[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Fri Jul 13 02:27:18 UTC 2012

I'm all for what you're saying, Mr Jacobson.
I'm just not wanting an explissit how-to course, which is unnecessary, (IMO.)
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/12/12, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that we're straying off the real issue here.  I'm an old guy,
> so what do I know, but it seems the issue is whether we as blind people
> could get
> more specific and  correct information about the human anatomy than we
> generally get now as we grow up.  To me, the issue is how could we get more
>
> meaningful information without having it all turned into some kind of circus
> in the process.  I'm at least going to take a look at the survey to see what
>
> exactly they are getting at.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:39:26 -0500, Sophie Trist wrote:
>
>>Brandon, it's not that we're not tought how to be happy, give
>>pleasure, and all that other stuff. It's just that... well, no
>>offense, but most of that stuff you said was a little gross. I
>>mean, I reeeeeeeeally don't need to know if there's a couple
>>making out in front of me on the bus. I can get descriptions of
>>that stuff from books. And those are plenty descriptive enough
>>for me, thanks. Of course, this is just my humble opinion.
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:46:05 -0700
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
>>Hello,
>>Sighted people are exposed to sex all the time, haven't you heard
>>of playboy
>>or penthouse? Also, what about those people making out on the
>>bus? Or the
>>gay couple walking down the sidewalk in skirts and bikini? All
>>that we miss
>>because we're blind.
>>Books are grate, but you can only learn so much from a manual.
>>Sighted kids
>>get pictures, we should get to feel. Also, how is a blind person
>>supposed to
>>know they have an STD if they have never felt one? How do they
>>know it's not
>>just a cut or dehydration?
>>Sighted people are given extensive viewings of the peaness and
>>vagina in
>>class or in pictures, why can't blind people get the same?
>>Frankly I believe that the art of giving pleasure has become such
>>a
>>suppressed skill that people have even resorted to substance
>>abuse to obtain
>>pleasure. Our bodies were meant to give us pleasure, why aren't
>>we taught to
>>utilize these pleasure factories? What's the meaning of life? To
>>love and be
>>happy! Why aren't we taught to be happy, to give pleasure, to
>>love our
>>selves in school?
>>It's a fundamental wrong that I find is a crime against the words
>>human
>>beings, but that's kind of a different issue.
>>But if this curriculum is any bit good, teachers will adopt it
>>instead of
>>the droll thing they have now.
>
>>btw what about feeling a condom, diaphragm or dental dam? How is
>>a blind
>>person supposed to know what one looks like if they haven't felt
>>one or
>>tried it on? Also, how does a blind person shop for
>>contraception's?
>>Me: "Next on my list is condoms." Walgreens guy: "OK, what brand
>>do you
>>want? Durex, Trojan, Crown, Kimono..." Me: "Uh, what's your
>>favorite?"
>>Walgreens guy: "Most people get Trojan, what size do you want?
>>We've got
>>small, medium, large and extra large. We've also got narrow and
>>wide. Here
>>are some flavors as well..."
>
>>That's just a wall greens guy who is comfortable, what if it's
>>one of the
>>really shy ladies who doesn't speak English? Sighted people can
>>be
>>unobtrusive and just buy the condom or diaphragm along with their
>>lube where
>>as a blind person has to know what questions to ask and know what
>>brands to
>>get. I learned what questions to ask when shopping by watching my
>>parents,
>>but I've never seen my parents buy condoms.
>>It's a serious issue and this program will help address those
>>problems. And
>>what about masturbation? I've rarely read a book where
>>masturbation is
>>talked about and I've read a lot of books! How does a guy
>>masturbate without
>>making a mess?
>>Sex Ed is not just about a sperm and an egg get together to form
>>a baby,
>>that's more science.
>>Sex Ed is about sex and it's an issue that blind people fall way
>>short in
>>when it comes to being educated along with their fellow students.
>>Thanks,
>
>>Brandon Keith Biggs
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Herrin, Amber R.
>>Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:40 AM
>>To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
>>Dear Joshua,
>
>>I have to agree with you here!  For me, the idea of knowing about
>>sex,
>>before I'm sharing it with my husband, is kind of...unnecessary,
>>I guess?
>>Maybe the wrong answer, and I understand that not everyone
>>believes you
>>should wait until marriage as I do, but I think that being blind
>>doesn't
>>prevent us from finding out about it the same way sighted people
>>do-experiment (isn't that what most people do anyway?) or read
>>books written
>>on the topic (how confusing can text be?)
>
>>Amber R. Herrin
>>Assistive Technology Trainer in Training: 2012
>>Mobile: (513) 593-5855
>>E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
>>"It doesn't matter what you've heard
>>Impossible is not a word
>>It's just a reason
>>For someone not to try
>
>>Everybody's scared to death
>>When they decide to take that step
>>Out on the water
>>It'll be alright
>
>>Life is so much more
>>Than what your eyes are seeing
>>You will find your way
>>If you keep believing"
>>-Kutless "What Faith Can Do"
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>Of Joshua Lester
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:35 PM
>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
>>I personally did fine, in those courses, in school, without the
>>new proposed
>>curriculum, that they're wanting.
>>I don't see the need for one, because who really wants to know,
>>what's being
>>shown, in those slides?
>>Good grief!
>>Blessings, Joshua
>
>>On 7/11/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been asked to circulate the following:
>
>
>> Dave
>
>
>
>
>>Dear NFB Member,
>>The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to
>>help
>>us with a current project.
>
>>We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help
>>us
>>write a curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in
>>the
>>area of sex education.  Currently no curriculum exists for
>>students
>>with low vision and blindness that reflect current education
>>standards.  Young people, educators, and professionals have all
>>indicated that there is a desperate need for such a curriculum.
>>We want your voice to impact our work!
>>Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found
>>below:
>><https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.su
>>rveym
>>onkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
>
>><https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=ht
>>tps:/
>>/www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
>
>
>
>>Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
>>Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan
>
>
>
>>Thank you,
>>Mika Baugh
>>National Federation of the Blind
>>200 East Wells Street
>>      at Jernigan Place
>>Baltimore, MD 21230
>>P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371
>>E: <mailto:mbaugh at nfb.org>mbaugh at nfb.org
>>W: <http://www.nfb.org>www.nfb.org
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