[nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes interview, Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT
Kirt Manwaring
kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Wed Jun 22 17:04:07 UTC 2011
Man...that'll teach me to double-check what I'm writing before I send
it. Sorry folks, that was almost not legible.
On 6/22/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anmol,
> It's a nice thought. Maybe it'll be possible, some day. Never say
> never, ri9ght?
> But here's the thing. The two organizations have evolved two
> separate philosophies and mindsets. I'm doing something really bad
> and generalizing. If anyone who knows more than I do wants to correct
> me here, feel free.
> The stance the ACB seems to take more often than not is to make the
> environment more accessible for us. This is evidenced by their
> support for audible street signals (which make a lot of sense to me,
> I'm not really convinced one way or the other on that one yet),
> tactile currency, descriptive movies, the provisions in the ADA to
> make ATMs accessible, the 21st century communications act, their
> support for Randolph-Shepherd, universal design in technology, etc.
> They also use lots of their resources to fight descrimination, at
> least it seems that way to me.
> The NFB, on the other hand, seems to more often than not advocate us
> adapting to the environment. This is evidenced by the strict
> standards of training centers, pushing braille, opposition to the
> tactile currency idea, advocacy of relying on traffic rather than
> audible signals (which makes a lot of sense to me), our philosophy
> that with the right training and opportunity we can compete on an
> equal footing, the idea of the blind driver challenge, etc. Of course
> the NFB sometimes pushes making changes in the environment (technology
> bill of rights, Help America Vote Act, and the ADA which we also
> supported), and the ACB does advocate for quality independence
> training/O&M. But, those are the rough philosophies of the two
> organizations, if we're going by their records. Is the ACB wrong?
> No, I don't think so, but the NFB is more of a fit with my vision of
> blindness. I just think thee two separate methodoligies willkeep us
> from ever uniting as one group...and that's ok. We all have the
> right, even the obligation to advocate for ourselves and those we
> represent. The ACB does it their way, we do it ours. Sometimes there
> is overlap, lots of times our philosophies take us in different
> directions and put us on opposite sides of important issues. When our
> aims are the same (or similar), we need to work together and present a
> united front. When we are at odds (which we often are, the two
> organizations really are very different), we both have the right to
> push our separate agendas and attempt to get our policies implimented.
> Sometimes they win, sometimes we win, that's politics. We don't have
> to be bitter about it and, on the personal level, we can still be good
> friends even when our politics are at odds.
> Just my thoughts,
> Kirt
>
> On 6/22/11, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Kirt,
>> You bring some vary valid points, and yes we have beaten the
>> democrats/republicans analogy to death but it keeps coming up as a
>> comparison, so I will just say one thing about this. I may have already
>> said
>> this before on the list, but please furgive me if I have. The blind
>> community is a to small of a community to be divided on partizen lines
>> like
>> democrats and republicans, and our challenges are to great to be divided
>> like democrats and republicans. Sure there will be differences between
>> members of the ACB and members of the NFB on how business should be
>> conducted, but honestly there differences between members of each
>> organization on how their organization should do business.
>> True there were disagreement on how business should and leadership issues
>> causing the split between the NFB and ACB, I consider the leadership
>> issues
>> to be pitty differences. Often when one candidate loses, they and their
>> supporters go and form their on organization or chapter. This happened at
>> my
>> local NFB chapter and as a result we have two NFB chapters in a small
>> town.
>> Now some may consider this to be a good thing, but think about how much
>> more
>> we can achieve if we were one NFB chapter in Fayetteville in recruiting,
>> fund raising and my volunteers for events. In addition, these types of
>> childish arguements causes many blind people who otherwise may be
>> involved
>> in a blind organization to be a "fense sitters". Now using this analogy
>> to
>> NFB ACB, ACB does not have near the funds that NFB has, but they are not
>> poor eather. Their attendence is not as large at the conventions, but it
>> is
>> not small eather. Think if both of these organizations were together how
>> much more money we would have to do policy that each organization does
>> or
>> the advocacy work that each organization does, and think about how much
>> larger the convention would be. We would pack two hotels full or near
>> full.
