[Faith-talk] Church experiences

Fri Sep 18 19:59:21 UTC 2015

I am glad that is working for you. Thanks for sharing.

On 9/18/15, Poppa Bear via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello Danielle, I'm sorry to hear about your Church experiences. I will say
> that in my case, my primary reasons for attending Church are my desire to
> give God my time, I really want to show him that I am willing to sacrifice
> my days, energy , and even comfort sometimes, I want to show him thanks,
> participate in corporate worship, try and be an active member of a local
> body of believers and appreciate the fact that I live in a country where
> people can still congregate in the name of Jesus, read a Bible and listen to
> preaching. If I started to focus on myself, or members of the Church and how
> they view me, what they are, or are not doing, then  I would probably find
> all kinds of reasons not to go. It is different for everybody so I don't
> want you to think that I am condemning or judging you, I only wanted to
> share my perspective with you. I hope you are finding His peace in your life
> and growing closer to the Savior.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Danielle Lead via Faith-talk
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:58 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> Cc: Danielle Ledet
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>
> Well, I don't go to church anymore. To many hurtful experiences and so I
> stay home. That way nobody feels the need or has the opportunity to worry
> about my worship and lifestyle choices. People I thought were with me and
> for me weren't and the others trying to resurrect me or right me or
> something like that.
>
> On 9/17/15, melissa R Green via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> It is good to know that many have had good experiences with churches.
>> I have had more bad than good.  Thus, I now consider myself a believer
>> that is nonon-practicing.  I have had many people thank me for this
>> term because they don't know what to say.  And it really fits me, and
>> I don't have to say I am non-dinoninational or any specific religion.
>> One day it is my prayer that we will have acceptance even in the church.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Melissa R. Green and Pj
>> It is 'where we are' that should make all the difference, whether we
>> believe we belong there or not.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> andrew edgcumbe via Faith-talk
>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:14 AM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>>
>> sadly  allot of churches judge people and  that is what makes people
>> leave far to many play god or Jesus is another way to put it.  yes sin
>> is sin but it is not our job as the church to condemn that is god's job.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Ericka via Faith-talk <
>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your nice responses Debbie, Papa bear etc. So many
>>> times I feel almost guilty for having positive experiences. I feel so
>>> sad when I hear about negative experiences as such a place where our
>>> calling as Christians or any faith community is to make others feel
>>> welcome and share faith and fellowship together. Though it's not
>>> explicitly said most faith traditions have a rule similar to the
>>> golden rule. Sadly we break this one disabled or not. Bless you for
>>> you are all my neighbors. I only hope to be a good neighbor. I know I am
>>> not a perfect one!
>>>
>>> Ericka Short
>>> "Friends are like flowers in the garden of life"
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Poppa Bear via Faith-talk <
>>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Erica, I enjoyed hearing about your Church experience. It makes me
>>> > want
>>> to go down the street about a mile and fellowship at the Lutheran Church.
>>> One of my daughters attended a preschool program there a few years
>>> ago and I really connected with the pastor on both a friend and
>>> scholastic level.
>>> He was a jovial guy and he and his family lived behind the Church in
>>> a Parsonage/Pastors home. That is rare to find in this day and age,
>>> many Pastors couldn't imagine having to live on the Church property
>>> and be that committed to all of the related aspects of responsibility
>>> that a living situation like that would bring, but I myself think
>>> that it would be ideal.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> > Of
>>> Ericka via Faith-talk
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:35 PM
>>> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> > Cc: Ericka
>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>>> >
>>> > What a great question and I've been watching the responses. I've
>>> > been
>>> pretty blast silly years and been excepted pretty well into any
>>> congregation I've been a member of. Like many others I've done some
>>> church shopping in my time. We have to keep in mind when we respond
>>> hear that our experiences just that. Every community – city and
>>> faith community are different. I've had better luck with the Lutheran
>>> Church is I've attended than anyone else as far as being welcomed and
>>> included in activities.
>>> Growing up my UCC congregation was willing to let me do most anything.
>>> Catholic, Baptists, and fundamentalists either wouldn't have anything
>>> to do with me or wanted to fix me. They didn't want me just as I am.
>>> I believe Jules would want me just the way he made me and that's why
>>> I bailed among other reasons. It disturbs me that I see church
>>> members treating visually impaired differently than the totally
>>> blind. I've had this experience many times with my boyfriend who lost
>>> his vision later in life. I was a new person to their congregation in
>>> Madison. He had been attending this Baptist Church for a year. Nobody
>>> really came up to him and spoke to him at all except the pastor. A
