[nabs-l] Lives Worth Living disability rightsdocumentaryairs on PBS

Thu Oct 27 00:55:50 UTC 2011

sorry I think I spelled your name wrong!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Lives Worth Living disability rightsdocumentaryairs on 
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> Jedi,
> Although not as critical as ramps or elevators for physical impairments, I 
> suggest that building accessibility have some elements for us. This makes 
> navigation more efficient and independent. Label room numbers and 
> restrooms. Do not hang objects overhead because a cane cannot reach them. 
> You can ask a room number, but then you have to either find someone or 
> wait til someone comes by. I recall being in an older university building 
> with no braille signs. I had a hard time locating a particular office. I 
> couldn't find anyone to ask for a long time; many offices are locked so 
> you cannot exactly barge in and ask. But overall accessibility to 
> buildings needs more work for physical disabilities.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Jedi
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:39 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Lives Worth Living disability rights documentaryairs 
> on PBS
>
> Patrick,
>
> What is it about buildings and their layouts that would be inaccessible
> to blind persons? Or, put another way, what do you mean by making a
> building's layout easier for a blind person to navigate?
>
> Respectfully,
> Jedi
>
> Original message:
>> Anmol,
>> I've followed this discussion for a little while now. You ask: "How
>> does a building need to be made accessible for the blind?" There are
>> several things that can be done. First, the addition of Braille signs
>> for rooms. Second, the building could be laid out a certain way so
>> that it was easy to navigate. Another way that some buildings could be
>> made accessible would be for them to provide a tactile map of the
>> building in the lobby. I noticed that there were several tactile maps
>> when I was down in Washington, D.C. this past summer. Beyond this,
>> there's really not a whole lot that buildings can do to make
>> themselves more accessible. I hope this helps you.
>> Patrick
>
>> On 10/24/11, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Carly,
>>> How does a building need to be made accessible for the blind? A person 
>>> in a
>>> wheel chair can not clime stairs there a
>
>>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
>>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a 
>>> breeze
>>> among flowers.
>>> Hellen Keller
>
>
>>> --- On Mon, 10/24/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>>> From: Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Lives Worth Living disability rights documentary
>>>> airs on PBS
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 12:25 AM
>
>
>>>> Hi, Bridgit,
>
>>>> Here in Berkeley, we have the Ed Roberts Campus, which is
>>>> designed to
>>>> be this one-stop shop for agencies serving folk with
>>>> disability. I
>>>> have noticed that, though they spent tons of cash on this
>>>> building
>>>> which is all sup'd up for chairs, it is really inaccessible
>>>> for folk
>>>> who are blind. In the ERC's defense, It seems no easy feat
>>>> to make
>>>> the same facility accessable for both blind folks as well
>>>> as chairs.
>>>> This must be because our needs and abilities are so
>>>> divergent.
>>>> Today, they are having problems making this building named
>>>> for this
>>>> disability pioneer, a meaningful, presence in the
>>>> disability
>>>> community.however, I have to point out that many, many
>>>> other people have been
>>>>> instrumental in the disability rights movement, and the
>>>> NFB is but one
>>>>> organization. Because a group like the Federation
>>>> focuses solely on one
>>>>> disability, we aren't always aware of what else exist
>>>> out there.
>
>>>>> Ed Roberts is actually one of the big names mentioned
>>>> when discussing
>>>>> rights for those with disabilities. He started the
>>>> entire independent
>>>>> living movement, and he's the first person to establish
>>>> independent
>>>>> living centers for those with disabilities. Roberts was
>>>> diagnosed with
>>>>> Polio at a young age; he was unable to move his body
>>>> from the neck down
>>>>> except a few fingers, and he has had to wear an iron
>>>> lung most his life.
>>>>> Roberts had a very independent and positive outlook on
>>>> disability,
>>>>> spurring others to get on board with accepting
>>>> disability as a part of
>>>>> life. He is known for saying "differently able," it was
>>>> Roberts who
>>>>> initiated the dialogue with airlines so that people
>>>> with disabilities
>>>>> could travel with whatever accomodations necessary
>>>> especially those
>>>>> using wheelchairs.
>
>>>>> The pioneer program at Berkley providing services to
>>>> students with
>>>>> disabilities, that eventually was adopted at colleges
>>>> around the
>>>>> country, was headed by Ed Roberts. Because of this guy
>>>> who few actually
>>>>> know of, students with disabilities are offered
>>>> services on their
>>>>> respective campuses. Schools lacking stellar services
>>>> should be ashamed
>>>>> because that was never Roberts idea of quality
>>>> services. Berkley has one
>>>>> of, if not thee, best disability services in the
>>>> country.
>
>>>>> So before assuming the Federation, which has done a lot
>>>> and is certainly
>>>>> a powerful, important organization, double check facts.
>>>> No pun intended,
>>>>> but we tend to keep our blinders on in terms of
>>>> disability in general.
>>>>> The Federation has done a lot- probably the most- for
>>>> blindness alone,
>>>>> but in terms of the disability rights movement as a
>>>> whole, many have
>>>>> come before, and many are still around.
>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>>> Read my blog at:
>>>>> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
>>>>> "History is not what happened; history is what was
>>>> written down."
>>>>> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:43:04 -0400
>>>>> From: Jedi <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Lives Worth Living" Disability
>>>> Rights
>
>>>>    Documentary
>>>>    Premieres on PBS Series Independent Lens;
>>>>> October 27
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>
>>>>> That's odd, where's the Federation in all this seems
>>>> how Jacobus
>>>>> tenBroek kind of founded the Disability Rights movement
>>>> through his
>>>>> scholarly work ? And really, the blindness movement is
>>>> probably one of
>>>>> the strongest in the overall Disability Rights
>>>> Movement.
>
>>>>> And also, has anyone heard whether or not the film will
>>>> be available
>>>>> online as I don't have a television?.
>
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Jedi
>
>
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