[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Thu Jul 19 02:12:07 UTC 2012

Nimer,
Thanks for telling me about this.
Anmol
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
Hellen Keller

--- On Wed, 7/18/12, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 9:00 PM
> Hello,
> 
> They got rid of those apartments for rent as of last August,
> and they
> now have everyone living on campus.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On 7/18/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Desiree,
> > I could be wrong about this since I have not been there
> for a while and the
> > things I know about World Services is what I have heard
> from my friends, but
> > as I understand World Services has contract with an
> apartment complex near
> > the center that their clients can rent and I think
> state may pay for it
> > instead of paying for room and board while they are
> going through their
> > training. Again I could be wrong, but Amber or someone
> who has been their
> > recently.
> >
> > Anmol
> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
> make me sad. Perhaps
> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
> vague, like a breeze
> > among flowers.
> > Hellen Keller
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
> Training Programs
> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list"
> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 11:05 PM
> >> Hi all,
> >> As I see it, the job training at this center is
> probably its
> >> only
> >> strong point. You have to remember, though, that
> most people
> >> are going
> >> to live on campus unless they have family or
> friends in
> >> Arkansas that
> >> they can stay with, so they can commute every day.
> If not,
> >> what are
> >> they going to do, find an apartment, only to vacate
> it in 6
> >> months? I
> >> don't think so, it doesn't work that way. flexible
> leases
> >> aren't that
> >> easy to come by. So honestly, its a shame that the
> center is
> >> as badly
> >> run as it is. I considered going there myself for
> the
> >> computer
> >> networking certification, but changed my mind after
> hearing
> >> stories
> >> very similar to the opinions that have been
> expressed here.
> >> As I said,
> >> it's definitely a shame that this is the only
> center that
> >> has such a
> >> good track record with placing the blind in
> profitable
> >> employment.
> >> Other centers should exist for this purpose as
> well. For one
> >> place to
> >> carry all the load is a little unfair. Considering
> how high
> >> the
> >> unemployment rate for the blind is, imagine how
> much farther
> >> along we
> >> would get if even several states had a center of
> this
> >> nature.
> >>
> >> On 7/17/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Anmol,
> >> > excellent post. WSB does have a good IRS
> program. Also,
> >> the entrance
> >> > requirements were on the website and I hope
> they still
> >> are.
> >> > You have to have good technology skills as
> well as
> >> decent educational skills
> >> > to get in. Since you will work for the
> government, they
> >> require you to be a
> >> > US citizen, able to  pass a drug test, and
> be
> >> willing to relocate. They also
> >> > find you a job after your training. I was at a
> job fair
> >> and know who I ran
> >> > into?
> >> > An IRS rep! He said if I wanted to get a job
> into that
> >> agency, going to WSB
> >> > was a good idea. He said they get students
> from there
> >> all the time and that
> >> > the next class containing 30 students was
> starting
> >> soon.
> >> >
> >> > If you're thinking of going, you have to weigh
> the pros
> >> and cons. Also, I
> >> > can definitely see why rehab would send
> clients there;
> >> they gaurantee a job
> >> > afterward. As Anmol said, this is appealing
> because
> >> more successful case
> >> > closures mean they keep the funding they
> have.
> >> > Ashley
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Anmol Bhatia
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:10 PM
> >> > To: National Association of Blind Students
> mailing
> >> list
> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> Employment
> >> Training Programs
> >> >
> >> > Know Arielle I suspect WSB as a whole does not
> belong
> >> to any organization.
> >> > They try to remain neutral and WSB actually
> had a table
> >> at the exhabit hall
> >> > at the NFB convention. I am not a big fan of
> WSB to the
> >> extend that some on
> >> > this list might think I am, however, I do not
> like
> >> reading some of the
> >> > comments I read on here from people who do
> not
> >> necessarly know all the
> >> > facts.
> >> > The things Amber has mentioned are valid and
> credible
> >> because she is there
> >> > now. If I were considering attending WSB, I
> would
> >> seriously take into
> >> > consideration the things she mentioned.
