[MusicTlk] XML format

Wed May 23 11:29:19 UTC 2018

I have beeb taking braille lessons for a while now, hoping to ger
proficient enough to read braille music but got to get the basics down
first, and I gotta say it aint easy to teach an old dog new tricks.
ned

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Jessica Raichle via MusicTlk <
musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I don’t know if you know or have learned any braille music yet, but NLS
> has tons of Oregon music in braille…
>
> Jessica
>
> > On May 22, 2018, at 4:15 PM, jovian3 via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > So basically, there is no way to convert a printed sheet of music into
> Braille music?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MusicTlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ned
> O'Brien via MusicTlk
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:26 PM
> > To: Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians
> > Cc: Ned O'Brien
> > Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] XML format
> >
> > Thank you very much for the comprehensive answer for pdf to xml
> conversion.
> > There are a number of  programs that say they can do this but when
> pushed on that, they can't.  Having played the orgaqn soley by sight
> reading, now that I have lost most vision I need an alternative. It is a
> shame no converison is possibe, because I have hundreds of pages of music.
> But I guess that's what happens when one is never taught to memorize. I am
> currently trying to re learn to play.
> > thanks for the response
> > ned
> >
> > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:15 AM, BillList1 via MusicTlk <
> musictlk at nfbnet.org
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Right, the Lime notation editor software that is a key component of
> >> the GoodFeel suite from Dancing Dots can import MusicXML files thereby
> >> making them immediately accessible for speech, braille, and
> magnification users.
> >> But something has to convert the original pdf to MusicXML format.
> >> Lime cannot open or import PDF documents.
> >>
> >> One promising application is PDFToMusic Pro.  Sometimes, it does a
> >> great job but sometimes it does not.
> >> http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/pdftomusicpro.htm
> >>
> >> Some pdf documents are printed from a music notation program like
> >> Finale or Sibelius.  Ideally, instead of printing to pdf, the creator
> >> of those scores could export to MusicXML instead.  That is, Finale,
> >> Sibelius and over one-hundred other notation programs can now export
> >> to MusicXML format directly.  MusicXML export has become a standard
> >> feature.  Users of Sibelius and Finale can also download and install
> >> the free Dolet plug-in for exporting MusicXML.  We have found that, in
> >> many cases, Dolet creates more detailed MusicXML scores.
> >> https://www.musicxml.com/
> >>
> >> SharpEye Music Reader, the music OCR program that is a component of
> >> the suites of accessible music notation we supply, cannot read pdf
> >> format directly.  Users must first convert pdf to the tiff image
> >> format.  There are some free and paid tools to make that conversion.
> >> The Tiff Image Printer from Peernet.com works very well.
> >>
> >> The music scanning applications for Finale and Sibelius, SmartScore
> >> and PhotoScore respectively, both can read and scan pdf documents
> directly.
> >> But, as with any OCR process, scanning errors are inevitable.  We
> >> blind musicians will need a sighted assistant who can refer to the
> >> original score and make necessary corrections for us before the any
> >> resulting MusicXML can be of use to us.
> >>
> >> In the best of all possible worlds, publishers would make the MusicXML
> >> version of their scores available to those of us who need to access
> >> that information in an alternative format.  Those kinds of
> >> arrangements are already happening on an informal basis.  That is, a
> >> good number of our customers already have successfully persuaded some
> >> publishers to supply them with MusicXML versions of pdf or hardcopy
> >> scores for which they have already paid.
> >>
> >> Bill McCann
> >> Dancing Dots
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: MusicTlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Jessica Raichle via MusicTlk
> >> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:30 PM
> >> To: Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians
> >> Cc: Jessica Raichle
> >> Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] XML format
> >>
> >> You can’t convert a PDF to XML in line or could feel.
> >>
> >> Jessica
> >>
> >>> On May 20, 2018, at 8:10 AM, Chris Nusbaum via MusicTlk <
> >> musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I believe this conversion can be done in either Goodfeel. If you
> >>> have
> >> the scanned copy, import it into Lime and it will convert to XML or
> >> any other format it supports.
> >>>
> >>> Chris Nusbaum
> >>>
> >>>> On May 19, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Ned O'Brien via MusicTlk <
> >> musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Can someone explain method to get sheet music into xml format? From
> >> what I
> >>>> found so far, is that you cannot convert a scanned piece saved in
> >>>> pdf to xml. I would like to use the programs that can read xm.
> >>>> sheet music, but can't figure out how to get there thx ned
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