[nabs-l] Lions Club

Wed Sep 8 23:08:10 UTC 2010

Seems to me to be perfectly consistent to hold: 1) that an organization 
*spends* its money in ways that tend to benefit blind people, and 2) that 
the same organization *raises* that money in ways that tend to harm blind 
people.  I don't see the contradiction.

Like Jewel, I think that contacting the organization, explaining your 
concerns, and suggesting alternative methods of fundraising that raise money 
in ways that foster camaraderie, not pity, might go a long way.

Best,

Marc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Lions Club

> Anmol,
>
> Your position sounds a little contradicting.  On the one hand you claim 
> the
> Lions Club does a lot of good including: scholarships, conference
> sponsorships and trainings.  On the other hand you claim you cannot get
> behind something that asks for money to support the blind.  So, which is 
> it?
>
> I would argue we could do plenty to educate the Lions Club on what the 
> blind
> can and cannot do.  They are a resource, and for example, could add that
> many more votes to this Pepsi Challenge campaign.  And, if you think of 
> it,
> how would that be different from asking for money outside a Walmart?
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anmol Bhatia
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:25 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Lions Club
>
> Well George I would respectfully disagree that the Lions Club
> has not done much to help the blind. Many Lions have given
> scholarship to blind students, supported many blind individuals
> to attend various conferences and trainings and are the biggest
> funders of the Lions World Services for the Blind in Little
> Rock Arkansas. Some may have negative oppinion and frankly I
> have personally witnessed somethings that LWSB could do better,
> yet its fair to say that LWSB has given opportunities to many
> blind people for independent training and get training for a
> job. So the Lions have done alot of good for the blind. Infact
> they have done more for the blind not being a blind
> organization then any other not blind organization. NFB and ACB
> are blind organizations run by the blind and for the blind so
> yes they have and will do more for the blind then Lions or any
> other organizations. I would join one because of the work they
> do, but I can not support something that
> requires asking for money to help the blind.
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me
> sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it
> is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Wed, 9/8/10, Jorge Paez <jorgeapaez at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Jorge Paez <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Lions Club
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 1:56 PM
>> Anmol:
>> Yes, it bothers me much--though I don't have a Walmart,
>> I've seen that sort of stuff.
>> Not to be harsh,
>> but what has the "Lions Club" ever done for the blind?
>>
>> The NFB has done a noticable much more.
>>
>> Sorry if I'm being critical but I've never seen a blind
>> person talk to me about "how good the Lion Club was."
>>
>> They help, I know, but never the blind, not in my
>> experience.
>>
>>
>> Jorge
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Anmol Bhatia wrote:
>>
>> > Does it bother any of you when the Lions Club sit in
>> frunt of Walmart and ask for money to help the blind? This
>> has been something that has bothering me for a long time and
>> mostly the reason why I have not joined one. Lions do a lot
>> of good for the blind and I have been lucky to speak to a
>> few Lions Clubs, but helping the blind in expense of
>> reinforcing the sterotype that society has about the blind
>> to me does not really helpful to our well being and holds us
>> back in society. Its been something that has been bugging me
>> for years, but I was not sure if it is just me or if there
>> are other blind individuals who feel the same. I finally
>> decide to ask when a friend of mine who has mentioned about
>> joing a organization for the blind said that she going to
>> get involved in the Lions club and sit in frunt of Walmart.
>> It would be interesting to hear what everyone has to think
>> about this.
>> >
>> > Anmol
>> >
>> >
>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>> make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at
>> times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
>> > Hellen Keller
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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