[nabs-l] Taking pictures

Tue May 26 05:57:24 UTC 2009

Angela,

Which part are you asking about?

Joseph

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:21:01AM -0700, Angela fowler wrote:
>How would you do that? I've tried to take pictures, and its pretty
>frightening.  
>
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>Of T. Joseph Carter
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>Peter,
>
>I've seen what passes for art produced by at least one totally blind
>photographer.  It was indistinguishable from the type of work of a couple of
>other art photographers whose work was offered as a comparison.  Not a one
>had anything in focus or well-framed.  I mean, I take far better pictures
>than that!  Of course, that's why I'm not considered an "artist", I guess.
>*grin*
>
>That said, I know a couple of other blind photographers whose work comes out
>pretty nicely, and I must use alternative techniques myself when doing
>anything with a camera outside on a sunny day since in that condition I
>literally have no vision either.  About 2/3 of my shots look something like
>I intended--though I sometimes need to tweak the color histogram to get the
>colors to look like they should since I have to depend on a lot of automatic
>settings.
>
>Joseph
>
>
>On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:38:06AM -0500, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>Hello Christopher and listers,
>>
>>    On the surface this is true, but if you would but experament as 
>>we're doing here you might be pleasantly surprised by how much digital 
>>photography and video work we can do nonvisually as I'm now 
>>discovering. Several of the sites I manage contain pictures taken by 
>>blind persons with little to no vision. They found alternative 
>>techniques to use for "Getting that perfect shot" and preparing photos 
>>for a Web Site or other presentation. I personally know some of them 
>>and talked withthemabout their techniques for taking pictures.
>>
>> I have some vision, but more often than not I fall back onaa 
>>mnon-visual method for doing tasks such as manipulating photos to 
>>prepare for the Web and for other presentations. A knowledge of 
>>photographic techniques will allow you to figure out how to do tasks 
>>such as resizing photos and pasting them in to text documents such as 
>>those created with Microsoft Word and Adobe Acrobat. There are some 
>>tasks that will require sighted assistance, but again a thorough 
>>knowledge of photography could help you find work-arounds for them. 
>>Want to avoid pixcelation in photos. Don't enlarge them excessively. No
>vision required.
>>
>>    If we can find ways to take pictures and digitally process them for 
>>display the next logical step would be davveling in to the World of 
>>digital video. On the surface one is lead to think that there's no way 
>>for a blind person to shoot video sequences. I think there's one 
>>Raymond Kurzweil whose all ready working on that problem in relation to the
>Kurzweil NFB Reader.
>>Future versions of the reader will include object recognission and 
>>eventually the ability to describe the location and movements of people 
>>and objects in a particular location.  Perhaps this technology will 
>>eventually find its way in to video cameras to assist sighted 
>>videographers as well as aspiring blind ones.
>>
>>    If we would just think out of the box we might figure out ways 
>>blind people can shoot video until this technology is perfected.
>>
>>    Just as with preparing still photos there are tasks that would be 
>>visual in nature in the digital video World. One that comes to mind 
>>off-hand is being able to sinc audio recordings with video sequences. 
>>For example if you're filming a documentary that shows a whale 
>>breaching you need to be sure the viewer hears the splash when the 
>>whale hits the water and sees it visually. It would be rather amusing 
>>if The splash was heard when the whale is still under water. But 
>>perhaps here too there may be a nonvisual solution. Some of us are 
>>learning how to sinc text documents with audio when creating digital 
>>talking books. This is done by placing markers in the audio files that 
>>correspond with text files of the DAISY document. A similar process is 
>>used to link audio and visual eents in a video. This now leaves us with 
>>just the need to visually verrify that the sincing is correct, and that 
>>the appearance of the video is of a high quality. There's always the good
>old team approach to surmount this obstacle.
>>
>> The moral of the story is that if we imagine ways to do what we wish 
>>to do in life there are ways for a blind person to achieve the 
>>seemingly unachievable and do the seemingly undoable. Okay you aspiring 
>>vlind videographers let's develop the techniques so we can show and 
>>tell them how it's done!
>>
>>Peter Donahue
>
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