[gui-talk] Help Needed with Strange JAWS and Word Problem

Sat Dec 3 18:03:11 UTC 2016

Hi, Steve,

I don't know why that would happen, but I do know that when copying from the
Internet and pasting, WE and Jaws do act differently.  Have you tried
pasting as unformatted text?  Good luck; I'd be curious about the solution
you find.

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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Help Needed with Strange JAWS and Word Problem

Jonathan,

Since I am not finding a solution, I will check everything you suggested.
However, where the problem seems to be is that JAWS appears to cause space
to be added at the top of the page.  Without me doing anything except
changing screen readers, the position that is shown for the first line
decreases by a half inch or so and all three sets of data fit on a page when
I switch to NVDA or Window-Eyes.  Margin settings do not seem to change.
Again, I will follow up on your suggestions, though, as this is likely
caused by something that is not obvious.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

From: Jonathan Cohn [mailto:jon.c.cohn at gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Help Needed with Strange JAWS and Word Problem

OK, now I have truly read the issue. When copying / pasting there is an
option to keep source formatting or use document formatting. I wonder if
somehow JAWS is effecting this value. Try looking at the merged in data
alook for font size and type and see if they are different between the
document created using JAWS and the document created using WindowEyes.

You might also look at the style being used on the merged in data and the
area around it. Don't forget that sometimes Word will try to change style
based on keyboard input for example from normal to list item.
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                        Best wishes,

Jonathan

On Dec 2, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Steve Jacobson via gui-talk
<gui-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

Dave,

Thanks for the idea.  I tend to forget about quick settings.  No luck,
though but worth a try.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Help Needed with Strange JAWS and Word Problem

Steve, I don't know the answer to your question. I did see one thing that
you could change, as a test, in quick settings, and see what it does.  Go to
quick settings, when in word, insert-v then down arrow to layout, simple is
the default, screen is the other choice.  I don't know what it will do...
but worth a try.

Dave

At 09:30 PM 12/2/2016, you wrote:

Okay JAWS users, I am having a strange problem that I don't understand.  I
have a document arranged such that there are three sets of data on a page,
each in a large table cell.  This design has to do with how mail merges
work.  Anyway, when I use JAWS, the third set of data goes to a second page.

If I leave Word running and switch to either NVDA or Window-Eyes, all three
sets of data fit on one page.  Also, the position from the top of the page
that is given by JAWS is somewhat higher than the position in inches from
the top given by Window-Eyes.  I tend to trust the Window-Eyes position
because when I change the top margin, the Window-Eyes position reflected the

change while the JAWS position seemed not to.  Therefore, JAWS seems to be
changing a Word setting that also affects page formatting.  Does anyone know

what is happening?

While I am sure I could change something to get this particular document to
work, this document is generated from a mail merge and I am working with
some other documents including mailing labels that have exhibited something
similar.  Therefore, I need to get to the bottom of why the screen reader
being used should affect this.  This is using the Print View and Word 2016
and JAWS 18 but I observed some of this with JAWS 17 and Word 2013 as well.
Any thoughts?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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