> However, WSB
> >> does have an employment
> >> > track and it is easier for Rehab Counselors to
> send
> >> clients to a training
> >> > center which can lead to employment like the
> WSB rather
> >> than an independent
> >> > living training center like the NFB training
> centers
> >> that do a good job in
> >> > providing independent living training, but do
> not lead
> >> to employment. I
> >> > personally understand the value of how
> independent
> >> living training is
> >> > important in being successful in employment
> and most
> >> rehab counselors do as
> >> > well, but we have to justify how we are
> spending the
> >> tax payer money to
> >> > largely ignorent sighted society who do not
> necessarly
> >> see the value of
> >> > independent training for a blind person.
> >> > To answer the question, the IRS is a promising
> job that
> >> pays the starting
> >> > salarry of $45,000 I think with growth
> opportunity. So
> >> you have to decide if
> >> > you want to put up with some of the things
> mentioned:
> >> bad food, unclean
> >> > building, ect for 6 to 9 months and have a
> good job
> >> after that.
> >> > Anmol
> >> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they
> never
> >> make me sad. Perhaps
> >> > there is just a touch of yearning at times;
> but it is
> >> vague, like a breeze
> >> > among flowers.
> >> > Hellen Keller
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> Employment
> >> Training Programs
> >> >> To: "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing
> >> list"
> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:22 PM
> >> >> I suspect that certain students or
> >> >> staff at WSB are ACB members and
> >> >> try to recruit, but that the WSB itself
> doesn't
> >> have a
> >> >> particular
> >> >> organizational position.
> >> >> Arielle
> >> >>
> >> >> On 7/17/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Thank you Dave for pointing out that
> the
> >> Little Rock
> >> >> chapter of the NFB
> >> >> > meets at World Services for the
> Blind. Josh,
> >> if
> >> >> according to you they try so
> >> >> > hard to recruit students to the ACB,
> then why
> >> do they
> >> >> allow the NFB meet in
> >> >> > their building and the local chapter
> of the
> >> ACB does
> >> >> not meet there?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anmol
> >> >> > I seldom think about my limitations,
> and they
> >> never
> >> >> make me sad. Perhaps
> >> >> > there is just a touch of yearning at
> times;
> >> but it is
> >> >> vague, like a breeze
> >> >> > among flowers.
> >> >> > Hellen Keller
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester
> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little
> Rock
> >> Employment
> >> >> Training Programs
> >> >> >> To: "National Association of
> Blind
> >> Students mailing
> >> >> list"
> >> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012,
> 12:25 PM
> >> >> >> I'm going to attend LCB, after
> >> >> >> graduating from college.
> >> >> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hello Joshua and everyone,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >     Let' sleet
> >> her decide if she
> >> >> >> would benefit from a complete
> training
> >> >> >> > program or not. All three
> NFB centers
> >> have
> >> >> >> employment-related assistance
> and
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > offer training in several
> specific
> >> areas. Have
> >> >> you been
> >> >> >> to an NFB center
> >> >> >> > yourself?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Peter Donahue
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message
> -----
> >> >> >> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >> >> >> > To: "National Association of
> Blind
> >> Students
> >> >> mailing
> >> >> >> list"
> >> >> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012
> 11:01
> >> AM
> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB
> Little
> >> Rock
> >> >> Employment
> >> >> >> Training Programs
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She has the skills to take
> care of
> >> herself.
> >> >> >> > She needs job training.
> >> >> >> > Is there an NFB sponsored
> ATI
> >> program?
> >> >> >> > Thanks, Joshua
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue
> <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Good morning everyone,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>     LWSB,
> >> formerly the Arkansas
> >> >> >> Enterprises for the Blind has had
> a long
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> checkered history
> concerning its
> >> treatment
> >> >> of the
> >> >> >> blind persons it claims
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> serve. The conditions
> you
> >> describe have
> >> >> existed
> >> >> >> there for many years. At
> >> >> >> >> one
> >> >> >> >> time it was accredited
> by the
> >> National
> >> >> >> Accreditation Council for
> Agencies
> >> >> >> >> Serving the Blind and
> Physically
> >> >> Handicapped (NAC.)
> >> >> >> Its former blind
> >> >> >> >> director was a key
> figure in NAC.
