[nabentre] FAX to email solution

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Thu Dec 1 16:31:36 UTC 2011


Albert,

I missed some of the early discussion on this so don't know if I am understanding your question 
completely.  As I understood it, the problem was reading PDF's where the pages are "scanned" and 
therefore won't read in the Adobe reader which is also referred to as the Adobe Acrobat Reader.  If 
earlier versions of Adobe Acrobat Reader say the document is empty but one can see pages on the screen, 
Adobe Acrobat Reader X or 10 will still not read those documents.  The paid version of Acrobat, as Jim 
stated, has an option to "recognize" the characters in those documents and make them accessible to a 
screen reader.  While Acrobat does this partly for accessibility, it also does this so people and edit 
PDF documents as well.  Most PDF's do contain actual text and can be read with the Adobe Acrobat Reader 
and the paid version of Acrobat is not needed to read them.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:12:12 -0500, Albert J Rizzi wrote:

>Steve,
>Feel free to comment any time. if it were obvious, at least to me, I would
>not be asking the questions  that I do. I know what I know and what I don't
>know I ask about. Thanks for sharing. Ok how about another ignorant question
>then? would adobe reader be able to read pdf's just as acrobat would? 

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:45 AM
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>Subject: Re: [nabentre] FAX to email solution

>Albert,

>Perhaps this was obvious, but the version of Acrobat X that Jim is referring
>to is the version that can 
>be used to create PDFs and is not free.  As I understand it, though, it does
>what he says it does.  
>Also, both OmniPage and FineReader will do OCR on PDFs, too, but they are
>also not free.  The point of 
>mentioning OmniPage, FineReader, Open Book, or K-1000, is that often people
>own these programs but don't 
>realize they can use them to deal with PDFs that are scanned.  Probably none
>of these are worth buying 
>for only that purpose even though they would work.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:19:59 -0500, Albert J Rizzi wrote:

>>Jim, thanks for that information. I do not yet have jaws 13, and am
>>wrestling with justifying the expense to upgrade from 10. I will
>investigate
>>upgrading my adobe   as well. I will also investigate those links you
>>shared. Thanks so very much.


>>Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>Founder
>>My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>New York, New York  10004
>>www.myblindspot.org
>>PH: 917-553-0347
>>Fax: 212-858-5759
>>"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
>>doing it."


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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of Homme, James
>>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:52 AM
>>To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [nabentre] FAX to email solution

>>Hi Albert,
>>If you are fortunate enough to have JAWS 13, JAWS is supposed to help with
>>the recognition of PDF's that report that they have blank pages, but from
>>the what's new blurb, it looks like a very slow way to do things.

>>If you work in an environment in which you can get a copy of Adobe Acrobat
>>Pro installed, and you can get version X (version 10) the accessibility
>>wizard will ask if you want the program to recognize the pages of images.
>>This is a better solution, because it recognizes the whole document all at
>>once.

>>Also, I believe that OpenBook and Kurzweil scanning software can deal with
>>PDF's that have images of text rather than real text.

>>There's also a free solution called PDF2OCR from
>>http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/pdf2ocr.zip. 

>>And I just typed in a Google search. I can't tell you how good any of the
>>solutions are, but you can see what you might want to try here.
>>http://www.google.com/search?q=open+source+ocr+free+ocr

>>Jim



>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of Albert J Rizzi
>>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:22 AM
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>>Subject: Re: [nabentre] FAX to email solution

>>Jim,

>>Can you share how you convert pdf's as I am investigating options on my
>end.
>>to often I am getting a pdf that, when once opened, I am being told it is
>an
>>empty document. would appreciate any insights into best practices or
>>software to help alleviate that issue. Peace.

>>Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>Founder
>>My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>New York, New York  10004
>>www.myblindspot.org
>>PH: 917-553-0347
>>Fax: 212-858-5759
>>"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
>>doing it."


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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of Homme, James
>>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 6:43 AM
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>>Subject: Re: [nabentre] FAX to email solution

>>Hi Brad,
>>Are you all set up for doing conversions to and from PDF?

>>Thanks.

>>Jim

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of Brad Duns
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:08 PM
>>To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [nabentre] FAX to email solution

>>Thanks for the input Ted and all. After
>>consideration, I'm thinking any fax need, which
>>for me is little, a trip to the neighbors or the
>>local convenience store would be fine. I think
>>most cases a pdf file via email  would work.

>>Brad




>>On 11/28/2011  08:10 PM Ted Shelly said...
>>>I've been trying out myfax.com.  It's an excellent service, but somewhat
>>>pricey at $10/month.  I'm not sure I'm going to continue with it.  They do
>>>have a 30-day free trial though, so you could use it as a basis of
>>>comparison.
>>>
>>>I'll be interested to hear if anyone has good experiences with free
>>>services.
>>>
>>>Ted
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>Behalf Of Brad Duns
>>>Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:39 PM
>>>To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [nabentre] FAX to email solution
>>>
>>>Jim,
>>>
>>>We're talking Window 7 64 bit :)
>>>
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>On 11/28/2011  12:50 PM Homme, James said...
>>> >Hi Brad,
>>> >What operating system are we talking here?
>>> >Windows XP, Vista, Win7, bla, bla, bla?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks.
>>> >
>>> >Jim
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> >[mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brad Duns
>>> >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 1:44 PM
>>> >To: NFB Entrepreneur List
>>> >Subject: [nabentre] FAX to email solution
>>> >
>>> >Hi List,
>>> >
>>> > >In looking at ridding my land line, I need to
>>> > >find an amiable solution to the occasional FAX .
>>> > >Do any of you use or know of, a reliable and
>>> > >resonably priced/free service or method to
>>> > >recieve and perhaps send a FAX via email?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Brad Duns
>>> >
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