[nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Wed Sep 14 20:49:20 UTC 2011


Ashley,

That is...  an amazing post!!! God bless America!

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>,"National Association of Blind 
Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:18:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

Hi Nimer,
Good post.  And this will probably be the last I'll say.
You included Fox and MSNBC in your points which makes your point 
more
nonpartisan.

You're right.
"We should honor their memories by not allowing any individual to
terrorize America or its interests.  And we should do it quick 
before
the terrorists hit again.  This nation needs unity, not division.  
Bill
Orily and Rachel Madow are puppets who spout opinions.  It 
doesn't
matter whom you like, both of them are opinionated and they heir 
those
opinions to the masses.  If you let yourself not think freely and 
get
dragged in by either side's opinionators, then you deserve every
inconvenience this government could possibly hand you.  That's 
the
problem we have now.  People have stopped using their brains and
trusting their instincts and instead relying on msnbc or fox news 
to
tell them what's going on.  "

Yes that is true.  We need to use our brains when forming 
opinions.
We need to think for ourselves and not just unquestionly follow 
someone who
spouts opinions.  Read several news sources; listen to C-span to 
hear
congress firsthand.


I was going to write something like that, but you said it better 
than me.  My
intent in bringing this up was to find out what you all did 
personally or
publicly to remember 9/11.  With over 200 subscribers, some of 
you probably
lost a loved one in this tragedy.
We should integrate into society and do what other Americans are 
doing to
commemerate the anniversary.
I was trying to keep politics out of it.
Whether conservative or liberal, Christian or not, no one wants 
this tragedy
again; no one but that is our enemies here and abroad.  Anyone 
who wants to
kill innocent Americans is our enemy and has no business here.


My brother lost  a friend and I know a blind guy that had to 
evacuate the
pentagon.  Thankfully he got out safely in the confusion.
I remember that I was in school that morning as a senior when I 
got the
news.  Many of you were children or teens and perhaps don't feel 
much of
anything about the event since you were safe with family.
This 9/11 I prayed more and watched more news and watched the 
memorial
concert held here in DC at the kennedy center.  I am commited to 
do some sort
of service project for 9/11.

I hope most of us can get past the political rhetoric and show 
our
patriotism and show love for America.
I mean getting out there and doing normal things is what changing 
what it
means to be blind is about.
Some campuses are holding vigils or doing volunteer service 
projects.
Many religious groups are doing something too.  So whatever you 
did, I hope
you at least took time to remember the tragedy; something as 
simple as a
moment of silence is useful.

Let us go forward peacefully.  God bless America.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nimer M.  Jaber, IC³
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:41 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

Robin, Carly and all,

Ten years ago this country went through an attack of greater 
magnitude
than anyone can know or comprehend if they weren't directly 
impacted.
Sure, everyone has to go through airport screenings now and 
people
feel inconvenienced, but I guaran-damn-tee you that if another 
attack
on the scale of what happened ten years ago happened today, 
nobody
would be complaining for a few years until another generation 
comes
along and starts getting complacent.  We should remember those 
who
died.  We should honor their memories by not allowing any 
individual to
terrorize America or its interests.  And we should do it quick 
before
the terrorists hit again.  This nation needs unity, not division.  
Bill
Orily and Rachel Madow are puppets who spout opinions.  It 
doesn't
matter whom you like, both of them are opinionated and they heir 
those
opinions to the masses.  If you let yourself not think freely and 
get
dragged in by either side's opinionators, then you deserve every
inconvenience this government could possibly hand you.  That's 
the
problem we have now.  People have stopped using their brains and
trusting their instincts and instead relying on msnbc or fox news 
to
tell them what's going on.  Or maybe twitter.  If you don't like 
what
the United States is doing to other nations and you think the US
should be soft because maybe you think that somehow other nations 
are
just going to back down and forget the US exists, then you've got
another reality coming to you.  If you don't like the United 
States'
actions against its enemies who are hell-bent on our destruction, 
then
please, leave this country and don't return.  If you need 
transport,
please let me know and I'm sure we can work out an arrangement.  
Just
surrender your passport to me when you leave, OK? And if you join 
or
affiliate yourself with a group that wants to destroy the US of 
A,
then don't be too surprised if you run into some problems if you 
take
any action against us.