> >> NAC had
> >> >> a
> >> >> >> reputation for condoning
> >> >> >> >> practices that often led
> to blind
> >> persons
> >> >> being
> >> >> >> abused, mistreated, and
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> the case of sheltered
> workshops
> >> being paid
> >> >> less
> >> >> >> than the Federal minimum
> >> >> >> >> wage. NAC'S so-called
> "Standards
> >> of
> >> >> Accreditation"
> >> >> >> failed to address
> >> >> >> >> these
> >> >> >> >> issues. For example the
> standards
> >> called
> >> >> for the
> >> >> >> agency's grounds to be
> >> >> >> >> pleasant but did not
> require the
> >> >> sheltered
> >> >> >> workshops they accredited to
> >> >> >> >> pay
> >> >> >> >> all employees including
> the
> >> blind
> >> >> employees the
> >> >> >> Federal minimum wage.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>     In 1985
> >> NAC held its annual
> >> >> >> meeting in Littlerock and the NFB
> was
> >> >> >> >> there
> >> >> >> >> to "Greet" them. Both
> the then
> >> Arkansas
> >> >> Enterprises
> >> >> >> for the Blind and the
> >> >> >> >> Arkansas School for the
> Blind
> >> were
> >> >> picketed by the
> >> >> >> NFB. While at AEB a
> >> >> >> >> number of AEB clients
> told us
> >> that there
> >> >> were
> >> >> >> problems and that it needed
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> be investigated. I know
> because
> >> Mary and I
> >> >> were on
> >> >> >> that picket line.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>     Judging
> >> from what I've read
> >> >> >> NAC for practical purposes is
> gone but
> >> >> >> >> vestiges of its evil
> doings
> >> remain at
> >> >> agencies such
> >> >> >> as LWSB. Amber here's
> >> >> >> >> hoping you will
> eventually attend
> >> an NFB
> >> >> training
> >> >> >> center. These centers
> >> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >> a big cut above anything
> else out
> >> there.
> >> >> All the
> >> >> >> best.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Peter Donahue
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett"
> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> >> >> >> >> To: "National
> Association of
> >> Blind
> >> >> Students mailing
> >> >> >> list"
> >> >> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16,
> 2012 11:33
> >> PM
> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
> LWSB Little
> >> Rock
> >> >> Employment
> >> >> >> Training Programs
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Amber,
> >> >> >> >> Well, my goodness. I'd
> have to
> >> say first
> >> >> that I
> >> >> >> commend your efforts in
> >> >> >> >> sticking to the facts or
> trying
> >> to. I
> >> >> think you did
> >> >> >> a good job for
> >> >> >> >> someone
> >> >> >> >> who did not have a good
> >> experience.  I've
> >> >> also
> >> >> >> heard bad rumors about it.
> >> >> >> >> Second, with all this
> publicity,
> >> I'm real
> >> >> surprised
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> LWSB continues to stay
> open and
> >> attracting
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> clients it does.
> >> >> >> >> Which program were you
> in?
> >> Independent
> >> >> living? or a
> >> >> >> job program?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> About rules, personally
> signing
> >> in and out
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> >> bother me. You are in
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> training setting and
> with this
> >> litigious
> >> >> society,
> >> >> >> they need to account
> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> everyone. What if there
> was an
> >> emergency?
> >> >> They need
> >> >> >> to know where
> >> >> >> >> everyone
> >> >> >> >> is. People go missing
> everyday
> >> and are
> >> >> never found.
> >> >> >> Youwouldn't want your
> >> >> >> >> parents or friends or
> family
> >> calling and
> >> >> them
> >> >> >> saying, oh, we do not know
> >> >> >> >> where your son is;  he
> may
> >> be on campus
> >> >> or
> >> >> >> not.
> >> >> >> >> The other thing about
> the no
> >> microwave or
> >> >> fridge
> >> >> >> would bother me. As a
> >> >> >> >> college student, I
> enjoyed having
> >> my own
> >> >> fridge in
> >> >> >> my room.
> >> >> >> >> It gave me some freedom
> to have a
> >> cold
> >> >> drink or
> >> >> >> cold snack when I wanted
> >> >> >> >> to.
