[nabs-l] Winter Weather Travel

Sun Feb 13 20:45:29 UTC 2011

I think we should wear hats.  I see buildings which might help too.
But what I do is cover my ears partway so I can still hear.  Alternatively, 
I cover it all the way and just raise the hat a little when needing to hear 
more information like at a street.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Nimer Jaber
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:06 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Winter Weather Travel

Jewel and all,

know that not wearing a hat has inherent risks, but I have accepted
those risks and find traveling to be a little bit easier when I have
full hearing instead of muffled hearing. This is more fo9r just
crossing streets, as I sometimes need to find a building line, door,
or something else that my hearing would help with. I am not telling
everyone to go out without a hat when it's cold. I was just saying
that that is what I do, and it helps me. If you don't want to do this,
or think that you might harm yourself by doing so, then please don't.
Another alternative to all this is to wear a baseball cap as it will
retain some heat but will leave your ears open to hearing.

Thanks
Nimer J

On 13/02/2011, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
> Jewel,
>
> I am sorry if you got sick because of not wearing a hat, but this is
> something that individuals have to work out for
> themselves.  I routinely don't wear a hat down to close to zero and I have
> never gotten sick in a way I can attribute to
> not wearing a hat.  I am not saying that is necessarily wise, only that
> there just are not hard and fast rules than can be
> broadly applied.  It is also possible to simply remove one's hat when
> crossing a street, for example, to have the best of
> both worlds.  I also have no doubt that some have conditions that require
> that the head be protected well.  What I
> hate to see is blind people being afraid of winter travel and staying home
> without figuring out what can be done.
> There are clearly things we need to be aware of and should discuss, but 
> for
> many of us, winter happens every year
> and we can't afford to let it confine us too much.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:27:29 -0500, Jewel S. wrote:
>
>>Hey guys,
>>I highly disagree with the idea that you shouldn't wear a hat. The
>>risk of a slightly dampened hearing is not nearly as bad as the risk
>>of getting severely sick because your head was bare in below freezing
>>temperatures. I know, I did it, and now I'm sick as a dog!
>
>>Someone mentioned using your cane as balance. An alternative to this,
>>as leaning on the cane can bend it and mess up the swing of the cane,
>>is to get a support cane for in the winter. I have one year-round due
>>to physical issues, but it is even more useful in ice and snow. You
>>can get an inexpensive folding support cane from a discount store like
>>Wal-Mart for around $10. I say folding because then you can put it
>>away when you get inside...if you don't need it, why have it out?
>
>>If your dog accepts booties on h is feet, there are non-skid booties
>>out there that are great for pups. Keeps their feet warm and keeps
>>them from slipping and injuring themselves. Also, if it is *very* cold
>>weather, you might consider getting a dog sweater. Not sure how these
>>work with harnesses, but I would suspect that since the harness is
>>adjustable, you could put it under the harness without too much
>>trouble since most are not very thick but nice and warm.
>
>>Back to cane travel. If the sidewalk is not available but snow has
>>been cleared from the road, tap the curb as you go by. I know, many
>>times snow is piled up on the curb (super unsafe), but often ice and
>>snow stay on sidewalks much longer than on roads and curbs, since
>>people take care of the roads and leave the sidewalks up to the
>>individual home owners.
>
>>If the sidewalk in front of your home is prone to ice, as soon as the
>>snow or sleet is on the ground, go out and mess it up. Shuffle yor
>>foot through it, sweep your cane back and forth, have your kids or
>>neighbour's kids play in it. Rouch snow or ice, when packed down, is
>>much better than smooth snow/ice!
>
>
>
>>On 2/13/11, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Some hats seem to work fine without blocking auditory clues.  Also, some
>>> looser fitting hoodies can break the wind and cover your ears without
>>> hindering auditory clues.
>>>
>>> GregOn Feb 12, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Steve Jacobson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marcia,
>>>>
>>>> Since I have lived in Minnesota all my life, I have gotten pretty used
>>>> to
>>>> winter travel.  It is something one can adjust to over time, but I am
>>>> sure
>>>> it is difficult
>>>> for those in areas that are getting unusual weather.  Still, it can 
>>>> take
>>>> some getting used to.  Whether or not one has other disabilities, it
>>>> doesn't seem
>>>> appropriate to me for anyone to be laughing at whatever misadventures
>>>> you
>>>> might have unless you are also laughing at them, and I gather that you
>>>> were
>>>> not.  However, I also don't believe it is just the super-blind who
>>>> master
>>>> such obstacles, either.  It can take time and work, and such travel 
>>>> will
>>>> always be
>>>> easier for some than for others.  I hope you don't write off the
>>>> possibility that you might be able to overcome some of the winter 
>>>> travel
>>>> challenges as
>>>> something only the superblind can do, and I also hope that you can find
>>>> people who will be supportive.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:15:52 -0500, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great question. Last year I asked this same question, as I am new to
>>>>> the
>>>>> northeast. And the response I got was that it must be something I am
>>>>> doing
>>>>> wrong with my mobility. Because as a NFB person, who has just the best
>>>>> mobility and orientation, I should NEVER get lost, nor never be
>>>>> disorientated, and it does not matter that there was 3 or 4 feet of
>>>>> snow
>>>>> on
>>>>> the ground. I should always be able to find my way. *being very
>>>>> sarcastic
>>>>> here* and that "if" I were getting lost, maybe I should go to a
>>>>> training
>>>>> center, where I could get better skills. My point was I was laughed at
>>>>> because I was getting lost in the snow, the ice, and the high winds. I
>>>>> guess
>>>>> it should not matter, that I have additional disabilities, like a
>>>>> hearing
>>>>> loss, and balance issues. Its my fault, and not the snow. I am sorry
>>>>> guys,
>>>>> it was not my fault all my landmarks were covered up. Now some of you
>>>>> might
>>>>> say, going to a center is important here, but I do not fall into
>>>>> needing
>>>>> to
>>>>> go to a center category. I am NOT a super blind person, nor ever will
>>>>> be.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Great question. But I also find it funny how so many people are so
>>>>> quick
>>>>> to
>>>>> judge others who are blind, for skills or things they can't do so 
>>>>> well.
>>>>> I
>>>>> will be happy to see suggestions and little tips and tricks others 
>>>>> have
>>>>> to
>>>>> say about this.
>>>>
>>>>> This was certainly not directed at anyone. Just sayin. LOL
>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Arielle Silverman
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:51 PM
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Winter Weather Travel
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure many of you are experiencing the effects of our unusually
>>>>> cold and snowy winter this year, which can pose unique challenges for
>>>>> cane and guide dog travel. Have you discovered any tricks you have
>>>>> found helpful for staying oriented while walking in snow, ice, and/or
>>>>> high winds?
>>>>
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>
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>>--
>>~Jewel
>>Check out my blog about accessibility for the blind!
>>Treasure Chest for the Blind: http://blindtreasurechest.blogspot.com
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