand 
>>> eight and the people were gracious and kind to me.
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