[nabentre] mlm is really a great thing

[Jennifer Aberdeen]

Hi Laura,

Amway Global is also known as Quixtar. I also am a distributor of theirs, as 
well as an Avon Rep.

Jen


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tribble" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nabentre] mlm is really a great thing


>I am one who has always shied away from MLM after watching my mom blow a 
>lot
> of time, effort and money on several of them when we were growing up. (My
> dad died when we were young and she worked a lot of jobs to support us, so
> it was a big deal when she joined a new mlm.)
> However, for some companies it is actually profitable to sign up as a
> distributor and pay the requisite dues just to get good prices on the
> products, assuming you use them. Mom for example has been a longtime
> distributor of Amway products, and uses their laundry soaps and other
> products that have proven to be quite a lot better than similar commercial
> products. Other Amway skin care products are also good for gifts. But she
> never bothers to do the sales.
> Online I think Amway is known by a different name -- it escapes me at the
> moment -- something like Trixar
>
> But in general I think MLM's are for people that know what they want and
> have a good understanding how the MLM works so they don't end up at the
> short end of the stick.
> Good luck whatever your business is.
> --le
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabentre] mlm is really a great thing
>
>
> James,
>
> Let me say I am truly sorry for misinterpreting what you ment.  And to be
> fair, I should have taken my arguments with Brian off this list and in to
> exchanges between the two of us.  I let the past relationship get in the 
> way
> of what for the rest of us could have been a great discussion.  And you 
> are
> correct in saying that the very easy come back was not necissary.
>
> MLM is not for everyone.  And even if it is, dealing with cutting edge
> nutritional products, and environmentally friendly products might not be
> your cup of tea.  You may have an entirely different area of interests. 
> And
> that's great.  And there is also nothing wrong with looking at starting 
> your
> own business, and then deciding that it is not for you.
>
> Whatever it is you are looking for, I hope you find it.  And may what ever
> it is that brings you happiness richly reward you.
>
>
> Loren Wakefield
>
> "The best way to predict your future is to create it."  Dr. Forrest C.
> Shaklee
>
> www.shaklee.net/ultimatehealthwithtlc
>
> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Homme, James" <james.homme at highmark.com>
> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabentre] mlm is really a great thing
>
>
>> Hi Loren,
>> I guess I didn't do a good job of saying what I was trying to say. Let me
>> try again. I felt that you were a little over the top when you said
>> thingsthat attacked Brian personally such as saying that his initials
>> spelled BS. That gave me a bad impression of you and I don't know you. I
>> didn't feel that it was necessary for you to do that, especially since 
>> you
>> were trying to promote what you feel is a good thing. That repelled me
>> from listening to your argument for the benefits of MLM. Then, right
>> behind that, there's the natural tendency for all humans to generalize 
>> and
>> say "Man, if this guy is like that, maybe all of those people are like
>> that," which I recognized and resisted, but I said that I would join
>> someone elses team if I decide to do this MLM thing, because I wanted to
>> deal with a person who isn't so defensive. If I would continue to
>> investigate and find that this sort of thing is for me, then you may have
>> just lost a potential customer or team member by being less gracious than
>> you could have been.
>>
>> The stuff you said below makes me feel good about you, though. You say
>> that you want to help people, and I feel that that's wonderful. I just 
>> got
>> a bad impression of you from your former tone. I was thinking that you
>> needed to have a thicker skin is all.
>>
>> I hope that was somewhat more clear and that you are not offended by what
>> I say here.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> J
>> im
>>
>> ----------
>> Jim Homme
>> Usability Services
>> 412-544-1810
>> james.homme at highmark.com
>>
>> "You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim Homme
>> Sr.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Loren Wakefield
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:54 PM
>> To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] mlm is really a great thing
>>
>> James,
>>
>> I'm not sure how to respond to your comments either.  From what I have
>> read
>> from other posts on this list, Liz is a very inteligent individual.
>> However, none of us know it all.  We are all ignorant of many things.
>> Ignorance hurts humanity.  Look what ignorance of the abilities of the
>> blind
>> have done to those of us who are blind.  Wishing that you, Liz Brian, or
>> anyone else realizes their full potential and finds what ever it is she 
>> or
>> she wants does not make me a bad person.  When you label something a 
>> scam,
>> you make a very serious charge.  And I have found that when a person 
>> makes
>> the statement that mlm is a scam, he or she has confused it with a 
>> pyramid
>> or other illegal schemes.  I could sign up the netire world in my Shaklee
>> group.  However, until someone buys a product, nobody even myself is 
>> going
>> to make a cent.  Ignorance hurts.  Their remarks hurt me.  They hurt my
>> family.  And whether it is realized or not, it hurts the maker of the
>> remarks.  Being a distributor of any mlm products may not be for you. 
>> You
>> still can benefit from what is out there.  The choice of whether or not
>> you
>> do that is up to you.  But when I hear that a blind individual has lost
>> his
>> or her job, it bugs me.  When I hear that a blind person is denied a job
>> just because he or she is blind, it really makes me angry.  When I hear
>> that
>> someone has health issues, and I know what I can share with him or her 
>> can
>> bring a chance at a better life, then I have to say something.  And when
>> someone, without knowing what things are really about, makes false
>> charges,
>> I must respond.  Maybe standing up for what I believe offends you.  If it
