[nabs-l] school is not accommodating

Mon Jan 23 22:31:39 UTC 2012

but is eloquence free? I find dec talk hard to understand. Don't know about 
the default synthesizer you speak of.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 5:00 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating

It uses a different synthesizer, called eSpeak as default, but
you can get Eloquence versions for it.  I personally don't like
eSpeak, so use either Eloquence or DecTalk for NVDA.

Chris

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:59:18 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating

good idea; does nvda sound like jaws and where is the website?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating

Ashley:
Why not ask them to go to NVDA's Website, and download it on
every computer?
They don't need licenses, with NVDA.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/22/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
Amy,
I am pretty sure I will get a laptop; I'll share it with my dad
though.
They
can get expensive, so its best if more than one person use it.
As for mobility, I did receive an orientation by a mobility
instructor.
Also, my parents helped me out.  But its just that the new
student union
building with the bookstore, student caf?and more in it is laid
out
weird;
its not a  particular shape; just a lot of open space.  I'll do
the best I
can with it though.  The counseling center is in a corner so it
shouldn't
be
too hard to find.

I'm looking for readers as well.  So looks like I'll have to
make my own
accomodations.  However, I still will plan to speak to whomever
purchased
jaws; someone in the office of the vice president.  I find it
rediculous
they
don't have enough licenses; I'm not going to be the last legally
blind
student there.

Another drawback to just using my own equipment is that there is
learning
software and databases in the tutoring center and career center.
If I use
my
own equipment, those programs are not on it.
I'm sure if I request jaws in the career center, I will get the
same story
about licenses.  groan.

Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Sabo
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:21 AM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating

Dear Ashley,
I'm sorry that you are having difficulties with your situations
and
problems
at a community college.  I too had some of these same problems
myself when
I
began my college experience way back in 2000 where I began at a
community
college in Michigan.  And, here's what I had to do in dealing
with all of
these problems relating to yours.

As to the mobility situation on your campus I didn't have any o
and m
training even though I had asked the mi commission for some I
didn't
receive
any at all.  So, what I did was try to learn as much on my own
by asking
many
questions and, also asking other students for sighted assistance
and, then
I
knew where to go.  I also had my parents or a sighted friend who
was in one
of my classes show me around the campus.  So, those are 2 ideas
on getting
around your community college independtally.  As for your it
class I would
get a laptop.  I had a voicenote when I was at my community
college which
was
helpful but, it didn't do everything that I needed for my
classes so, a
laptop is sooo much beneficial in working on the job and, also
for
college.
And, you can have your own copy of jfw on it and, you don't have
to rely
on
the dss office or the school's version or wait for their
licenses of it
for
the keys.  You said that you don't want to lug a large laptop
around campus
well, I used a roller bag for it and, it worked out fine or put
it in a
laptop bag for a backpack or messenger bag which is available
for purchase
all major stores.  Or, you can purchase a netbook which is
smaller than a
laptop and, it works great with jfw.  My sister has one as a
matter of fact
it's her second one to be certain of that!

As for the school's web site not being accessible with jfw have
you
advised
the dss office of this? If yes or no then send a friendly email
of your
concerns and frustrations to the webmaster of the school's web
site.

As for the cd for the textbook or other materials that you are
using what
format is it in? as for all of the it books try to get them in a
accessible
format on your own or get the dss office to assist you? When I
began at my
community college this happened to me and, I had to scan my
books on my
own
or have a reader or a family member be my reader for me.

Besides rfbd there's other resources like bookshare or nls to
name a few.

So, there are many resources and ideas that I have given to you.
I hope
that
you can use them to your advantage.  Take care and good luck!

Hugs,
amy

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:14 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating

Hi all,

Just want to vent.  My school doesn’t seem very accomodating and
they’re
the
largest community college in the commonwealth.  Yo They got over
five
campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.

I’m just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and
figured
extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work.  No
one’s hiring
so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.

First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any
texts.  I am
still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member
can read
meanwhile til I find a reader at school.  If the publisher won’t
give us
the
e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!

Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before.  The
instructor
wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me
the
steps.
Hmm.  Maybe I need a laptop.  But I hate the idea of lugging the
thing
around!
They tell us they don’t have enough licenses; um how absurd.
They need
lots
of them.  what if another blind student needs jaws in a
classroom lab?

Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource
to get it
brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to
braille
tests!

Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff
and
counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks.  I bet
its not ADA
compliant.  I don’t know though.  Its certainly confusing for a
blind
traveler.  Sighted people get lost until they’ve been there a
lot since its
not laid out well.

Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class
too.
Publishers need to get with the program!

Ashley
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