[HumanSer] HumanSer Digest, Vol 224, Issue 1
Miranda
knownoflove at gmail.com
Sat May 13 20:50:50 UTC 2023
It’s in my local community. I’m in Virginia. To protect my privacy, I will not disclose my exact location.
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> On May 13, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Michael Beattie via HumanSer <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Where is the free clinic you work at because the clinic nearest my house requires volunteers to already have an LCSW?
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> 1. ECW and JAWS (Miranda)
> 2. ECW and JAWS (Miranda)
> 3. Re: ECW and JAWS (keribcu at gmail.com)
> 4. Re: ECW and JAWS (Miranda)
> 5. Re: ECW and JAWS (keribcu at gmail.com)
> 6. Re: ECW and JAWS (Doug Lee)
> 7. Re: ECW and JAWS (43210 at Bellsouth.net)
> 8. Re: ECW and JAWS (Miranda)
> 9. Re: ECW and JAWS (Miranda)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 08:18:07 -0400
> From: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
> Message-ID: <E7539B25-C5AD-4901-B4D7-851D6A9CF759 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> Hi Everyone,
> I met with the behavioral health Director at my local free clinic yesterday, and we had a very positive discussion about me pursuing hours towards my LCSW there. This clinic provides comprehensive and integrative healthcare services to uninsured and underinsured residence of my community. The EHR they use is ECW. Have any of you had experience with this EHR and its compatibility with JAWS?
> Thanks so much as always, for your time and assistance, and have a wonderful weekend!
>
> Take care, Miranda
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 08:18:07 -0400
> From: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
> Message-ID: <E7539B25-C5AD-4901-B4D7-851D6A9CF759 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I met with the behavioral health Director at my local free clinic yesterday, and we had a very positive discussion about me pursuing hours towards my LCSW there. This clinic provides comprehensive and integrative healthcare services to uninsured and underinsured residence of my community. The EHR they use is ECW. Have any of you had experience with this EHR and its compatibility with JAWS?
> Thanks so much as always, for your time and assistance, and have a wonderful weekend!
>
> Take care, Miranda
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 08:21:59 -0400
> From: <keribcu at gmail.com>
> To: "'Human Services Division Mailing List'" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
> Message-ID: <002d01d984cc$5a0174e0$0e045ea0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Miranda,
>
> One of the HER's in my job is ECW and unfortunately anything made by that company isn't accessible. ? I wasn't able to do anything with it, so anytime I need anything out of ECW one of my co-workers has to get it for me.
>
> Thank you,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HumanSer <humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Miranda via HumanSer
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:18 AM
> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> Subject: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I met with the behavioral health Director at my local free clinic yesterday, and we had a very positive discussion about me pursuing hours towards my LCSW there. This clinic provides comprehensive and integrative healthcare services to uninsured and underinsured residence of my community. The EHR they use is ECW. Have any of you had experience with this EHR and its compatibility with JAWS?
> Thanks so much as always, for your time and assistance, and have a wonderful weekend!
>
> Take care, Miranda
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 08:46:38 -0400
> From: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> To: keribcu at gmail.com
> Cc: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
> Message-ID: <F87A62D5-3E41-482B-82C1-C758783A9779 at gmail.com>
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> Hi,
> Thank you so much for your prompt response. It is frustrating to learn that the system is not accessible. What other accommodations have you put in place with your employer in order to have case notes and other data you collect input into the system?
> Thanks again, and have a wonderful weekend!
>
> Take care, Miranda
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 12, 2023, at 8:22 AM, keribcu at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi Miranda,
>>
>> One of the HER's in my job is ECW and unfortunately anything made by that company isn't accessible. ? I wasn't able to do anything with it, so anytime I need anything out of ECW one of my co-workers has to get it for me.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HumanSer <humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Miranda via HumanSer
>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:18 AM
>> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I met with the behavioral health Director at my local free clinic yesterday, and we had a very positive discussion about me pursuing hours towards my LCSW there. This clinic provides comprehensive and integrative healthcare services to uninsured and underinsured residence of my community. The EHR they use is ECW. Have any of you had experience with this EHR and its compatibility with JAWS?
>> Thanks so much as always, for your time and assistance, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>
>> Take care, Miranda
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 09:51:43 -0400
> From: <keribcu at gmail.com>
> To: "'Miranda'" <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> Cc: "'Human Services Division Mailing List'" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
> Message-ID: <000401d984d8$e318b570$a94a2050$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Miranda,
>
> My teams have limited access to ECW so we only look up info. We input notes in a different system, but that other system isn't accessible, and there is someone that copies my notes from an accessible system to the inaccessible system.
> I did present all the inaccessible feedback to the insurance company that my agency contracts with that uses ECW and they took it to the vender of both these inaccessible systems. The feedback we received is the company has no plans to address the inaccessible software. It is extremely frustrating, but at that point there wasn't much more I could do. My company would have to sue the holding agency of the contract, and they would have to sue the vendor is my understanding of the law. My company won't sue, because they'd lose a major contract.
