[MusicTlk] XML format

Wed May 23 04:20:32 UTC 2018

I don’t know if you know or have learned any braille music yet, but NLS has tons of Oregon music in braille…

Jessica

> On May 22, 2018, at 4:15 PM, jovian3 via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> So basically, there is no way to convert a printed sheet of music into Braille music?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MusicTlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ned O'Brien via MusicTlk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:26 PM
> To: Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians
> Cc: Ned O'Brien
> Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] XML format
> 
> Thank you very much for the comprehensive answer for pdf to xml conversion.
> There are a number of  programs that say they can do this but when pushed on that, they can't.  Having played the orgaqn soley by sight reading, now that I have lost most vision I need an alternative. It is a shame no converison is possibe, because I have hundreds of pages of music. But I guess that's what happens when one is never taught to memorize. I am currently trying to re learn to play.
> thanks for the response
> ned
> 
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:15 AM, BillList1 via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
> 
>> Right, the Lime notation editor software that is a key component of 
>> the GoodFeel suite from Dancing Dots can import MusicXML files thereby 
>> making them immediately accessible for speech, braille, and magnification users.
>> But something has to convert the original pdf to MusicXML format.  
>> Lime cannot open or import PDF documents.
>> 
>> One promising application is PDFToMusic Pro.  Sometimes, it does a 
>> great job but sometimes it does not.
>> http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/pdftomusicpro.htm
>> 
>> Some pdf documents are printed from a music notation program like 
>> Finale or Sibelius.  Ideally, instead of printing to pdf, the creator 
>> of those scores could export to MusicXML instead.  That is, Finale, 
>> Sibelius and over one-hundred other notation programs can now export 
>> to MusicXML format directly.  MusicXML export has become a standard 
>> feature.  Users of Sibelius and Finale can also download and install 
>> the free Dolet plug-in for exporting MusicXML.  We have found that, in 
>> many cases, Dolet creates more detailed MusicXML scores.
>> https://www.musicxml.com/
>> 
>> SharpEye Music Reader, the music OCR program that is a component of 
>> the suites of accessible music notation we supply, cannot read pdf 
>> format directly.  Users must first convert pdf to the tiff image 
>> format.  There are some free and paid tools to make that conversion.  
>> The Tiff Image Printer from Peernet.com works very well.
>> 
>> The music scanning applications for Finale and Sibelius, SmartScore 
>> and PhotoScore respectively, both can read and scan pdf documents directly.
>> But, as with any OCR process, scanning errors are inevitable.  We 
>> blind musicians will need a sighted assistant who can refer to the 
>> original score and make necessary corrections for us before the any 
>> resulting MusicXML can be of use to us.
>> 
>> In the best of all possible worlds, publishers would make the MusicXML 
>> version of their scores available to those of us who need to access 
>> that information in an alternative format.  Those kinds of 
>> arrangements are already happening on an informal basis.  That is, a 
>> good number of our customers already have successfully persuaded some 
>> publishers to supply them with MusicXML versions of pdf or hardcopy 
>> scores for which they have already paid.
>> 
>> Bill McCann
>> Dancing Dots
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MusicTlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Jessica Raichle via MusicTlk
>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:30 PM
>> To: Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians
>> Cc: Jessica Raichle
>> Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] XML format
>> 
>> You can’t convert a PDF to XML in line or could feel.
>> 
>> Jessica
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2018, at 8:10 AM, Chris Nusbaum via MusicTlk <
>> musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I believe this conversion can be done in either Goodfeel. If you 
>>> have
>> the scanned copy, import it into Lime and it will convert to XML or 
>> any other format it supports.
>>> 
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>> 
>>>> On May 19, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Ned O'Brien via MusicTlk <
>> musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can someone explain method to get sheet music into xml format? From
>> what I
>>>> found so far, is that you cannot convert a scanned piece saved in 
>>>> pdf to xml. I would like to use the programs that can read xm. 
>>>> sheet music, but can't figure out how to get there thx ned 
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