[nabs-l] BLIO READER

Tue Jan 11 18:24:31 UTC 2011

Josh,]
aYour best option is to call the company.
Not everyone knows about the blio reader.  I guess not everything is 
accessible because the blind community is a small market and accessibility 
is not thought of when designing products.

There are companies who do scripting for products but they cost money for 
their services.
Maybe you can work out a payment plan with them. In my area SSB bart group 
does scripting.
Having someone pay for it to be scripted such as a lions club would be the 
best option.  Call around and see what your options are.
It bothers me when people think the only solution is turning to voc rehab.
VR is slow and counselors are less likely to give you what you need with 
budget cuts.
So look into it yourself.  Call the company; write letters.

All your messages say "its unfair things are not accessible.  What is taking 
so long." I wonder too; its not fair but there is not too much we can do 
about it.
Things do cost money; so if money is an issue unfortunately your options are 
also limited.

I hope things work out though.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh Kennedy" <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:45 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] BLIO READER

> Hi
>
> So when is the blio reader going to be accessible? Also why are we still 
> paying $1300 for jaws and similar price for window-eyes when NVDA is 
> already scriptable? Guys in order for me not to get a waver for my future 
> microsoft project course I need access to that software. Voc rehab will 
> have to buy window-eyes, supernova or jaws plus pay who knows how much to 
> script it to work with project. So why doesn't the nfb organise and get 
> people with the talent to start writing appModules for NVDA? Or write 
> serotek and ask them to support more software applications? I don't have 
> access to readers in rural berks county pennsylvania. Also why is the blio 
> reader still not accessible? They said it would be accessible in October 
> and blindbargains says that so far it only works with jaws. Well guys I 
> have a free open source scriptable screen reader right here and even if I 
> had the money I wouldn't spend $1295 or so on jaws12. Why should I? nvda 
> and system access do most of what I want. I tried learning python and 
> failed. Not everybody can be a programmer just like not everybody can be 
> an auto-mechanic fixing cars. System access works with mostly everything I 
> need except for project. So can we all here on the nabs-l list write 
> serotek asking for ms-project support? I don't really have access to 
> readers. Neither can I pay for them. I would rather do the work myself, 
> learn and experience ms-project for myself. and then the question is since 
> nvda2011.1 will be out soon all 2010.2 scripts or appmodules will be 
> broken.
> I want to take this project class if I can. nvda scripting obviously is 
> not stable yet. I bought serotek's build a bundle system access a few days 
> ago. I'm a paying customer and I need access to ms-project2007-2010. 
> Sometimes I get the feeling that money takes precedence over making a 
> program accessible. Don't you guys see that if serotek added ms-project 
> support or if nvda got their scripting stable and added it these low cost 
> screen readers would be even more useful? Oh I can't wait to see the day, 
> if it even happens that system access and nvda become the leading screen 
> readers on the market. And when I graduate and when I get to baltimore and 
> join the nfb I am going to push and push and push for widespread nvda 
> scripting and widespread serotek product use. As soon as I can I'm getting 
> docuscanplus and serotek's hoverCam neo or HoverCam mini. Blindbargains 
> wrote an article in the top stories of 2010. In the article they said the 
> reason or part of the reason windows narrator did not become a full screen 
> reader was because microsoft caved into pressure from the nfb and other 
> organizations so that the $1300 screen reader would remain in the forfront 
> of the computer accessibility market. my question is why? and is this even 
> true or are blindbargains' claims false? If I need a waver and have to 
> replace the project class with another I will but I'd rather not go that 
> route. I have two screen readers on here with the potential to give me 
> microsoft project accessibility. Now if ms-project accessibility were 
> implemented in either software it would benefit many blind people and 
> increase our job opportunities. Freedom scientific is disappointing. 
> They're up to jaws12 but they only support project2000? Perhaps someone at 
> capella could at least script nvda2010.2 to make it work. So far there are 
> still two developers, only two, working on nvda. why are there not more? 
> Freedom scientific and gw-micro don't even want to seem to even hear that 
> nvda exists and is getting better. Serotek on the other hand acknowledges 
> nvda's existance. If I ever would win the lottery I would spend as much 
> money as needed hire developers and I would make nvda the leading screen 
> reader followed by system access. I wonder if gw and fs are afraid of nvda 
> and system access taking over? or could it be the different state agencies 
> who are afraid of that happening? I wonder if there's some conspiracy 
> going on keeping the blind community for the most part locked into using 
> gw and fs products? System access reads charts in excel and I only have to 
> pay $10 per month to get access to that or go to satogo.com and use it 
> that way. It just makes me mad that even after I make the agency get me a 
> mac, with windows7, as soon as I need something scripted they won't even 
> look at nvda they instead gravitate to jaws or window-eyes. This has to be 
> changed.
>
> Josh
>
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