>> In addition, think about how much venders would be giving out in prizes
>> because now insteading having to spend money to send their workers to two
>> convention, they will only have to send their workers to one convention.
>> In
>> addition, most venders give out big prizes at each convention and if
>> there
>> was only one convention, they can give two prizes.
>> However, you are right in that realistically the two organizations will
>> not
>> merge any time soon.
>>
>> best wishes,
>> Anmol
>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>> breeze
>> among flowers.
>> Hellen Keller
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 6/21/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes interview,
>>> Ride
>>> into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 2:51 PM
>>> Anmol,
>>> I don't really see a merger happening any time soon,
>>> nor would I
>>> want it to. We've all beaten the democrat/republican
>>> analogy to
>>> death...but imagine Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in the
>>> same political
>>> party. It just wouldn't work. There are huge
>>> differences. It
>>> doesn't make the NFB better for everyone, but it makes the
>>> NFB better
>>> for me. I have lots of respect for my friends in the
>>> ACB who stand up
>>> and fight for their agenda. Lots of the times, it's
>>> the same as mine.
>>> When it's not, we can talk without being jackasses to each
>>> other and,
>>> in a lot of cases, the disagreement actually strengthens
>>> our
>>> friendship.
>>> I say diversity is good, competition is good, we
>>> need a free market
>>> of ideas. I respect ACB and the sincere people there
>>> trying to make
>>> the lives of blind people better. I happen to find
>>> the Federation
>>> philosophy and method more meaningful for me. I want
>>> to understand
>>> the split. From the little bit of studying I've done,
>>> I don't really
>>> think it was petty personal differences but rather
>>> differing
>>> philosophies about methodology and leadership that drove
>>> the two
>>> groups to separate. We can be different without being
>>> petty. We can
>>> disagree without being bigots. When our two
>>> organizations come down
>>> on opposite sides of important issues, as we often do, we
>>> need not be
>>> arrogant or self-rightious because we think we're
>>> right. The fact is,
>>> we disagree. And I think the disagreements are too
>>> central to our
>>> respective organizations for us to ever become one.
>>> But that doesn't
>>> mean we can't be friends, especially on a personal level.
>>> Best,
>>> Kirt
>>>
>>> On 6/21/11, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Kirt,
>>> > You are bringing up some vary good points...
>>> Understanding the history of
>>> > the NFB and ACB is an import part in the history in
>>> the blind movement and
>>> > an important part in the history of two organizations.
>>> Frankly in it is just
>>> > my oppinion both organizations bring value and have
>>> and continue to make a
>>> > difference for blind people across America on a daily
>>> bases. It is a shame
>>> > that this split happened and just maybe the next
>>> generation of blind
>>> > individuals our generation or those who are younger
>>> then can bring the two
>>> > organizations together once again. Now this is just my
>>> translation and my
>>> > oppinion, but it seems to me that the NFB ACB
>>> split happened over pitty
>>> > differences and two individuals with different ideas
>>> fighting for power. It
>>> > seems to me that the hate the two organizations have
>>> towards each other is
>>> > not as strong amongest this generation. Infact many
>>> members of NABS of ACB
>>> > and NABS of NFB are friends in life and attack on the
>>> other organization is
>>> > usually not allow on each organization's mailing
>>> list.
>>> > Dave, you are right that ACB does not have the same
>>> amount of people
>>> > attending its' convention, but their attendence is not
>>> small eather. I would
>>> > guess 1500 attend the ACB convention and all the major
>>> venders who attend
>>> > the NFB convention attend the ACB convention. There
>>> are also quite a few
>>> > young people who attend the ACB convention.
>>> > Yes ACB does its' business different then NFB, but
>>> thats why they are a
>>> > different organization. However, this does not make
>>> them any worse or better
>>> > then the NFB.
