[Faith-Talk] South Carolina avenue, Christ in Truth

[Mustafa Almahdy]

Well, blindness doesn't resemble a major element of my life. I am not
used to speak, blindness blindness. Faith is rather a crucial factor
of my life.

On 12/15/19, David Andrews via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> The key words there are faith and blindness -- not just faith.
>
> Dave
>
> At 11:21 PM 12/14/2019, you wrote:
>>Well, David, the threat of removing me for
>>speaking briefly about my religion is not
>>delineated in the list’s major guidelines. On
>>the list’s info page, it says this:
>>“Faith-talk is a list where people can discuss
>>matters related to faith and/or blindness.
>>Persons of all faiths are welcome.† It never
>>conditioned specific subjects not to be
>>discussed as long as they fit in these two main
>>categories, faith, and, blindness. So, don’t
>>threaten me with removing me, just do it if you
>>want to. I simply don’t appreciate such tone,
>>clear? Well again, Jesus said, I am the way to
>>the Father. He also said, I and the Father are
>>one. Both mean the same thing my dear. Did he
>>ever say, I and the Father are the same. Jesus
>>is the only way to the Father, and so, is
>>Muhammad, Moses, David, Solomon, Noah, Abraham,
>>Lot etc etc. They all came to us with the same
>>message, calling people to worship God alone. In
>>Islam, God is providentially Omnipotent. He
>>thence is able to forgive us, without the need
>>to formulate this dramatic scenario. People are
>>not expected to be perfect. They just need to do
>>their best to get morally elicited and to
>>spiritually be elevated, gradually bit by bit
>>until they reach up to the celestial realm. I
>>urge you once again, to make sure that you type
>>the name of prophet Muhammad correctly. You’ve
>>misspelled it twice and I dislike to assume that
>>of being somewhat deliberate. So, based on what
>>Jesus said and did, in the Bible you wholly hold
>>up to, he simply cannot be God. That’s why,
>>Christians constantly demand to methodologically
>>palter as it comes to this critical concern. How
>>could we explain then my dear, Jesus implores to
>>God, on multiple occasions throughout the
>>parables. Well, here are some quotes of that.
>>Hebrews 5:7, “In the days of His flesh, He
>>offered up both prayers and supplications with
>>loud crying and tears to the One able to save
>>Him from death, and He was heard because of His
>>piety.† Three questions here, first, if he is
>>truly divine, why was he praying then? Second,
>>How could he be described as pious if he is
>>divine? Third, if he is divine indeed, why was
>>he yelling for redemption?    Well, here is
>>another quote: “Matthew 14:23, “After He had
>>sent the crowds away, He went up on the mountain
>>by Himself to pray; and when it was evening, He
>>was there alone.† Well, my question here is,
>>does God need to unfeignedly implore in
>>seclusion? Just call it a day folks, it’s
>>either black or white. Jesus cannot be human and
>>divine at the same time. That just cannot be
>>discerned. You will tell me then, well, God can
>>do whatever he wants eh? Well, can he die? Can
>>God die? According to you, yes. But, if he is
>>fully capable of doing anything, why couldn’t
>>he just forgive us? In Islam, when Adam and Eve
>>sinned, God taught them how to repent and they
>>have been forgiven, simple, easy and
>>straightforward. God is all wise and he
>>doesn’t do things that are quite illogical and
>>meaningless. Can God oppress someone? According
>>to your eccentric narrative of the tale, he
>>actuallly has done. When he sacrificed the
>>innocent on the behalf of the guilty. He thence
>>ordains us of maintaining justice. How is that
>>possibly conciliated? As you guys can see, the
>>matter here exacerbates. I genuinely do not
>>destine to provoke or offend anyone here. I just
>>urge people to ponder in the light of what the
>>scripture has actually taught. Lastly, kindly,
>>if I’ll be unsubscribed for whatever motive,
>>just keep me noticed in advanced, thank you. On
>>12/15/19, David Moore via Faith-Talk
>><faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote: > What about
>>Jesus saying in John 14 where Jesus says, > “I
>>am the way, the truth, and the life. No man
>>comes to the Father but by > me! > That sure
>>sounds like Jesus is God himself to me! > What
>>does that mean to you? > How this in Acts
>>chapter 4; > Salvation is found in nobody else,
>>for there is no other name under Heaven, > given
>>to man by which one must be saved! > What does
>>that mean to you? > Next, did Muhamad rise from
>>the dead for you to be your advocate in heaven >
>>between you and the Father? > Do you believe you
>>need to be perfect to enter Heaven! > Scripture
>>says that none of us our perfect. > That is why
>>we need a savior to forgive all of our sins! >
>>We need every sin forgiven, scripture says, to
>>enter heaven! > Islam just does not jive with
>>these scriptures, show me how it does! > David
>>Moore > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >
>>From: Mustafa Almahdy via Faith-Talk > Sent:
>>Saturday, December 14, 2019 7:24 AM > To:
>>debbiedrylie at gmail.com; moore at donaldmoore.org; >
>>dlgoza at jeffersonbaptist.org;
>>erickelly at bellsouth.net;
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>>kbaggett at brainerdbaptist.org;
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>>lee3066 at bellsouth.net > Cc: Mustafa Almahdy >
>>Subject: [Faith-Talk] South Carolina avenue,
>>Christ in Truth > > On each and every Sunday,
>>Christians around the world gather at > Churches
>>to glorify Christ. They consider him deified.
>>Nonetheless, he > never expressed that about
>>himself explicitly. It is immensely > perilous
>>to lay Christians to dig into the Bible
>>themselves because > it's most unlikely that
>>they'll find Jesus enjoining people to worship >
>>him. There are two main set of statements
>>regarding Jesus's > phraseology in the
>>scripture. Explicit and implicit statements.
>>What > is an explicit statement? It is what has
>>been stated plainly, readily > observable,
>>leaving nothing to implication. Such as Jesus
>>saying in > John 3:17:; "Now this is eternal
>>life, that they know you, the only > true God,
>>and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." So here,
>>Jesus > clearly acknowledges divinity and
>>monotheism to the One and true God > and
>>declares himself being sent by Him to convey His
>>message to > people. Then, we have implicit
>>statements, whereas some of them are > allegedly
>>attributed to Jesus or possibly misconstrued by
>>some > apologists for essentially systematic
>>theology motives. Such as Jesus > saying in John
>>10:30; "I and the Father are one". Christian
>>apologists > assert he has meant they are one in
>>entity while the text > presumptively entails
>>they are one in identity. Another instance, >
>>where Jesus explicitly distinguishes between
>>himself and God. Jesus > says in John 8:40; "As
>>it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a >
>>man who has told you the truth that I heard from
>>God." According to > the Bible you wholly hold
>>up to, this was Jesus speaking to the Jews. >
>>This particular passage has three crucial
>>messages to catch. First > off, Jesus declared
>>that Jews attempted to kill him. Thence, I >
>>actually don't fathom the awkward relationship
>>today between those who > allegedly are the
>>followers of Jesus and those who, according to >
>>scripture, were sternly hostile to him. Second,
>>Jesus unambiguously > stated that he is a man
>>who heard the word of God and destined to pass >
>>it through to people. He didn't say I am God in
>>man incarnate or any > of that. So, the
>>personification of the divine in the character
>>of > Jesus is a later developed doctrine called
>>the Hypostatic union. It is > interesting to
>>note, that historically, this particular
>>doctrine has > only been prefaced at the Council
>>of Chalcedon in the year (451). > Consequently,
>>it is demonstratively fallacious to embrace such
>>tenet > as it has been decisively probed to be
>>absolutely mendacious. > Moreover, according to
>>your own version of the Bible, in English, the >
>>description of Jesus's mission precisely befits
>>the definition of > prophethood in Islam. Third,
>>Jesus says he heard the truth from God. > So,
>>what is it? It is the message that he plainly
>>stated in John 3:17 > as quoted above.
>>Furthermore, Jesus spoke the truth as he
>>delivered > the message to a tremendous croud as
>>he uttered a magnanimous speech > known
>>biblically as sermon on the mount. In this major
>>discourse, he > taught the public what is
>>biblically known as the Lord's prayer. If > you
>>Read this, while parallelly citing the opening
>>of the Koran > translated into English, you will
>>discover a gravely unexpected > similarity. I
>>won't be taken aback, because it is yet the same
>>message > of Monotheism. Jesus implored to God.
>>If he was himself God, it would > have been
>>quite irrational of Jesus praying to himself. I
>>urge > pastoral staff and their loyally fellow
>>congregants, to unfeignedly > seek the truth
>>regarding Jesus's solely spoken word in the
>>Gospel. > Trust me, after I read the Bible many
>>times, my faith and conviction > of Islam being
>>the true pathway to the celestial realm has >
>>strengthened leastwise two fold. I do hope that
>>you find this message > to you encouraging not
>>frustrating. It is not my nature to deride or >
>>marginalise someone's belief. Please, read the
>>whole gospel and > earnestly seek to find what
>>Jesus says in it. I do not recognise the > words
>>spoken by Paul or others about Jesus. I only
>>care about what was > directly spoken by Jesus.
>>The essence of this message is quite plain. >
>>Find the truth and stick to it. I wholeheartedly
>>say to you, If I knew > that Christianity is
>>indeed the truth and only path to salvation, I >
>>would have unhesitatingly embraced it. This is
>>not a joke nor it bears > to be. > >
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