> >> >> >> >> Since the cafeteria
> closed early
> >> at 7:30,
> >> >> this was
> >> >> >> definitely nice.
> >> >> >> >> That seems early to me
> given the
> >> fact that
> >> >> I eat
> >> >> >> late at home; between 7
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> 8pm.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Anyway, Amber you are
> making a
> >> good
> >> >> personal
> >> >> >> decision to leave. So I wish
> >> >> >> >> you luck in your next
> decision to
> >> find
> >> >> decent
> >> >> >> training or whatever you
> >> >> >> >> need.
> >> >> >> >> I don't remember your
> intro to
> >> us, so I'm
> >> >> not sure
> >> >> >> if you are a current
> >> >> >> >> college student or
> recent grad.
> >> >> >> >> If you haven't finished
> school, I
> >> hope you
> >> >> can as
> >> >> >> it opens up more doors
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> you.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Ashley
> >> >> >> >> -----Original
> Message-----
> >> >> >> >> From: Herrin, Amber R.
> >> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16,
> 2012 10:36
> >> PM
> >> >> >> >> To: 'National
> Association of
> >> Blind
> >> >> Students mailing
> >> >> >> list'
> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
> LWSB Little
> >> Rock
> >> >> Employment
> >> >> >> Training Programs
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Ian,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I am currently at WSB,
> but am
> >> planning to
> >> >> leave on
> >> >> >> Friday.  Here is what
> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> have experienced.  I
> will do
> >> my best to
> >> >> give
> >> >> >> only facts and not color
> >> >> >> >> those
> >> >> >> >> facts with my opinion,
> though
> >> before I
> >> >> begin, I
> >> >> >> will clearly state that
> >> >> >> >> if
> >> >> >> >> you are asking for an
> opinion as
> >> to
> >> >> whether or not
> >> >> >> one should attend this
> >> >> >> >> program in order to
> obtain a job,
> >> I would
> >> >> have to
> >> >> >> say no.  But I am not
> >> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> >> or anyone else for that
> matter,
> >> and what I
> >> >> have
> >> >> >> experienced here has
> >> >> >> >> colored
> >> >> >> >> my opinion, and may not
> be very
> >> reliable.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The facts:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> *Several students
> (including
> >> myself) have
> >> >> had
> >> >> >> valuables go missing.
> >> >> >> >> *The food does not seem
> to meet
> >> health and
> >> >> safety
> >> >> >> codes. (just one
> >> >> >> >> example-there are
> many-one
> >> evening we had
> >> >> chicken
> >> >> >> wings, and though the
> >> >> >> >> outside was hot, the
> inside was
> >> not.  I
> >> >> would
> >> >> >> not mention this, except
> >> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> >> is not an isolated
> incident.)
> >> >> >> >> *The showers have light
> >> bulbs  (not
> >> >> protected
> >> >> >> by any kind of panels)
> >> >> >> >> inside
> >> >> >> >> the actual stall where
> water
> >> could be
> >> >> accidentally
> >> >> >> splashed.  I brought
> >> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> >> up as a concern, so they
> put a
> >> cover over
> >> >> mine, but
> >> >> >> mine is not the only
> >> >> >> >> one
> >> >> >> >> that this is the case
> with (as
> >> confirmed
> >> >> by other
> >> >> >> clients.)
> >> >> >> >> *Despite several
> complaints from
> >> many
> >> >> clients, the
> >> >> >> building is full of
> >> >> >> >> bugs.
> >> >> >> >> They say that someone
> comes
> >> regularly to
> >> >> spray, but
> >> >> >> bugs were found even
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> my room, and I am a very
> clean
> >> person.
> >> >> (read as, do
> >> >> >> not leave food in
> >> >> >> >> uncealed containers or
> dishes
> >> with food
> >> >> still on
> >> >> >> them etc.)