Thanks, and I apologize to the mods of this list for helping 
continue
this off-topic thread.

On 12.09.2011, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:


 Hi, Ashley,

 Is it me, or does an idea persist that for a mere
 fact that those who suffred on 9/11 happened to
 be American in nationality or white in
 race,  somehow make it more of a tragedy? As I
 have said, America murders innocents  in it's
 drone and other atacks (for the uninitiated,
 drone attacks refer to a methodical killing via a
 machine), on a daily freaking basis yet, who can
 cry for those so unfortunate as to not be born American, or 
white?
 And J.  Lester I have absolutely ZERO interest in
 watching a blow hard like Bill O'Reilly even if
 it remains a perscription of your's.
   OOryleAt 08:04 PM 9/11/2011, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
Carley, Yes lives are lost due to American
military actions.  Whether fighting where we do
is right or wrong is a political comment so  I
will not go there.  But two wrongs do not make a
right.  The fact is we have terrorists out there
who want to destroy us even though we did not
touch them.  Remember 911 was a peaceful calm
day.  Everyone was at work or school going about
their normal business.  Then without warning, we
had these morning attacks.  They attacked us and
there was dying for no reason.  They killed
innocent people.  I was watching the news tonight
and it highlighted the stories of children,
first responders, journalists and survivors.  For
instance one lady is now going to college, but
as a kid, she was impacted.  Her mother worked in
the pentagon and died that day.  She spoke about
having to grow up fast and take on more adult
responsibilities.  She had to put her college
degree on hold.  Instead she got a job to help
she and her family out.  She tried to be strong
and hide her feelings as she became the woman of
the house to replace her mother.  Now she goes to
school online and is a part time singer.  She
still misses her mother, but tries to go on with
life with her dad and remaining family; after
all, her mom would want that.  That is just one
story-- one girl whose life was changed forever.
Many kids lost a parent in the attack; others
lost their spouse.  Oh, and I know a blind
employee who was there and had to evacuate from
the pentagon.  He felt lost outside a different
exit and it was a mob scene.  Someone assisted
him outside to find the bus stop or something.  I
was glad he got out safely.  So that is something
to think about.  Of course you are entitled to
your opinion.  But I hope we can aknowledge the
suffering the country went through as well as
the innocent people who die every day here and
abroad.  Ashley -----Original Message----- From:
Carly Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:24 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students
mailing list ; National Association of Blind
Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
reflecting on the attacks Good afternoon, List,
Just because Americans were the souls who
perished in the blasts, the universe is somehow,
expected to change? Folks die daily usually at
the hands of American interests.  Imagine the
scales of life, finding equivalence?At 12:26 PM
9/11/2011, Ashley Bramlett wrote: >Hi all, We
all have varying views on how to address safety
and security.  >But somehow, some way, those
terrorists got through.  We were attacked
a >decade ago.  I was finishing a class in high
school when I heard the news.  >School was closed
the next day.  Our school had an assembly where
the choir, >band, and other groups performed to
commemorate 9/11.  I hope that we all >take a
moment to reflect on it.  I will be praying for
our country and >everyone̢۪s safety/security
on the anniversary.  Iâ€â¢â‚¬â„¢m a Christian so
I >have faith that we will grow stronger as a
nation.  If you had a loved one >impacted by the
attack, I hope you recovered somewhat from the
tragedy.  >Some pray in churches, others are
going to public memorials today and
still >others will do volunteer service to serve
the country.  If you are doing >anything
different or special, I hope it goes well for
you.  Take care.  >Ashley
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