[MusicTlk] XML format

Tue May 22 22:15:32 UTC 2018

So basically, there is no way to convert a printed sheet of music into Braille music?

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From: MusicTlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ned O'Brien via MusicTlk
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Cc: Ned O'Brien
Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] XML format

Thank you very much for the comprehensive answer for pdf to xml conversion.
There are a number of  programs that say they can do this but when pushed on that, they can't.  Having played the orgaqn soley by sight reading, now that I have lost most vision I need an alternative. It is a shame no converison is possibe, because I have hundreds of pages of music. But I guess that's what happens when one is never taught to memorize. I am currently trying to re learn to play.
thanks for the response
ned

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:15 AM, BillList1 via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org
> wrote:

> Right, the Lime notation editor software that is a key component of 
> the GoodFeel suite from Dancing Dots can import MusicXML files thereby 
> making them immediately accessible for speech, braille, and magnification users.
> But something has to convert the original pdf to MusicXML format.  
> Lime cannot open or import PDF documents.
>
> One promising application is PDFToMusic Pro.  Sometimes, it does a 
> great job but sometimes it does not.
> http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/pdftomusicpro.htm
>
> Some pdf documents are printed from a music notation program like 
> Finale or Sibelius.  Ideally, instead of printing to pdf, the creator 
> of those scores could export to MusicXML instead.  That is, Finale, 
> Sibelius and over one-hundred other notation programs can now export 
> to MusicXML format directly.  MusicXML export has become a standard 
> feature.  Users of Sibelius and Finale can also download and install 
> the free Dolet plug-in for exporting MusicXML.  We have found that, in 
> many cases, Dolet creates more detailed MusicXML scores.
> https://www.musicxml.com/
>
> SharpEye Music Reader, the music OCR program that is a component of 
> the suites of accessible music notation we supply, cannot read pdf 
> format directly.  Users must first convert pdf to the tiff image 
> format.  There are some free and paid tools to make that conversion.  
> The Tiff Image Printer from Peernet.com works very well.
>
> The music scanning applications for Finale and Sibelius, SmartScore 
> and PhotoScore respectively, both can read and scan pdf documents directly.
> But, as with any OCR process, scanning errors are inevitable.  We 
> blind musicians will need a sighted assistant who can refer to the 
> original score and make necessary corrections for us before the any 
> resulting MusicXML can be of use to us.
>
> In the best of all possible worlds, publishers would make the MusicXML 
> version of their scores available to those of us who need to access 
> that information in an alternative format.  Those kinds of 
> arrangements are already happening on an informal basis.  That is, a 
> good number of our customers already have successfully persuaded some 
> publishers to supply them with MusicXML versions of pdf or hardcopy 
> scores for which they have already paid.
>
> Bill McCann
> Dancing Dots
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MusicTlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jessica Raichle via MusicTlk
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:30 PM
> To: Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians
> Cc: Jessica Raichle
> Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] XML format
>
> You can’t convert a PDF to XML in line or could feel.
>
> Jessica
>
> > On May 20, 2018, at 8:10 AM, Chris Nusbaum via MusicTlk <
> musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > I believe this conversion can be done in either Goodfeel. If you 
> > have
> the scanned copy, import it into Lime and it will convert to XML or 
> any other format it supports.
> >
> > Chris Nusbaum
> >
> >> On May 19, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Ned O'Brien via MusicTlk <
> musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Can someone explain method to get sheet music into xml format? From
> what I
> >> found so far, is that you cannot convert a scanned piece saved in 
> >> pdf to xml. I would like to use the programs that can read xm. 
> >> sheet music, but can't figure out how to get there thx ned 
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