[Flagdu] A Response to Matlida Ziegler magazine

Patricia A. Lipovsky plipovsky at cfl.rr.com
Sun May 8 14:55:11 UTC 2011


I too so agree, but we must remember that not all people are doggie  people, 
and although I have been a dog user for approx 40 years now, I respect those 
that choose to use a cane. Having said this, I would expect that same 
respect in return from the cane users.

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From: "alexis collins" <alexiscollins123 at yahoo.com>
To: "Florida Association of Guide Dog Users" <flagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Flagdu] A Response to Matlida Ziegler magazine


dear tim hendel i used a cane for ten years and my guid dog for ten years 
the
first ten years i spent wateing for people to help my find the bathroom 
,doors ,
people, my kids ..... well i dont wate any longer thanks to my gide dog 
upton .
he is a great friend and help to me . I have a cane and use it at times but 
for
my money you cant beat a guid dog . david bearden




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From: Marion Gwizdala <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: NAGDU List <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; FLAGDU List <FLAGDU at NFBNET.ORG>;
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 1:18:03 PM
Subject: [Flagdu] A Response to Matlida Ziegler magazine

Dear All,
Below are comments that appeared in the May 2 issue of the Matilda Ziegler
Magazine and my response.

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala


In response to Feature Writer Alena Roberts - Deciding When to Take Your 
Guide
Dog With You


I would like to express my opinion on the question posed by Alena Roberts;
namely, when to take and when not to take your guide dog. I come at this 
from a
point of view which Alena may not have expected--I am a blind person who has
always used a cane and does not want a guide dog. I have sometimes not
understood why my dog using friends drag their dog along. Here is a scenario
which is difficult for me to understand.


You are taking a cab to a restaurant, maybe by yourself, maybe to meet a 
friend.
You will then take a cab home.


1. You go from the door of your house to the cab.

2. You go from the cab to the door of the restaurant, where the host or a
waiter/waitress helps you find a table.


3. You repeat the process in reverse, restaurant to cab, cab to home.

You are not really doing any independent travel. Why, then, do you need your
dog? It seems to me that it's a lot of trouble and hassle to take a dog on 
such
an occasion, not to mention that the dog may be in the way at the table, or 
in
the cab. Why not use your cane?


I don't even understand why Ms. Roberts says she "dislikes using a cane. A 
cane
is merely a tool, like a hammer or screw driver. I use it when I need it, 
and
I'm glad to have it. I can't even imagine wanting a dog.


Tim Hendel

Huntsville, Alabama

Dear Editor,



I am writing in response to the comments made by Tim Hendel in your
Readers' Forum of May 2. Mr. Hendel seems to contradict himself several 
times,
leading me to believe he has not critically examined his own position. On 
the
one hand, he asserts that blind people, when traveling to a restaurant by 
cab,
are not doing any independent traveling. He supports this position by 
stating
that, once a blind person gets inside the restaurant, the host or waiter 
helps
them find a table. And how does the person get inside the restaurant, if not
independently? Though Mr. Hendel does not specifically state so, am I to 
assume
that the "help" to which he refers might be a sighted guide? Are we to also
assume that, should the blind person wish to use the bathroom while at the
restaurant, this should also be accomplished using sighted guide? 
Furthermore,
when Mr. Hendel takes a cab to the restaurant, does he leave his cane behind
like he contends guide dog users should their dogs? After all, what need has 
he
of a cane, since he is not doing any independent traveling?


Mr. Hendel engages in sanctimonious rhetoric when asserting that the cane is 
a
tool, "like a hammer or a screwdriver. He fails to recognize that the same 
is
true of a guide dog. I wonder if Mr. Hendel drives screws with a hammer and
pounds nails with a screwdriver!

If Mr. Hendel uses his cane when traveling by cab to a restaurant, his 
assertion
that a guide dog user has no need for a guide dog is fallacious! I 
appreciate
his statement that he cannot imagine wanting a dog. Likewise, I cannot 
imagine
not wanting a dog. I have had a dog in my life since I was four years old. 
When
I lost my sight, a guide dog made perfect sense to me! I also use a white 
cane
and travel just as independently as with my dog. It's all a matter of choice
which tool I use. Should I use a claw hammer or a rubber mallet? The choice 
is
based upon which is most effective for the job to be done. I also have a 
sledge
hammer but I only use it when beating others over their heads with
self-righteous indignation!



Marion Gwizdala, President

National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)

National Federation of the Blind

President at NAGDU.ORG

Tampa, Florida




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