[nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud

Antonio M. Guimaraes iamantonio at cox.net
Fri May 22 00:36:34 UTC 2009


Joseph,

You propose a debate about how the NFB and ACB are different. This will not 
end any feud, but create more divisions.

How about we get the leadership on both camps to agree to disagree on what 
we already know are differences, even structure some sort of debate about 
these issues at some joint venue, and actually get together to accomplish 
something on the issues we do agree upon?

At this point, with at least 86 messages in this thread, I don't know how we 
can go on without creating tentions.

It would not be such a bad idea for the board to talk about this, even 
before handing off the division, so we can develop some policy in the 
matter. That's what the board is here for, and while we can go on and on 
about it on list, I think leadership needs to take the lead from the great 
majority, and ACB NABS willingness to join effort, if not forces.

Most cordially,

Antonio Guimaraes

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud


> Dave,
>
> My offer to begin dialogue by having a thoughtful ACBer and I offer 
> position statements of our own organization on a series of agreed upon 
> issues, to be offered as the most objective comparison of what the two 
> organizations are and believe you'll ever find.
>
> It stems from Sarah's request for an objective comparison, which I do not 
> believe any one person could provide.  Two or more, speaking for their own 
> respective organizations, putting together a single statement for each, 
> could be pretty darned objective when placed side by side for readers to 
> judge strengths and weaknesses of each.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:21:00PM -0500, Dave Wright wrote:
>> Good afternoon all,
>> While I've really enjoyed reading all of these messages about finding a 
>> way to set aside the differences of both organizations in order to find a 
>> common ground on the student level, I'm wondering whether or not if any 
>> of the proponents of this idea have taken an active role of setting up a 
>> meetting involving students of both organizations on a local level. Since 
>> I believe that students should have a choice when it comes to advocacy, I 
>> don't mind that there are more than one organization advocating for the 
>> rights of blind students. I know how easy it is to talk the talk, but 
>> walking the walk and being an active proponent for change is much harder. 
>> While the thought of national change is perhaps an idealistic view, lets 
>> try first dealing with local change. I know this discussion has leaked 
>> over to the ACB listServe and believe both sides have positive feedback 
>> to offer.
>> Just my thoughts.
>
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