>
> Thank you,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:47 AM
> To: keribcu at gmail.com
> Cc: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>
> Hi,
> Thank you so much for your prompt response. It is frustrating to learn that the system is not accessible. What other accommodations have you put in place with your employer in order to have case notes and other data you collect input into the system?
> Thanks again, and have a wonderful weekend!
>
> Take care, Miranda
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 12, 2023, at 8:22 AM, keribcu at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi Miranda,
>>
>> One of the HER's in my job is ECW and unfortunately anything made by that company isn't accessible. ? I wasn't able to do anything with it, so anytime I need anything out of ECW one of my co-workers has to get it for me.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HumanSer <humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Miranda via HumanSer
>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:18 AM
>> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I met with the behavioral health Director at my local free clinic yesterday, and we had a very positive discussion about me pursuing hours towards my LCSW there. This clinic provides comprehensive and integrative healthcare services to uninsured and underinsured residence of my community. The EHR they use is ECW. Have any of you had experience with this EHR and its compatibility with JAWS?
>> Thanks so much as always, for your time and assistance, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>
>> Take care, Miranda
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 11:30:24 -0400
> From: Doug Lee <dgl at dlee.org>
> To: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
> Message-ID: <20230512153024.wmzrgemufdmgfe5o at dlee.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Assuming ECW means EClinicalWorks, I'm surprised that it is so inaccessible. Several years ago, I was asked
> to compare a few solutions including EClinicalWorks, and that one came out better than other alternatives
> for accessibility. It has been a few years since I've seen it though; and it is of course possible that your
> ECW is a different package. My memory by now is faint, but I think I remember noting that EClinicalWorks
> looked, for accessibility, like a work in progress but that I thought it looked like it would also get
> better. I could be wrong on this memory, as many analyses of software as I've done since.
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 09:51:43AM -0400, keri via HumanSer wrote:
> Hi Miranda,
>
> My teams have limited access to ECW so we only look up info. We input notes in a different system, but that other system isn't accessible, and there is someone that copies my notes from an accessible system to the inaccessible system.
> I did present all the inaccessible feedback to the insurance company that my agency contracts with that uses ECW and they took it to the vender of both these inaccessible systems. The feedback we received is the company has no plans to address the inaccessible software. It is extremely frustrating, but at that point there wasn't much more I could do. My company would have to sue the holding agency of the contract, and they would have to sue the vendor is my understanding of the law. My company won't sue, because they'd lose a major contract.
>
> Thank you,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:47 AM
> To: keribcu at gmail.com
> Cc: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>
> Hi,
> Thank you so much for your prompt response. It is frustrating to learn that the system is not accessible. What other accommodations have you put in place with your employer in order to have case notes and other data you collect input into the system?
> Thanks again, and have a wonderful weekend!
>
> Take care, Miranda
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 12, 2023, at 8:22 AM, keribcu at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi Miranda,
>>
>> One of the HER's in my job is ECW and unfortunately anything made by that company isn't accessible. ? I wasn't able to do anything with it, so anytime I need anything out of ECW one of my co-workers has to get it for me.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HumanSer <humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Miranda via HumanSer
>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:18 AM
>> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I met with the behavioral health Director at my local free clinic yesterday, and we had a very positive discussion about me pursuing hours towards my LCSW there. This clinic provides comprehensive and integrative healthcare services to uninsured and underinsured residence of my community. The EHR they use is ECW. Have any of you had experience with this EHR and its compatibility with JAWS?
>> Thanks so much as always, for your time and assistance, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>
>> Take care, Miranda
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
> --
> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
> In laughter, love is found; but in tears, it is forged. (12/09/01)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 12:54:47 -0400
> From: <43210 at Bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Human Services Division Mailing List'" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
> Message-ID: <018801d984f2$76d876b0$64896410$@Bellsouth.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello Miranda,
>
> That sounds like a very good place to work. I hope you get in.
>
> Computer- based software is a roadblock for me and many other health
> professionals who cannot access agency electronic records. I have had
> access engineers provided through my state's blind services who can,
> usually, create JAWS overlays that will make your documents fully or mostly
> accessible. I have been in situations where nothing worked, in those
> situations I made templates that approximated those on the electronic
> records, printed them out and asked support staff to send scanned or
> electronic versions into client records.
>
> When we find roadblocks we need to invent ways around them.
>
> Best of luck on this,
> JD
>
>
> "JD" John David Townsend
> Licensed Clinical Social Worker, SW3765
> 386 852-5177
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HumanSer <humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Miranda via
> HumanSer
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:18 AM
> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> Subject: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I met with the behavioral health Director at my local free clinic
> yesterday, and we had a very positive discussion about me pursuing hours
> towards my LCSW there. This clinic provides comprehensive and integrative
> healthcare services to uninsured and underinsured residence of my
> community. The EHR they use is ECW. Have any of you had experience with
> this EHR and its compatibility with JAWS?