>> does, I'm sorry.  Someone earlier told me that I am wasting my time. 
>> That
>> is probably true.  However, there is something inside of me that will not
>> let me give up on people.
>>
>> Loren Wakefield
>>
>> "The best way to predict your future is to create it."  Dr. Forrest C.
>> Shaklee
>>
>> www.shaklee.net/ultimatehealthwithtlc
>>
>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Homme, James" <james.homme at highmark.com>
>> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] mlm is really a great thing
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> MLM aside, I hope you are not what your noxious emails make you appear.
>>> J
>>> im
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> Jim Homme
>>> Usability Services
>>> 412-544-1810
>>> james.homme at highmark.com
>>>
>>> "You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim 
>>> Homme
>>> Sr.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Loren Wakefield
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:41 AM
>>> To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] mlm is really a great thing
>>>
>>> Since ignorance can be cured, I suggest you cure yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Loren Wakefield
>>>
>>> "The best way to predict your future is to create it."  Dr. Forrest C.
>>> Shaklee
>>>
>>> www.shaklee.net/ultimatehealthwithtlc
>>>
>>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Liz C. Daniels" <lizworks at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] mlm is really a great thing
>>>
>>>
>>>> MLM=BS=SCAM...
>>>>
>>>> However, MLM is not synonymous with franchising, they're two different
>>>> animals, so to speak, and quite literally, LOL!
>>>>
>>>> L/P
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:10 PM
>>>> Subject: [nabentre] mlm is really a great thing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>A recent post on this list referred to mlm as "BS".  This is 
>>>>>interesting
>>>>>on
>>>>>two counts.  The first is that the person uttering this also has those
>>>>>same
>>>>>initials, "BS".  I honestly doubt he was referring to his own initials,
>>>>>rather what is put out of a beef producing animal.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are all entitled to our own opinions, and what works for one, does
>>>>> not
>>>>> necessarily work for someone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> MLM goes by several names.  But the long and short of it is to sell
>>>>> products to others like other businesses do.  You also grow and expand
>>>>> your business by bringing others in with you.  MacDonalds does this.
>>>>> KFC
>>>>> does this.  Many different versions of 711 do this as well.  They call
>>>>> their memberships franchise fees.  It can cost you a million or more 
>>>>> to
>>>>> join the golden arches.  And before one can even obtain the rights to 
>>>>> a
>>>>> spot, you must put several hundred thousand down in an escroll acount
>>>>> for
>>>>> many years and hope you get a location.  Then you have all the other
>>>>> cost
>>>>> associated with getting started.  Tnen you must train your employees.
>>>>> Many of these will be young kids who really could not care less about
>>>>> staying with you or whether you make a proffit or not.  And they
>>>>> quickly
>>>>> move on down the road to someone else, and you must train all over
>>>>> again.
>>>>> And corporate takes continual fees and really does not care if you
>>>>> succeed
>>>>> or not, because, there will always be others to take your place.  And
>>>>> yes,
>>>>> people do make a great living at these types of endeavors.
>>>>>
>>>>> In mlm, you have some similarityes and some differences with that 
>>>>> other
>>>>> type of operation.  Most of mlm type companies do sell better quality
>>>>> products than you can get in the open market place.  IE, the quality 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the nutritional and cleaning and personal care products one can obtain
>>>>> from Shaklee, (yes I do represent them, and I am proud to do so), are
>>>>> much
>>>>> superior to those at say your local wal-mart, that one really cannot
>>>>> compare them.  Studies published in peer-reviewed journals can back
>>>>> this
>>>>> statement up.
>>>>>
>>>>> To get started in my company, is under $300.00 and this is not a 
>>>>> month,
>>>>> it
>>>>> is one-time.  As you build your company, you can put some of your
>>>>> earnings
>>>>> back in to the products you yourself wish to use.  Your own use of 
>>>>> your
>>>>> products gives you a continual building of credibility and belief in
>>>>> what
>>>>> you are sharing with others.  As your sells and helping others to get
>>>>> started and succeed grows, your income increases.  And yes, people do
>>>>> make
>>>>> great livings at companies like these as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe where most people get confused is the lack of understanding
>>>>> about mlm being simple, not easy.  Many believe the two are 
>>>>> synonomous.
>>>>> I
>>>>> refer to Shaklee because that is what I know.  And the concept is very
>>>>> simple.  You make money in a few ways.  But Shaklee, or any other mlm,
>>>>> is
>>>>> not a government social program.  Your success is related to your
>>>>> efferts.
>>>>> For me the unmeasurable rewards come when I see a life changed because
>>>>> of
>>>>> what Shaklee and I can offer someone.  Some of the results from our
>>>>> products are simply incredible.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is not one business in the world that can claim that every time
>>>>> someone sets out to do that business that they will prosper and
>>>>> succeed.
>>>>> MLM cannot claim this either.  However, whereas other types do not 
>>>>> want
>>>>> you to succeed, in MLM, you do not succeed, unless you help others
>>>>> obtain
>>>>> what they want.  And if the values of helping others and making life
>>>>> better for your  family are bs, then build me a mansion right in the
>>>>> middle of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Loren Wakefield
>>>>>
>>>>> "The best way to predict your future is to create it."  Dr. Forrest C.
>>>>> Shaklee
>>>>>
>>>>> www.shaklee.net/ultimatehealthwithtlc
>>>>>
>>>>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>>>>
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