[nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes interview, Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT

Fri Jun 24 02:12:40 UTC 2011

Hi, Kurt,

As I understand it, a muscle striates when it is active. If 
therefore, a law, procedure or cultural norm striates, it flexes its 
muscle, thus changing states.
Have fun, Kurt!
Car23/2011, you wrote:
>Carly,
>   I'm not exactly sure what a striation is.  The NFBwas opposed to
>such a measure, and I think they were right to be against it for
>reasons I've already mentioned.  But, after the federal court judge
>decided to side with the ACB, the NFB decided, rightly, that it may as
>well be a part of the process since it was going to happen anyway.  I
>don't really see the harm in this, do you?
>   Best,
>Kirt
>
>On 6/23/11, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Good morning, Kirt,
> >
> >          'Seems to me though, that one ought to be able to determine
> > shades of their own reality, which is how I understand the Federation
> > wants its members, to conduct themselves, in the world. Yet, beyond
> > the elaborate striations the existing system will need to experience,
> > if such a change were to be made, how come the Federation
> > didn't  speak up when it was asked, by the Mint last time that entity
> > produced curency?
> > :
> >>Carly,
> >>   We all make mistakes.  No worries.
> >>   Now, just for the heck of it, I'd like to address a point I think
> >>you made earlier.  (I'm only guessing, because my gmail wouldn't read
> >>the whole message to me)  But I think you said something like this.
> >>"The federation is kind of hypocritical because they rap ad noseum
> >>about independence but are stuck relying on sighted people to help
> >>them-depending on another person isn't independence at all!"  If I'm
> >>off the mark, I'm sorry, but I can see you saying something like that
> >>so it's just my guess of what you said from the little bit gmail was
> >>able to read me.
> >>   Here's the thing about that.  Independence does not mean do
> >>everything by yourself all the time.  It simply means you can do what
> >>you want to, when you want to do it, in a way that's efficient and
> >>works for you.  It means, basically, that you aren't subject to
> >>another person's vision of your life, you do things the way you wish
> >>to do them.  It also means you do this without really making anyone
> >>else go much out of their way to help you.
> >>   So think of it this way.  Every store already has a sighted worker,
> >>most of those will be honest, almost all will be honest with other
> >>people watching.  If you ask that person "hey, what's this bill you're
> >>handing me?" that's in no way compromising your independence.  Using
> >>technology is better because it takes away the outside chance that
> >>someone's trying to pull off some funny business but, without the
> >>technology, you're still probably safe most of the time.  As we've
> >>seen already from other posts, nothing is fool proof.
> >>   But back to independence and philosophy and stuff.  Have you ever
> >>used a reader?  If you have, you're using another person, who's
> >>chosing to do something they don't have to do; either they get money
> >>or they don't, but it works because you get the job done and you
> >>aren't forcing them to do it for you.  They chose to provide their
> >>time to read you something-you aren't making them do anything.  Have
> >>you ever used a sighted guide?  I do, all the time.  (I'm starting to
> >>less and less just to keep my cane skills up but sometimes it's just
> >>the most efficient way to get stuff done.)  You can get somewhere
> >>independently and use a sighted guide, as long as you're getting there
> >>on your terms and you could do it without a guide there.
> >>   See what I'm saying?  Independent and interdependent aren't mutually
> >>exclusive.
> >>   Best,
> >>Kirt
> >>
> >>On 6/23/11, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 'Morning, Kurt,
> >> >
> >> >          'Guess I really blew it for myuy self with all those I'd say
> >> > off the wall comments, about the Ibill.
> >> >
> >> > Now a truth immerges which I failed to state clearly, before.
> >> >
> >> > 'was confused with the NoteTeller 2 which, experience has shown me is
> >> > unreliable, at best.
> >> > Carly even the person
> >> >> > showing them couild not make them work.
> >> >> > It's interesting however that folks on this List have found good luck
> >> >> > with them.
> >> >> > Carwrote:
> >> >> >>That is your experience -- mine is that the iBill works quite well
> >> >> >>-- and I think others have found this to be true too.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Dave
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>At 05:08 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Hi, Hamberto and all interested folks,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Truth be known, my common law husband and I had the I bill,
> >> >> >>>courtesy of rehab but, after repeated attempts to make the thing
> >> >> >>>identify paper currency, we ascertained it a genuine piece of shit
> >> >> >>>and is not worth anything, so I submit that the manufacturers must
> >> >> >>>be well aware of their having themselves a niche market, in blind
> >> >> >>>people and the deep pocketed agencies who tend to support them, so
> >> >> >>>are totally exploiting it in the manner of any Capitalist aware of
> >> >> >>>the exisstance of a small and needy marketplace.
> >> >> >>>So, in essence, don't waste your's or rehab's  time with the I
> >> >> >>>bill! 02:11 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:
> >> >> >>>>Hello, but what happens if I have a bill in my hand and I want to
> >> >> >>>> know
> >> >> >>>> what
> >> >> >>>>it is, but there is not a single sighted soul to tell me what it
> >> >> >>>> is? I
> >> >> >>>> know
> >> >> >>>>is a free alternative but, is it truly worth it? And, what if that
> >> >> >>>> sighted
> >> >> >>>>person lies about the amount of money that is on the bill?
> >> >> >>>>I would probably support ideas like the KNFB reader and the iBill
> >> >> >>>> identifier
> >> >> >>>>if they were even cheaper. If they were so, I would buy one or the
> >> >> >>>> other,
> >> >> >>>>but so far, I can not afford either one.
> >> >> >>
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