> >> >> >> >> *Clients are unable to
> have
> >> microwaves or
> >> >> >> refrigerators in their rooms,
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> so are reduced to
> coolers full of
> >> ice or
> >> >> nothing at
> >> >> >> all except cafeteria
> >> >> >> >> food.  There are
> microwaves
> >> that
> >> >> physically
> >> >> >> exist, but they do not work
> >> >> >> >> very
> >> >> >> >> well.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Now I can say that there
> are
> >> other things
> >> >> I could
> >> >> >> talk about, but they
> >> >> >> >> probably come down to
> personal
> >> preference
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> really are just normal
> >> >> >> >> inconveniences that one
> would
> >> encounter on
> >> >> any
> >> >> >> college dorm, except they
> >> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >> exaggerated because of
> the fact
> >> that
> >> >> everything is
> >> >> >> scaled down hugely.
> >> >> >> >> So
> >> >> >> >> while, for example, on
> most
> >> college
> >> >> campuses, you
> >> >> >> could go to a dining
> >> >> >> >> hall
> >> >> >> >> at almost any time of
> day, if you
> >> do not
> >> >> come to
> >> >> >> meals at the times
> >> >> >> >> specified, you don't
> eat
> >> meals.  I am
> >> >> sure
> >> >> >> that anyone can argue that
> >> >> >> >> when
> >> >> >> >> in school, you have to
> work with
> >> a
> >> >> particular
> >> >> >> schedule, and while this is
> >> >> >> >> true to some extent, I
> do take
> >> issue with
> >> >> the fact
> >> >> >> that we can't even
> >> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> microwaves or
> refrigerators in
> >> our rooms
> >> >> so that we
> >> >> >> may maintain the
> >> >> >> >> schedules that are most
> >> comfortable for
> >> >> us.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The last thing I mention
> is a
> >> large thing
> >> >> and may
> >> >> >> not affect anyone, but
> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> feel I must mention it,
> because
> >> if I did
> >> >> not, I
> >> >> >> would be doing a great
> >> >> >> >> disservice to anyone
> considering
> >> attending
> >> >> this
> >> >> >> center.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Two weeks ago this
> Friday, I was
> >> groped by
> >> >> an
> >> >> >> authority figure.  He was
> >> >> >> >> picking me up from the
> airport,
> >> and I was
> >> >> >> approaching the baggage claim
> >> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> >> a female passenger from
> my
> >> flight.  This
> >> >> >> authority figure approached me
> >> >> >> >> without announcing
> himself, put
> >> his arm
> >> >> around my
> >> >> >> waist, hugged me to
> >> >> >> >> himself in a tight,
> possessive
> >> manner, and
> >> >> told the
> >> >> >> female passenger who
> >> >> >> >> had
> >> >> >> >> offered to walk with me
> that he
> >> "had it
> >> >> under
> >> >> >> control from there, but
> >> >> >> >> thanks."  After which,
> he
> >> looked down at
> >> >> me
> >> >> >> and said, "How was your trip,
> >> >> >> >> Punkin?  We've missed
> >> you!  We're so
> >> >> glad
> >> >> >> you're home!"
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> This man did not
> announce himself
> >> to me in
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> beginning, should have
> >> >> >> >> been
> >> >> >> >> treating me
> professionally, is
> >> old enough
> >> >> to be my
> >> >> >> father, and possibly
> >> >> >> >> even
> >> >> >> >> my grandfather, has
> only
> >> interacted with
> >> >> me
> >> >> >> minimally since my arrival at
> >> >> >> >> the center, I'm 24, etc
> etc etc.
