[Faith-talk] Sharing blindness skills at church

Tue Oct 4 13:02:05 UTC 2016

Hi Bill, Chad here, I actually had the idea last week or couple weeks ago about doing that and it's going to happen sometime in November. I just got sick of people dragging me around and doing things for me without asking, so I had the idea of this discussion that we will have. Ericka will be helping me, but it actually was my idea.

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> On Oct 4, 2016, at 7:09 AM, Bill Outman via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Ericka, that's a good idea.  I want to share an experience with this I had
> back on November 30, 2014 about this.  I am adapting the account here from
> my personal journal account from that day.  This event occurred in the
> context of a Thanksgiving weekend visit to my mother's place.  
> 
> I live in Daytona Beach, Florida and my mother was living in Palm Coast, a
> short distance up the road at the time.  That is where the church referenced
> here is located.  We are both involved with First Christiabn Church in
> Daytona Beach now.  
> 
> Early on this day Mom and I got ready for our day at St. Thomas Episcopal
> Church where she was participating as a member.  While getting ready we
> discussed more issues of the day that were in the news.  
> 
> We arrived at church for choir practice just before 8 a. m. and the middle
> service where she participated began around 9 and ran until just before
> 10:30.  Then we went to the parish hall for snacks and waited for the last
> service to end so we could meet the Cub Scout den to whom I made my
> presentation.  
> 
> That program began shortly after noon and I showed my iPhone and lap top
> with their speech capabilities and my white cane.  I discussed pedestrian
> safety and sighted guide technique.  I answered a number of questions the
> scouts had about things such as how I handle paper money and shopping.  A
> large portion of the program was taken up with the scouts participating in
> sighted guide drills with me.  The program ran longer than I expected but it
> was good to take the time needed to help them reach their goal of learning
> more about people with disabilities.  I noted to them how I had been a Cub
> Scout at about their age.  It wasn't until around 1 p. m. that we finally
> left the church.  
> 
> There's the journal entry as adapted.  I will add the Cub Scouts were doing
> this program to earn a merit badge regarding people with disabilities.  
> 
> I hope this will serve as an inspiriation to you and others as we advocate
> and educate.  
> 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
> Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 11:29 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: Sarah Blake LaRose
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Sharing blindness skills at church
> 
> Ericka, this is great! I will look forward to reading this!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sarah Blake LaRose, M.Div., accessible instruction in biblical languages
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 9:47 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: Ericka
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Sharing blindness skills at church
> 
> Sunday we were teaching the children in Sunday school about the parable of
> the Mustardseed and how you have to believe in things you cannot see. Being
> new to the church, I decided that I would talk to my teacher I teach with
> Dusty if I could talk about trusting my keen and Blind the skills. It worked
> out wonderfully! Unfortunately we have very few children in Sunday school
> but I had great questions from kids three years to nine years. I told him to
> go and tell their parents and their teachers and Grandparents and anyone
> else that it was OK to ask us questions and to not be afraid of us. My
> co-teacher sent me some pictures however sharing them here wouldn't be of
> much use to most of you. But it really went great. My boyfriend and I are
> going to do a meet and greet/question and answer. One Sunday after the
> service during coffee time. We tried to get it scheduled during meet the
> blind month but it didn't work. Any day is a good day to meet a blind person
> in my opinion, so we have it scheduled for November. :-) Will share how it
> goes and we're still planning to have it taped on Chad's phone so we can
> share it with everybody. It will go on the church website as well. :-)
> 
> Ericka Short
> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508
> Madison. WI. 53704
> 608-665-3170
> 
> from my iPhone 6s
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> A discussion of the doctrines they teach would not be helpful or 
>> edifying to those on this list.  No one here is under the teachings of 
>> these men as far as I know, and the discussion would have nothing to do
> with blindness.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Paul Smith via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 12:33:07 -0400
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Connecting With Other People of Different 
>> Expressionsof Faith
>> 
>> Hello list members.  First I agree that we should not put down people 
>> of another branch of Christianity or even of another religion simply 
>> because we don't like their viewpoints, doctrinally or otherwise.
>> 
>> Having said that, a number of years ago I was a member of a church 
>> which loosely followed the teachings of the Armstrongs, Herbert and 
>> Garner Ted.  I also followed the teachings of Arnold and Dennis Murray 
>> from Shepherd's Chapel of Gravette, Arkansas.  Do any of you follow 
>> their teachings? Since this can be somewhat controversial in tone, 
>> please reply to me off list at paulsmith at samobile.net.
>> Of course, if you would want me to discuss this doctrine further on 
>> this list, I can do so, but I don't want to upset the applecart, so to 
>> speak.  However one responds, thanks for doing this.  Paul
>> 
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