[nabs-l] Blind and low vision airline travlers

[Arielle Silverman]

As far as I know there is only one "button" in the bathroom-so
labeling isn't likely to resolve any confusion since you have to find
the Brailled button in the first place!
Best,
Arielle

On 10/20/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon, Jedi,
>
> Blind people must habitually, fall back upon a certain ingenuity,
> primarily to investigate the layers of their environments that are
> accessabile  to blind folks. We don't need all that to-do, about
> precisely where said toilett flushers, are located!
> How 'bout accessable currency? Perhaps audio captioning? Com'on!
> for today,
> Car  At 03:53 PM 10/20/2011, Jedi wrote:
>>I think Braille row numbers would be nice, but aren't really
>>necessary as just counting the seats may be more efficient than
>>trying to read row numbers while quickly making your way down the
>>isles. As to the bathroom situation, I don't think we need special
>>info on the layout as its pretty obvious that the flush is near the
>>toilet and so on. But if you want, you could include labels on the
>>buttons in the bathroom themselves just like there are for the
>>sighted. But honestly, it really hasn't been a problem.
>>
>>I'm with arielle on one thing. Most of our accessibility problems
>>stem from dealing with airline personnel. They tend to act in
>>strange ways when we're flying. I think some updated ADA training
>>would be appreciated by all of us. As to the blind, ADA training
>>should include relevant laws regarding cane storage (tell them that
>>canes can be stored with passengers if done so correctly). Other
>>info should include the fact that we do not have to board and
>>deplane separately from other passengers, but that it should be an
>>option for guide dog users as some prefer the additional time to
>>situate their dogs.
>>
>>But if accessibility is really where your interests are in terms of
>>how blind passengers use airlines, then your time and money are
>>better spent on issues of acquiring plane tickets and flight
>>information. We need more ways of getting up-to-date flight info
>>that are accessible. Mobile apps have helped in this respect, but
>>some of these are also inaccessible. As to getting plane tickets,
>>some airlines and travel sites are not screen reader friendly. When
>>we get to the airport, we find that many airlines are moving toward
>>a kiosk-based check-in system that we cannot use; we know that
>>touchscreen machines can be made accessible, but it seems that
>>airlines (and the courts) don't see this as a priority even though
>>it's becoming a real problem for us. But at the same time, airlines
>>are willing to implement accessibility features that are either
>>useless, annoying, or completely ridiculous.
>>
>>Respectfully,
>>Jedi
>>
>>Original message:
>>>More specifically, the layout of the bathrooms as they are different on
>>>every airline. maybe a braille plaque on the inside of door explaining
>>> where
>>>the flush button etc. is? Brailled row and seat numbers, that sort  of
>>>things. Not the redesign of the cabin or rows. Thanks, Va
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