> >> >> Basically,
> >> >> >> it was wayyy wayyyy beyond
> >> >> >> >> what
> >> >> >> >> one would call
> professional or
> >> even
> >> >> acceptable
> >> >> >> regardless of setting.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I cannot tell you
> whether to
> >> attend this
> >> >> center;
> >> >> >> only you can decide that
> >> >> >> >> for yourself.  What I
> can
> >> tell you is
> >> >> that the
> >> >> >> man who did this to me was
> >> >> >> >> reported by me, and, I
> have
> >> discovered,
> >> >> has been
> >> >> >> reported multiple times
> >> >> >> >> by
> >> >> >> >> other females that he
> has
> >> violated in one
> >> >> way or
> >> >> >> another, and still holds
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> job here.  I believe
> there
> >> is something
> >> >> big
> >> >> >> going on here that I am
> >> >> >> >> unaware
> >> >> >> >> of, and am only glad to
> be
> >> leaving.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have met some truly
> wonderful
> >> people
> >> >> here, but
> >> >> >> regardless of that, I
> >> >> >> >> could
> >> >> >> >> never suggest that
> someone attend
> >> here.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I hope this helps you
> make your
> >> >> decision.  If
> >> >> >> it does not, please know
> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> I wish you all the
> best.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Amber R. Herrin
> >> >> >> >> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
> >> >> >> >> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
> >> >> >> >> "It doesn't matter what
> you've
> >> heard
> >> >> >> >> Impossible is not a
> word
> >> >> >> >> It's just a reason
> >> >> >> >> For someone not to try
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Everybody's scared to
> death
> >> >> >> >> When they decide to take
> that
> >> step
> >> >> >> >> Out on the water
> >> >> >> >> It'll be alright
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Life is so much more
> >> >> >> >> Than what your eyes are
> seeing
> >> >> >> >> You will find your way
> >> >> >> >> If you keep believing"
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> -----Original
> Message-----
> >> >> >> >> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> >> >> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> >> >> On
> >> >> >> >> Behalf
> >> >> >> >> Of Anmol Bhatia
> >> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16,
> 2012 4:49
> >> PM
> >> >> >> >> To: National Association
> of Blind
> >> Students
> >> >> mailing
> >> >> >> list
> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
> LWSB Little
> >> Rock
> >> >> Employment
> >> >> >> Training Programs
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Ian,
> >> >> >> >> I have never attended
> LWSB as a
> >> trainny,
> >> >> but I used
> >> >> >> to go there on to
> >> >> >> >> stay
> >> >> >> >> during weekends in the
> 1990s. The
> >> only
> >> >> thing I can
> >> >> >> say is that LWSB has
> >> >> >> >> made
> >> >> >> >> alot of changes last
> couple of
> >> years and I
> >> >> would
> >> >> >> think about visiting
> >> >> >> >> there
> >> >> >> >> before deciding one way
> or the
> >> other. They
> >> >> do have
> >> >> >> an option to live off
> >> >> >> >> campus and as far as I
> am aware
> >> that there
> >> >> is not a
> >> >> >> sign in and sign out
> >> >> >> >> policy  after class
> time.
> >> Now they may
> >> >> have
> >> >> >> sign in and sign out policy
> >> >> >> >> during class time to
> keep count
> >> of
> >> >> attendance,
> >> >> >> however, this is know
> >> >> >> >> different signing in and
> signing
> >> out of
> >> >> work which
> >> >> >> everyone blind and
> >> >> >> >> sighted has to do.
> >> >> >> >> The IRS program is one
> of the
> >> best
> >> >> programs there
> >> >> >> and frankly since you
> >> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> to be excepted for a job
> at one
> >> of the IRS
> >> >> offices,
> >> >> >> it is a guarantied
> >> >> >> >> employment after
> completing the
> >> program
> >> >> and they
> >> >> >> start at 45,000 or more.
> >> >> >> >> The food was not the
> greatest,
> >> however, as
> >> >> I said
> >> >> >> above LWSB now known as
> >> >> >> >> World Services for the
> Blind has
> >> made alot
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> changes under the new
> >> >> >> >> director
> >> >> >> >> and frankly I can not
> tell you
> >> how the
> >> >> food is now.
> >> >> >> As I said earlier, I
> >> >> >> >> would make a visit there
> before
> >> making any
> >> >> kind of
> >> >> >> decision.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Anmol
> >> >> >> >> I seldom think about my
> >> limitations, and
> >> >> they never
> >> >> >> make me sad. Perhaps
> >> >> >> >> there is just a touch of
> yearning
> >> at
> >> >> times; but it
> >> >> >> is vague, like a
> >> >> >> >> breeze
> >> >> >> >> among flowers.
> >> >> >> >> Hellen Keller
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian
> Perrault
> >> <iperrault at hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> From: Ian Perrault
> <iperrault at hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> >>> Subject: [nabs-l]
> LWSB Little
> >> Rock
> >> >> Employment
> >> >> >> Training Programs
> >> >> >> >>> To: "National
> