[gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws

Tue Nov 4 16:20:46 UTC 2008

Sherri,

I'm going to direct you where to find instructions for setting things up so 
that, with a gmail account, you can go on using Outlook express, even for 
the gmail account. This may not be at all what was discussed below. I've 
given up for the time being trying to learn to manipulate the Google mail 
interface myself, as I was trying to learn just to get a handle on it. I saw 
that my pleas for help must have been poorly expressed and that I wasn't 
making clear just what I was having problems doing. So this won't be related 
to how to use Jaws at the Web mail interface of gmail. It will be how to 
look for a good source of instruction for learning how to set up gmail to 
work with Outlook express so you don't have got bother going to the gmail 
site if you don't want to. Which isn't a perfect solution, as you may set 
things up this way, enjoy the convenience and familiarity, and still wish to 
be able to go to the Web mail site and attend to one thing or another.

I'm not sure if this is more or less what you say a friend helped you set 
up, and you're just wanting to compare details. If so, fine. If what you 
really mean to ask is what they subject says or strongly implies,  I.e. "how 
do you open an email you receive in gmail, right there in the gmail Inbox 
folder?" then I'm not able to be helpful, because I'm still having an 
awkward time with that. Just to make the distinction.\

That said, go to the database called Fred's Head, which is hosted and 
maintained by the American Printing House for the Blind at

http://www.aph.org/fh/index.html#content

and read the introduction so you learn about the service, if you weren't 
already aware of it. Plenty of interesting and helpful stuff there. Then 
find the Search link and, on the page that opens with a search function, 
input the search string

gmail outlook express

in the edit box. this should get you the page where I found very clearly 
written and easy to follow instructions that allowed me to set up what I 
needed to set up so that my gmail account has become just another of the 
accounts I can use to send and receive email directly from good old Outlook 
express.

Hope this helps,
Joel

To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws

Hey Joel,

I'd like the instructions you have, because someone else helped me set up my 
G-mail for Outlook Express. thanks.

Sherri
flmom2006 at gmail.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Steve Decker
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws

Joel,
First of all, you should find some settings in your email client to
leave a copy of your messages on the server.  This way, they won't
disappear from google after you check them.
In basic html view with Jaws, the messages should appear as links.
What version of Jaws are you using?  If for some reason they don't,
just arrow down till you get to the subject, and hit enter.  By the
way, you'll need to press enter on the subject, not the name.  Also,
once you get a message open, there should be q quick reply edit box
there.  If you want more options, you can always use Alt R to take you
to the reply link when in basic html.  You can also press Alt C for
compose etc.  I am currently replying to this message using Gmail's
web interface.
HTH
Steve

On 10/19/08, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Let me begin by emphasizing that I know you can create a gmail account and
> then set it up for POP3 service so that you can use a gmail account only
> with your customary email client, such as Outlook Express. I've already 
> done
> this, and I'll be happy to share the URL for the Fred's Head database page
> where I found the excellent instructions. Just ask.
>
> That said, I still would like to feel able to use my gmail online if I so
> wish. But when I visit my Inbox or another page with messages, like one of
> my many spam pages (pretty good filter, they've got!), I may wish to open 
> a
> message and actually read it. And maybe, in the case of the Inbox and
> legitimate email, reply to it right from there.
>
> So far, so good. But even though I've experimented with toggling the two
> display views back and forth, from the standard more graphical view to the
> basic HTML view (which isn't necessarily any better for a Jaws person, 
> even
> though you might imagine so) and this seems to have no bearing on the 
> issue.
>
> Which is that when I arrow onto a message header, not the sender's name 
> but
> the subject line, Jaws doesn't say that it's a link, the way I've
> experienced with other Web mail setups, so that I can click it open and
> then, on the screen that opens, find the message itself and have a way to
> reply to it, forward it, or delete it before going back to the list from
> which I chose it.
>
> Is this just impossible with Jaws? Should I give up hoping to ever check 
> my
> inbox messages online before they download to my own computer and 
> disappear
> from the Google server (I've set it up that way), or am I missing 
> something.
> I have no trouble finding the many global navigation links on a page like
> that, nor the several button controls that are offered for my use. But 
> what
> if I were actually trying to use my gmail account only on the gmail 
> server?
> How would I open a message?
>
> Thanks to anybody who can help. Remember, I've got it set up for POP3, so
> that is not the answer. I'm not looking for a workaround. I just want to
> know how to manage the messages when they're still on the Web server only.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
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