>>> > Just my thoughts and it would be great if we keep the
>>> attacks on each
>>> > organization to as less as possible.
>>> >
>>> > Anmol
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>>> make me sad. Perhaps
>>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>>> vague, like a breeze
>>> > among flowers.
>>> > Hellen Keller
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Tue, 6/21/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw
>>> Our Eyes interview, Ride
>>> >> into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22,
>>> 8:00 pm EDT
>>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list"
>>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 12:25 PM
>>> >> Dave,
>>> >> How long ago was this? Things could've
>>> changed
>>> >> since you last went
>>> >> if it's been a while, maybe? And, with respect,
>>> this
>>> >> is a big deal to
>>> >> a lot of us. I know for me it's a lot more than
>>> a
>>> >> "small
>>> >> consideration", I like to know the past as much as
>>> I can
>>> >> because it
>>> >> shaped the here and now. I can read the books
>>> put out
>>> >> by each
>>> >> organization-they probably both have lots of the
>>> truth
>>> >> intermingled
>>> >> with their respective agendas. But nothing
>>> beats
>>> >> talking to people
>>> >> who have studied the issues or, preferably, people
>>> who were
>>> >> actually
>>> >> there.
>>> >> All the best,
>>> >> Kirt
>>> >>
>>> >> On 6/21/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > The two biggest things I noticed at an ACB
>>> national
>>> >> convention were
>>> >> > that the crowd was considerably smaller than
>>> that at a
>>> >> NFB convention
>>> >> > -- less exhibits etc. too. The second
>>> things was
>>> >> that there were few
>>> >> > young persons -- some but noticeably not
>>> very
>>> >> many. One of the major
>>> >> > things that the ACB has pushed in the past is
>>> that it
>>> >> is different
>>> >> > from the NFB, it does things differently
>>> etc.
>>> >> This doesn't really
>>> >> > matter to younger people though, so they have
>>> little
>>> >> reason to join, so
>>> >> > don't.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > You guys can spend lots of time on the
>>> history, and
>>> >> differences if
>>> >> > you want -- but what is the point. It
>>> happened,
>>> >> it is over with and
>>> >> > done. Yes we can and should learn from our
>>> >> history, but it is just
>>> >> > one small consideration.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Dave
>>> >> >
>>> >> > At 11:32 AM 6/20/2011, you wrote:
>>> >> >>Dave,
>>> >> >> I do see your point. Those
>>> >> alive at the time are not, and will
>>> >> >>probabluy never be friends. Heck,
>>> getting
>>> >> them to actually talk in
>>> >> >>peace would be the achievement of the
>>> >> century! if such a call were
>>> >> >>to hypothetically happen, how could we
>>> keep it from
>>> >> opening old wounds
>>> >> >>and stoking old fires?
>>> >> >> Best,
>>> >> >>Kirt
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>On 6/20/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> > Dave,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Our joint conference call isn't
>>> associated
>>> >> whatsoever with the
>>> >> >> > proposition of a change in the NFB
>>> >> bylaw. If I'm setting this
>>> >> >> > up, which it appears I am, I didn't
>>> even have
>>> >> the intention of
>>> >> >> > mentioning that proposition on the
>>> >> call. The call's purpose is
>>> >> >> > to learn the history of the NFB/ACB,
>>> with a
>>> >> little emphasis on
>>> >> >> > the "civil war" period, from both
>>> sides so we
>>> >> are informed. I
>>> >> >> > also want this call to start a
>>> discussion on
>>> >> the history of our
>>> >> >> > movement and what we can learn from
>>> it, not
>>> >> only as
>>> >> >> > Federationists, but as blind
>>> students.
