[nabs-l] Blind and low vision airline travlers

[Jedi]

For sure. but there's really no harm in labeling a button. Why not?

Respectfully Submitted

Original message:
> As far as I know there is only one "button" in the bathroom-so
> labeling isn't likely to resolve any confusion since you have to find
> the Brailled button in the first place!
> Best,
> Arielle

> On 10/20/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Good afternoon, Jedi,

>> Blind people must habitually, fall back upon a certain ingenuity,
>> primarily to investigate the layers of their environments that are
>> accessabile  to blind folks. We don't need all that to-do, about
>> precisely where said toilett flushers, are located!
>> How 'bout accessable currency? Perhaps audio captioning? Com'on!
>> for today,
>> Car  At 03:53 PM 10/20/2011, Jedi wrote:
>>> I think Braille row numbers would be nice, but aren't really
>>> necessary as just counting the seats may be more efficient than
>>> trying to read row numbers while quickly making your way down the
>>> isles. As to the bathroom situation, I don't think we need special
>>> info on the layout as its pretty obvious that the flush is near the
>>> toilet and so on. But if you want, you could include labels on the
>>> buttons in the bathroom themselves just like there are for the
>>> sighted. But honestly, it really hasn't been a problem.

>>> I'm with arielle on one thing. Most of our accessibility problems
>>> stem from dealing with airline personnel. They tend to act in
>>> strange ways when we're flying. I think some updated ADA training
>>> would be appreciated by all of us. As to the blind, ADA training
>>> should include relevant laws regarding cane storage (tell them that
>>> canes can be stored with passengers if done so correctly). Other
>>> info should include the fact that we do not have to board and
>>> deplane separately from other passengers, but that it should be an
>>> option for guide dog users as some prefer the additional time to
>>> situate their dogs.

>>> But if accessibility is really where your interests are in terms of
>>> how blind passengers use airlines, then your time and money are
>>> better spent on issues of acquiring plane tickets and flight
>>> information. We need more ways of getting up-to-date flight info
>>> that are accessible. Mobile apps have helped in this respect, but
>>> some of these are also inaccessible. As to getting plane tickets,
>>> some airlines and travel sites are not screen reader friendly. When
>>> we get to the airport, we find that many airlines are moving toward
>>> a kiosk-based check-in system that we cannot use; we know that
>>> touchscreen machines can be made accessible, but it seems that
>>> airlines (and the courts) don't see this as a priority even though
>>> it's becoming a real problem for us. But at the same time, airlines
>>> are willing to implement accessibility features that are either
>>> useless, annoying, or completely ridiculous.

>>> Respectfully,
>>> Jedi

>>> Original message:
>>>> More specifically, the layout of the bathrooms as they are different on
>>>> every airline. maybe a braille plaque on the inside of door explaining
>>>> where
>>>> the flush button etc. is? Brailled row and seat numbers, that sort  of
>>>> things. Not the redesign of the cabin or rows. Thanks, Va
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