[nabs-l] FW: [nfbcs] Mac Accessibility

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Mon Jun 1 19:49:30 UTC 2009


Joseph,

I was educated some over the weekend regarding TextEdit.  My assumption was that it was a text editor.  As you have described, it is really more than that with 
documents saved in RTF format and not as plain text.  My daughter did a paper in TextEdit and sent it to me to print as her MAC doesn't access any of our printers 
at this point.  I brought it into Word and printed it without a problem.  It was not complicated, but it had underlining, for example, and that all worked.  Where did you 
dig out the developer information?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:49:19 -0700, T. Joseph Carter wrote:

>For the record, TextEdit does support tables, though the command is 
>buried under the menu and you don't have a shortcut key by default.

>Until I started playing with DEVONthink Pro, I panned TextEdit as a 
>useless tool not even up to the specification of WordPad.  I was 
>wrong, it's exceedingly powerful once you learn how to use it.  Of 
>course, about half of it is undocumented until you start reading the 
>developer information.  *sigh*

>Joseph


>On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 02:47:07AM -0400, Joe Orozco wrote:
>>I'm sharing the response below to any students also interested in making a
>>switch from PC to Mac.
>>
>>Joe Orozco
>>
>>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Mac Accessibility
>>
>>See my responses inline below.
>>
>>
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>>On 28-May-09, at 12:35 AM, Joe Orozco wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Forgive the cross post.  I need information from former PC users who 
>>> are now using the Mac environment as their primary operating system.  
>>> My
>>> questions:
>>>
>>> 1. How steep is the learning curve moving from Mac to PC?
>>>
>>Fairly steep.  Voiceover operates oppositely to JAWS and Window Eyes, but it
>>is nice when you get used to it.
>>>
>>
>>> 2. Is Firefox available to the Mac environment, and are there any 
>>> limitations to the browser in this environment?
>>> No, firefox is currently not accessible on the Mac with Voiceover.
>>
>>> 3. What general limitations have you discovered using Mac moving from 
>>> the PC?
>>>
>>Voiceover is not scriptable, there is no way to tweak the accessibility of
>>an application.  There is no word processor hat supports tables.
>>
>>> 4. Is Voice Over built into the Mac system.  If not, how much is it, 
>>> and where is it found?
>>>
>>Voiceover is built into the Mac operating system and gets updated as you
>>update your operating system.
>>
>>> 5. How often is the screen reader for the Mac OS updated?  How 
>>> comparable is Voice Over to JAWS?  What kind of speech does Voice Over 
>>> use?
>>>
>>Voiceover is updated when the OS is updated, but I'm not sure how many
>>features actually get updated, there is no real list of new features / bug
>>fixes that I have ever found.  In my opinion Voicover sounds nicer than
>>Eloquence, but has a harder time pronouncing words.
>>>
>>
>>> 6. How easy is it to exchange documents between PC and Mac machines?
>>> Very easy via memory stick or e-mail.  You can also setup your Mac to 
>>> dual boot Windows.  Or, you can run Windows in a virtual machine on 
>>> the Mac, essentially running each operating system simultaneously.  On 
>>> a newer Mac there is no significant performance problem running OS X 
>>> and Windows simultaneously.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I hope someone can help me address some or all of these points.   
>>> I've picked
>>> up an organization who insists on using Mac computers.  I would rather 
>>> stick to the PC.  I'm not impressed with JAWS a lot of times, but it's 
>>> what I know.  That said, I have a Mac laptop headed to me, and I 
>>> suppose I had better learn how to adopt to the new environment real 
>>> quick-like.  I would appreciate any and all advice you can provide.
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Joe Orozco
>>>
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