>>> >> Jorge and I have found
>>> >> >> > some ways that we can hold the call
>>> without
>>> >> making it a NABS
>>> >> >> > membership call, if it is entirely
>>> >> necessary. And as to your
>>> >> >> > comments about them not being our
>>> friends,
>>> >> then using your
>>> >> >> > argument, the Republicans should not
>>> hear the
>>> >> Democrats point of
>>> >> >> > view in meetings of Congress, but
>>> the two
>>> >> parties should be
>>> >> >> > separated from each other for fear
>>> of their
>>> >> own side being
>>> >> >> > attacked. We can keep our same
>>> >> opinions, and probably many
>>> >> >> > Federationists and Council members
>>> who attend
>>> >> this call will.
>>> >> >> > This is just a way that we can be
>>> more
>>> >> informed when forming
>>> >> >> > these opinions.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Chris
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > "A loss of sight, never a loss of
>>> vision!"
>>> >> (Camp Abilities motto)
>>> >> >> > To learn more about Camp Abilities
>>> and find a
>>> >> local camp near
>>> >> >> > you, just click on this link to
>>> their
>>> >> national Web site:
>>> >> >> > www.campabilities.org.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > The I C.A.N. Foundation helps
>>> visually
>>> >> impaired youth in
>>> >> >> > Maryland have the ability to
>>> confidently say
>>> >> "I can!" How? Click
>>> >> >> > on this link to learn more and to
>>> >> contribute:
>>> >> >> > www.icanfoundation.info.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Sent from my BrailleNote
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> > From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>> >> >> > To: National Association of Blind
>>> Students
>>> >> mailing list
>>> >> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> >> >> > Date sent: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:39:01
>>> -0500
>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
>>> [Nfbnet-members-list]
>>> >> Threw Our Eyes
>>> >> >> > interview,Ride into History, Race
>>> for
>>> >> Independence, Wed. June
>>> >> >> > 22, 8:00 pm EDT
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Chris:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I don't want to friend anyone -- but
>>> I think
>>> >> this is a terrible
>>> >> >> > idea! Remember the ACB split off
>>> from
>>> >> the NFB because they
>>> >> >> > thought
>>> >> >> > that we were all wrong, did our
>>> business in
>>> >> the wrong way etc. I
>>> >> >> > am
>>> >> >> > not going to say that we can't learn
>>> anything
>>> >> from the ACB, but
>>> >> >> > not a
>>> >> >> > history lesson. I was at a ACb
>>> National
>>> >> Convention a few years
>>> >> >> > ago
>>> >> >> > -- and heard the NFB attacked openly
>>> and
>>> >> indirectly. These folks
>>> >> >> > are
>>> >> >> > not our friends. We can work
>>> jointly at
>>> >> times, and should, and I
>>> >> >> > don't think we should be against
>>> them, for
>>> >> the sake of it, as
>>> >> >> > some of
>>> >> >> > my old-timer friends are -- but a
>>> joint
>>> >> conference call on
>>> >> >> > consideration of a change to a NFB
>>> division
>>> >> bylaw is going to
>>> >> >> > far!
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Dave
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > At 12:53 PM 6/19/2011, you wrote:
>>> >> >> > Kirt,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I have a friend in the Council that
>>> I will
>>> >> see Monday night, so I
>>> >> >> > plan to give this idea to him and
>>> ask if he
>>> >> knows someone in the
>>> >> >> > Council that would be knowledgeable
>>> enough
>>> >> and willing to attend
>>> >> >> > this call on behalf of the Council
>>> as an
>>> >> expert on their history.
>>> >> >> > Maybe it would be better if someone
>>> like me
>>> >> moderated. Keep in
>>> >> >> > mind
>>> >> >> > that I did volunteer, but I'm not
>>> degrading
>>> >> anyone else, I'm just
>>> >> >> > using myself as an example here.
>>> I'm a
>>> >> member of the Federation,
>>> >> >> > but I'm not a hard-line "NFB is
>>> good, ACB
>>> >> bad" person, so I
>>> >> >> > wouldn't
>>> >> >> > show any bias to NFB or ACB. I
>>> also am
>>> >> not currently a
>>> >> >> > contributing
>>> >> >> > (due-paying) member of NABS, so I'm
>>> not a
>>> >> leader in it of
>>> >> >> > course. That way, we wouldn't have
>>> any
>>> >> bias.
