[Faith-talk] Ridiculous!

Sat May 20 01:47:28 UTC 2017

We are all reading the same Bible.  Gospels were written by different people for different crowds. We can't all read things the same way. Everyone needs to hear the story in their own "language"so to speak like when the Tower of Babel fell. I speak somewhat vague here but like what is written here by posters is all interpreted differently by  each person. From my experience every time I read the same Bible, same passage I get a different understanding than I did before. God speaks to me through his word what he wants me to know. If we could read it like Moby Dick and understand it through the first time around why would we want to keep reading it again and again? Why would it be wrong to be in a worship service where there was no scripture read, no Sunday school to reinforce what was read and preached about. Why would worship matter at all if you could just read it once literally and understand it? The Bible isn't a static thing is the living word correct? Does that mean that it not only helps us live but continuously renews us by reading it? Jesus is called the living word, and we call our Bible the word. Unlike other books I read passages come to life for me and help me live my life because I can put myself into them. It is comfort to know that someone in the past had the same struggle. yes it also stands me that we continue to struggle the same struggle. But I think it is very important to know the culture from when the Bible was written. Look at how many translations are out there. Lots of  churches use the message Version. If we really want to get real we should all be reading our Bibles in Greek and Hebrew not English. Everyone is reading and interpreted book whether you think you're reading it literally or not. God was writing these messages to his people at that time when they needed to hear it. God inspired, God breathed whatever you want to say it was still mortal man that wrote those books, and  who chose which books that were written became a part of the Bible or not. Even the Catholic Bible which is probably one of the "older" put together Bibles has gone through revisions since it's first hand written copy.

Personally I'm very grateful for Martin Luther who made sure that common folk like us could read the Bible for ourselves. And I'm thankful for others at that same time who brought The living breathing word to us. Otherwise only priests and pastors still would be reading it to all christians.

Ericka Short
from my iPhone 6+

> On May 19, 2017, at 3:53 PM, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> The Bible is the only truth, and the whole truth! If you believe something that is not in the Bible, it is not of God. That is all there is to it. To be Christian, you must believe that the Bible is the only truth and the only words of God you will only hear.
> David Moore
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> From: Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:11 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: Jenny Keller
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
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> This will probably make people mad. But, this is been blown way out of proportion. Do you like no one has said anything about my face which is fine with me. Because most people don't understand it anyway correctly. But, we are all entitled to what we believe. And, no one is going anyone her saying that they can or cannot serve as a minister. So, what's the deal?
> 
> Sometimes the list and this conversation situation especially this kind of conversation can be just as impressive as the churches that we are talking about. Anyway, just my opinion. Nothing more. Your sister in Christ
> 
> 
> Jenny
> 
>> On May 19, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Rob Kaiser via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Erica. 
>> 
>> Rob Kaiser
>> Email;
>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ericka
>> via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:13 AM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>> 
>> I understood Linda, I was responding to Rob's comment so he understood what
>> kind of a shunning. 
>> 
>> Ericka Short
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>> from my iPhone 6+
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2017, at 9:37 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oops! I thought Rob was misunderstanding what I said about the church 
>>> of which I
>>> 
>>> am a member, even though it was a reply to Melissa and Ericka.  My
>> apologies.  Women can't help such a thing!
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Linda ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Thu, 18 May 2017 21:30:54 -0500
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>>> 
>>> Hi Rob,
>>> 
>>> I never said my church shuns women who can't have children.
>>> Please read the posts carefully so you don't rant and rave about 
>>> falsehoods.
>>> 
>>> Many people nowadays have transportation issues, or can't find a 
>>> church where the Word of God isn't compromised.  The Bible says that 
>>> people will have itching ears, and that's part of it.
>>> Pastors and leaders are preaching false doctrines and watering down 
>>> the Gospel.  For many, the internet has to be their source for worship 
>>> with others, which is really unfortunate.  I hope you can find a 
>>> church where you can be spiritually fed, and where you can get back 
>>> and forth.  More and more, church leaders don't want disabled 
>>> attendees or members.  That's not Biblical, of course, but that 
>>> doesn't matter to them.  Many don't use the Bible much or at all 
>>> anymore.
>>> 
>>> Some of these things are why the National Federation of the Blind in 
>>> Communities of Faith division was formed.  Some can't get 
>>> transportation; some can't get accessiblematerials; some aren't 
>>> allowed to minister because they're blind.  Sometime having the 
>>> advocacy of a national organization is helpful!
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> 
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