[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

Sat Jun 18 14:02:38 UTC 2011

Going to national convention, Jorge? Sounds like a great 
resolution to write up.  Hint hint!

 Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:43:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

either way...  I kind of doubt  you'll see that passed- that's a 
part
of all of our  constitutions, on every level of the organization
and I imagine it's been so for a reason.

On 6/17/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
 my mistake,
 I meant NATIONAL ASSOSIATION OF BLIND STUENTS.
 That was my mistake.

 On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Darian Smith wrote:

 Well, now that I looked at  it  and thought about it,  George's
 amendment  called for  the National Federation of the Blind, not 
the
 National Association of Blind Students to  adopt this voting 
practice.
 If this amendment is something one would like to see in our  
national
 constitution, it would not go  the nabs president, as the 
amendment is
 no longer pertaining to nabs.  (at least not in how it was 
written).
 One thing to keep in mind is that our  national convention is  
one
 big business meeting, as such the business of the organization 
has
 been and is done in person.  I believe that this should be kept
 intact.  otherwise, why have a  convention to carry out 
business?
  Darian

 On 6/17/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
 Marsha,

 Let's go back to absenttee ballots again.  You say that "this
 would be a complicated process of tallying the votes." Well, the
 local Boards of Elections would have to essentially do the same
 thing with absentee ballots.  How would they know that multiple
 votes aren't being added by one person? The ballots are in
 hardcopy print.  How could this work for NABS? Hardcopy Braille
 and large print! It seems simple to me.  And, if the whole
 convention would want this, I say let them.  That is, if the
 board votes in favor of the proposed amendment if said proposed
 amendment were proposed to be added to the NFB constitution.

 Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com
 To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:07:35 -0400
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

 In theory this is a good suggestion.  But lets be realistic 
here.
 This would
 be a complicated process of tallying the votes.  If the students
 were to do
 this, the general convention would want this too.  Its sad that
 those who
 can't be there can't vote, but that is where those who can't be
 there,
 should get involved to elect those who they feel would do the
 best job
 possible.

 Say if you were to have a online way to take votes, how are you
 going to
 distinguish from those who are really not going to those who are
 going to
 convention but who want to vote and add votes to a particular
 person
 running.

 Now correct me someone if I am wrong, isn't it true that you can
 run, not
 necessarily be there, and be elected? Or must you be present?
 Different
 divisions do this differently.

 Marsha

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
 [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
 Of Jorge Paez
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:57 AM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

 Hello all:
 I want to propose the following amendment to the constitution, 
to
 article
 IV.

 ---

 Voting

 Due to the fact that there are people who will not be present at
 the
 convention due to issues beyond the membership's control, but 
who
 have paid
 dues and do therefore, retain their right to vote, the NATIONAL
 ASSOCIATION
 OF THE BLIND shall henceforth recognize
 these members by allowing them to vote, in such methods as are
 legal and of
 good practice, in all elections pertaining to the business of
 this
 organization.

 ---

 end of amendment.

 The defense I put forth for this amendment is simple: if we are
 to be a
 democratic organization, and if we are truly the "voice of the
 Nation's
 blind" we must realize there are students who will not be able 
to
 attend but
 who have paid dues, and these students must be recognized and
 given the
 chance to vote in elections.  If not, we are violating our own
 constitution
 as article IV is doing as of this writing, by eliminating those
 members who
 cannot attend convention, and therein setting only a certain
 portion of the
 student membership to vote.

 Jorge
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