>>> >> >> > I think it would be easy to have it
>>> jointly
>>> >> attended even if it's
>>> >> >> > an
>>> >> >> > official NABS call. If we have a
>>> >> representative of ACB on the
>>> >> >> > call,
>>> >> >> > we could probably easily get other
>>> members of
>>> >> ACB on the call to
>>> >> >> > kind of back up or add to that
>>> guest
>>> >> speaker's information.
>>> >> >> > Thoughts?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Chris
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > "A loss of sight, never a loss of
>>> vision!"
>>> >> (Camp Abilities motto)
>>> >> >> > To learn more about Camp Abilities
>>> and find a
>>> >> local camp near
>>> >> >> > you,
>>> >> >> > just click on this link to their
>>> national Web
>>> >> site:
>>> >> >> > www.campabilities.org.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > The I C.A.N. Foundation helps
>>> visually
>>> >> impaired youth in
>>> >> >> > Maryland
>>> >> >> > have the ability to confidently say
>>> "I can!"
>>> >> How? Click on this
>>> >> >> > link
>>> >> >> > to learn more and to contribute:
>>> >> www.icanfoundation.info.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Sent from my BrailleNote
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> > From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
>>> >> >> > To: National Association of Blind
>>> Students
>>> >> mailing list
>>> >> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> >> >> > Date sent: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:45:08
>>> -0600
>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
>>> [Nfbnet-members-list]
>>> >> Threw Our Eyes
>>> >> >> > interview,Ride into History, Race
>>> for
>>> >> Independence, Wed. June
>>> >> >> > 22, 8:00 pm EDT
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Carley,
>>> >> >> > The two organizations don't
>>> >> really claim to be "friends" as
>>> >> >> > such-it
>>> >> >> > seems like now they just mostly
>>> ignore each
>>> >> other, work jointly
>>> >> >> > when
>>> >> >> > their agendas converge and play
>>> politics when
>>> >> they don't. Maybe
>>> >> >> > they
>>> >> >> > aren't enemies, but the official
>>> >> organizations don't really
>>> >> >> > advertise
>>> >> >> > themselves as friends.
>>> >> >> > While it would be great to
>>> >> have people from both organizations
>>> >> >> > participate in a joint call, I don't
>>> see it
>>> >> happening. Here's
>>> >> >> > hoping
>>> >> >> > though, I guess It's certainly a
>>> nice
>>> >> thought-although, if the
>>> >> >> > call
>>> >> >> > were to have presentations from
>>> members of
>>> >> both organizations, it
>>> >> >> > probably should be jointly moderated
>>> and
>>> >> attended. The NFB (or
>>> >> >> > probably even NABS) would, I'm
>>> betting, not
>>> >> be inclined to go
>>> >> >> > there.
>>> >> >> > So maybe we'll have better luck
>>> going through
>>> >> unnoficial channels
>>> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> > setting this up on our own? No
>>> need to
>>> >> make it an official event
>>> >> >> > for
>>> >> >> > either the Federation or the
>>> Council-I think
>>> >> it's safe to say
>>> >> >> > that
>>> >> >> > idea was doomed to fail before it
>>> was brought
>>> >> up.
>>> >> >> > Best,
>>> >> >> > Kirt
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On 6/18/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> > And, as I said before, I would be
>>> very
>>> >> willing to moderate this
>>> >> >> > call. Please keep me posted!
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Chris
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > "A loss of sight, never a loss of
>>> vision!"