> Thanks so much as always, for your time and assistance, and have a
> wonderful weekend!
>
> Take care, Miranda
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 14:25:44 -0400
> From: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> To: 43210 at bellsouth.net
> Cc: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
> Message-ID: <77B9E771-48AE-43A8-9779-E46CB86FA415 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi JD,
> Thank you so much for your response. Unfortunately, my case with VR is closed, because I am successfully employed. I definitely agree with creating external templates as an alternative solution, and will propose this as an accommodation.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 12, 2023, at 12:54 PM, 43210 at bellsouth.net wrote:
>>
>> ?Hello Miranda,
>>
>> That sounds like a very good place to work. I hope you get in.
>>
>> Computer- based software is a roadblock for me and many other health
>> professionals who cannot access agency electronic records. I have had
>> access engineers provided through my state's blind services who can,
>> usually, create JAWS overlays that will make your documents fully or mostly
>> accessible. I have been in situations where nothing worked, in those
>> situations I made templates that approximated those on the electronic
>> records, printed them out and asked support staff to send scanned or
>> electronic versions into client records.
>>
>> When we find roadblocks we need to invent ways around them.
>>
>> Best of luck on this,
>> JD
>>
>>
>> "JD" John David Townsend
>> Licensed Clinical Social Worker, SW3765
>> 386 852-5177
>>
>> Confidentiality Notice:
>> This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the
>> intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
>> information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is
>> prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact me by
>> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HumanSer <humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Miranda via
>> HumanSer
>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:18 AM
>> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I met with the behavioral health Director at my local free clinic
>> yesterday, and we had a very positive discussion about me pursuing hours
>> towards my LCSW there. This clinic provides comprehensive and integrative
>> healthcare services to uninsured and underinsured residence of my
>> community. The EHR they use is ECW. Have any of you had experience with
>> this EHR and its compatibility with JAWS?
>> Thanks so much as always, for your time and assistance, and have a
>> wonderful weekend!
>>
>> Take care, Miranda
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> HumanSer mailing list
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 14:28:33 -0400
> From: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
> To: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Doug Lee <dgl at dlee.org>
> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
> Message-ID: <494BE2EA-53DD-442D-9C6E-2A0600158DB7 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi Doug,
> Thank you so much for sharing your insight. From what I saw online, it looks like this may be the same system, but, like you mentioned, it very well may have been updated, and thus may be less accessible than before. I am definitely curious to see if IT from the clinic is able to permit me to access a sandbox so I can explore the system as well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 12, 2023, at 11:32 AM, Doug Lee via HumanSer <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Assuming ECW means EClinicalWorks, I'm surprised that it is so inaccessible. Several years ago, I was asked
>> to compare a few solutions including EClinicalWorks, and that one came out better than other alternatives
>> for accessibility. It has been a few years since I've seen it though; and it is of course possible that your
>> ECW is a different package. My memory by now is faint, but I think I remember noting that EClinicalWorks
>> looked, for accessibility, like a work in progress but that I thought it looked like it would also get
>> better. I could be wrong on this memory, as many analyses of software as I've done since.
>>
>> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 09:51:43AM -0400, keri via HumanSer wrote:
>> Hi Miranda,
>>
>> My teams have limited access to ECW so we only look up info. We input notes in a different system, but that other system isn't accessible, and there is someone that copies my notes from an accessible system to the inaccessible system.
>> I did present all the inaccessible feedback to the insurance company that my agency contracts with that uses ECW and they took it to the vender of both these inaccessible systems. The feedback we received is the company has no plans to address the inaccessible software. It is extremely frustrating, but at that point there wasn't much more I could do. My company would have to sue the holding agency of the contract, and they would have to sue the vendor is my understanding of the law. My company won't sue, because they'd lose a major contract.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:47 AM
>> To: keribcu at gmail.com
>> Cc: Human Services Division Mailing List <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>>
>> Hi,
>> Thank you so much for your prompt response. It is frustrating to learn that the system is not accessible. What other accommodations have you put in place with your employer in order to have case notes and other data you collect input into the system?
>> Thanks again, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>
>> Take care, Miranda
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On May 12, 2023, at 8:22 AM, keribcu at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Hi Miranda,
>>>
>>> One of the HER's in my job is ECW and unfortunately anything made by that company isn't accessible. ? I wasn't able to do anything with it, so anytime I need anything out of ECW one of my co-workers has to get it for me.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HumanSer <humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Miranda via HumanSer
>>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 8:18 AM
>>> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [HumanSer] ECW and JAWS
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> I met with the behavioral health Director at my local free clinic yesterday, and we had a very positive discussion about me pursuing hours towards my LCSW there. This clinic provides comprehensive and integrative healthcare services to uninsured and underinsured residence of my community. The EHR they use is ECW. Have any of you had experience with this EHR and its compatibility with JAWS?
>>> Thanks so much as always, for your time and assistance, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>
>>> Take care, Miranda
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> --
>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
>> In laughter, love is found; but in tears, it is forged. (12/09/01)
>>
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