>>> couple here and there came up and said hello Shook his hand and then
>>> walked off just as he was trying to engage in conversation.
>>> However they did speak to me and asked me questions about him like he
>>> doesn't exist or couldn't speak for himself. 12 years ago I could see
>>> my congregation doing this but I am very proud of them they have
>>> never done this to any blind friend I have brought to church with me.
>>> Not that I didn't have to fight or charm them into understanding that
>>> I was quite capable and had a calling from God to share talents with
>>> them. In my current ELCA church (Evangelical Lutheran Church in
>>> America) people joke that I've done almost everything but preach.
>>> Well, it's almost true since I've taught Sunday school for all ages,
>>> served on several committees, submitted proposals for Service
>>> projects to council which were amazingly excepted, began on homebound
>>> Ministry to shut ins, volunteered to be a part of the process to find
>>> a new pastor, and gave children sermons when we were between pastors
>>> a few times. I'm not as involved as I used to be because I am
>>> planning to move, but as one person said on here quite a while ago
>>> your actions and attitude sometimes affect how you are welcomed in a
>>> congregation. St. Paul's Lutheran Church has been incredibly
>>> wonderful to me but I have tried so hard to give back as well. God
>>> has truly blessed me by putting me in this congregation. I have lots
>>> of good friends who are willing to pick me up at the bus station when
>>> I come from out of town, they call me when they're going to the
>>> grocery store asking if I need a ride, and we do fun things as well.
>>> I went from nobody talking to me either from being asked to be at
>>> church council and having to turn it down. Nothing changed overnight
>>> and I'll tell you there was a lot of prayer involved in these years
>>> of how to ask. God gives you what you need and how to ask for it as
>>> well as how to be active in your congregation at the right time. Now
>>> most of my time is spent lecturing, assisting with
>>> communion/eucharist, and being my congregations representative to an
>>> interfaithfaith-based human rights advocacy group which the pastor
>>> actually sought me out to do. God works in mysterious ways we have to
>>> remember that. I can't wait to see what he believes I can do next. I
>>> certainly know it will not be singing in the choir!
>>> >
>>> > Ericka Short
>>> > "Friends are like flowers in the garden of life"
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> >> On Sep 8, 2015, at 11:03 PM, Rob Kaiser via Faith-talk <
>>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I will do that, but I don't believe Victorville has such a program.
>>> Thanks for the suggestion. I'll call the city tomorrow.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Rob Kaiser
>>> >> hm#(442)242-7044
>>> >> email;
>>> >> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: tina sohl via Faith-talk
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 7:56 PM
>>> >> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >> Cc: tina sohl
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>>> >>
>>> >> Rob, we have a cab subsidy program in our area and wonder if
>>> >> there's something similar for you if you haven't looked, maybe
>>> >> asking the city about it. We can a certain amount of money load  a
>>> >> month to get specific dollar amounts loaded on a cab card that we
>>> >> can use and the city we're subsidizes the rest. It does help some.
>>> >> have you looked in to such a thing? it might be worthy it.
>>> >> Original message:
>>> >>> There are busses but the service is very limmited on sundays &
>>> >>> like the pera transit service, they stop @8 pm on week days & 5
>>> >>> pm on weekends. Cabs are just very dificult to get & II as I
>>> >>> wrote before,
>>> they are very expensive.
>>> >>> There probably is another church but it would be further away &
>>> >>> possibly harder to get to as far as  transportation. Victorville
>>> >>> is a great town in may instances, but it isn't a good place for
>>> >>> disabled individulas. Right now, because of my limmited income,
>>> >>> this is where I
>>> need to live.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Rob Kaiser
>>> >>> hm#(442)242-7044
>>> >>> email;
>>> >>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: tina sohl via Faith-talk
>>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 11:23 AM
>>> >>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>> Cc: tina sohl
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>>> >>
>>> >>> Are there not buses or cabs there? are there other churches you
>>> >>> can try? We have so far found our new church to be a very positive
>>> >>> change.
>>> >>> Itt's not easy, but we felt restless and like things werent going
>>> >>> anywhere so felt god urging us to try somerthing else and so far
>>> >>> it's been very good.
>>> >>> Original message:
>>> >>>> Since I moved up here to Victorville, I have had a not-so-good
>>> >>>> church
>>> >>>> experience: I wanted  to join the choir but because of the lac
>>> >>>> of public and pera transit up here,  I needed rides to and from
>>> >>>> church.
>>> >>>> Not a one person has come forward to help  me in this endever.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>> Rob Kaiser
>>> >>>> hm#(442)242-7044
>>> >>>> email;
>>> >>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>> From: Roanna Bacchus via Faith-talk
>>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 11:24 AM
>>> >>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >>>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>>> >>
>>> >>>> Hi Adrijana this is a great discussion topic.  My church
>>> >>>> expeerience has been wonderful.  I joined the choir in October
>>> >>>> of two thousand eight and the people were gracious and kind to me.
>>> >>
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