>>> >> (Camp Abilities motto)
>>> >> >> > To learn more about Camp Abilities
>>> and find a
>>> >> local camp near
>>> >> >> > you, just click on this link to
>>> their
>>> >> national Web site:
>>> >> >> > www.campabilities.org.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > The I C.A.N. Foundation helps
>>> visually
>>> >> impaired youth in
>>> >> >> > Maryland have the ability to
>>> confidently say
>>> >> "I can!" How? Click
>>> >> >> > on this link to learn more and to
>>> >> contribute:
>>> >> >> > www.icanfoundation.info.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Sent from my BrailleNote
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message
>>> >> -----
>>> >> >> > From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com
>>> >> >> > To: National Association of Blind
>>> Students
>>> >> mailing list
>>> >> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> >> >> > Date sent: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:51:04
>>> -0400
>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
>>> [Nfbnet-members-list]
>>> >> Threw Our Eyes
>>> >> >> > interview,Ride into History, Race
>>> for
>>> >> Independence, Wed. June
>>> >> >> > 22, 8:00 pm EDT
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > This call would be very interesting
>>> >> indeed. If representatives
>>> >> >> > from both organizations are willing
>>> to
>>> >> participate, it can really
>>> >> >> > be productive in many ways.
>>> >> >> > On Jun 18, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Carly
>>> Mihalakis
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Good morning, list,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > A few days ago, someone on
>>> >> the NABS list suggested a
>>> >> >> > conference
>>> >> >> > call bringing clarity to a younger
>>> >> generation. What, exactly, is
>>> >> >> > the history of the ideological
>>> parting of
>>> >> ways, between the
>>> >> >> > Federation and the Council? Does
>>> anybody know
>>> >> today, the history
>>> >> >> > of this division or is it a product
>>> of sheer
>>> >> habit as is the case
>>> >> >> > with Republicans and Democrats? If
>>> such a
>>> >> meeting of both
>>> >> >> > entities were to take place, There
>>> ought to
>>> >> be representation of
>>> >> >> > both organizations so that a
>>> wholistic
>>> >> portrait of this issue
>>> >> >> > can be exercised.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > and its split from the
>>> >> ACB. This seems like a productive and
>>> >> >> > enlightening discussion but I
>>> wonder, if the
>>> >> Federation and the
>>> >> >> > council claim to be friends, should
>>> there not
>>> >> be representation
>>> >> >> > from both sides, identifying
>>> >> their position and whereabouts
>>> >> >> > they stand, in this? At
>>> >> >> > ---- Original Message
>>> >> ------
>>> >> >> > From: "Joe Ruffalo" <nfbnj at yahoo.com>
>>> >> (by way of David
>>> >> >> > Andrews<dandrews at visi.com>)
>>> >> >> > Subject:
>>> >> [Nfbnet-members-list] Thru Our Eyes interview,
>>> Ride
>>> >> >> > into History,Race for
>>> Independence,
>>> >> Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT
>>> >> >> > Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011
>>> >> 19:26:45 -0500
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Save The Date:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Wednesday, June 22,at
>>> >> 8:00 pm eastern, Thru Our Eyes host,
>>> >> >> > Joe
>>> >> >> > Ruffalo will interview
>>> >> Parnell Diggs, chair of the Imagination
>>> >> >> > Fund,
>>> >> >> > Race for Independence.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > The interview will highlight
>>> >> current and past grants awarded to
>>> >> >> > state
>>> >> >> > affiliates and chapters.
>>> >> >> > In addition, featured will
>>> >> be Imaginators who will share the
>>> >> >> > methods
>>> >> >> > to make the ask to make a
>>> >> difference in changing what it means
>>> >> >> > to be blind.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Special highlight of the
>>> >> interview will be the announcement of
>>> >> >> > the 30
>>> >> >> > winners who will have the
>>> >> opportunity to be driven by a blind
>>> >> >> > driver
>>> >> >> > while attending
>>> >> >> > the national convention in
>>> >> Orlando.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Witness the opportunity to
>>> >> ride into history!
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > To watch and listen to the
>>> >> interview, please visit the
>>> >> >> > following:
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>>> >> >> >
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