[Faith-talk] Ridiculous!

Sat May 20 02:12:42 UTC 2017

Dear Ericka,

I truly appreciate your thought-provoking posts. I'm actually studying a bit
about Martin Luther right now in one of my college classes-so it's
interesting you brought him up.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!

We are all reading the same Bible.  Gospels were written by different people
for different crowds. We can't all read things the same way. Everyone needs
to hear the story in their own "language"so to speak like when the Tower of
Babel fell. I speak somewhat vague here but like what is written here by
posters is all interpreted differently by  each person. From my experience
every time I read the same Bible, same passage I get a different
understanding than I did before. God speaks to me through his word what he
wants me to know. If we could read it like Moby Dick and understand it
through the first time around why would we want to keep reading it again and
again? Why would it be wrong to be in a worship service where there was no
scripture read, no Sunday school to reinforce what was read and preached
about. Why would worship matter at all if you could just read it once
literally and understand it? The Bible isn't a static thing is the living
word correct? Does that mean that it not only helps us live but continuously
renews us by reading it? Jesus is called the living word, and we call our
Bible the word. Unlike other books I read passages come to life for me and
help me live my life because I can put myself into them. It is comfort to
know that someone in the past had the same struggle. yes it also stands me
that we continue to struggle the same struggle. But I think it is very
important to know the culture from when the Bible was written. Look at how
many translations are out there. Lots of  churches use the message Version.
If we really want to get real we should all be reading our Bibles in Greek
and Hebrew not English. Everyone is reading and interpreted book whether you
think you're reading it literally or not. God was writing these messages to
his people at that time when they needed to hear it. God inspired, God
breathed whatever you want to say it was still mortal man that wrote those
books, and  who chose which books that were written became a part of the
Bible or not. Even the Catholic Bible which is probably one of the "older"
put together Bibles has gone through revisions since it's first hand written
copy.

Personally I'm very grateful for Martin Luther who made sure that common
folk like us could read the Bible for ourselves. And I'm thankful for others
at that same time who brought The living breathing word to us. Otherwise
only priests and pastors still would be reading it to all christians.

Ericka Short
from my iPhone 6+

> On May 19, 2017, at 3:53 PM, David Moore via Faith-Talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> The Bible is the only truth, and the whole truth! If you believe something
that is not in the Bible, it is not of God. That is all there is to it. To
be Christian, you must believe that the Bible is the only truth and the only
words of God you will only hear.
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:11 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: Jenny Keller
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
> 
> This will probably make people mad. But, this is been blown way out of
proportion. Do you like no one has said anything about my face which is fine
with me. Because most people don't understand it anyway correctly. But, we
are all entitled to what we believe. And, no one is going anyone her saying
that they can or cannot serve as a minister. So, what's the deal?
> 
> Sometimes the list and this conversation situation especially this 
> kind of conversation can be just as impressive as the churches that we 
> are talking about. Anyway, just my opinion. Nothing more. Your sister 
> in Christ
> 
> 
> Jenny
> 
>> On May 19, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Rob Kaiser via Faith-Talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Erica. 
>> 
>> Rob Kaiser
>> Email;
>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Ericka via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:13 AM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>> 
>> I understood Linda, I was responding to Rob's comment so he 
>> understood what kind of a shunning.
>> 
>> Ericka Short
>> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508
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>> 608-665-3170
>> 
>> from my iPhone 6+
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2017, at 9:37 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oops! I thought Rob was misunderstanding what I said about the 
>>> church of which I
>>> 
>>> am a member, even though it was a reply to Melissa and Ericka.  My
>> apologies.  Women can't help such a thing!
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Linda ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org Date sent: Thu, 18 May 2017 
>>> 21:30:54 -0500
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>>> 
>>> Hi Rob,
>>> 
>>> I never said my church shuns women who can't have children.
>>> Please read the posts carefully so you don't rant and rave about 
>>> falsehoods.
>>> 
>>> Many people nowadays have transportation issues, or can't find a 
>>> church where the Word of God isn't compromised.  The Bible says that 
>>> people will have itching ears, and that's part of it.
>>> Pastors and leaders are preaching false doctrines and watering down 
>>> the Gospel.  For many, the internet has to be their source for 
>>> worship with others, which is really unfortunate.  I hope you can 
>>> find a church where you can be spiritually fed, and where you can 
>>> get back and forth.  More and more, church leaders don't want 
>>> disabled attendees or members.  That's not Biblical, of course, but 
>>> that doesn't matter to them.  Many don't use the Bible much or at 
>>> all anymore.
>>> 
>>> Some of these things are why the National Federation of the Blind in 
>>> Communities of Faith division was formed.  Some can't get 
>>> transportation; some can't get accessiblematerials; some aren't 
>>> allowed to minister because they're blind.  Sometime having the 
>>> advocacy of a national organization is helpful!
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> 
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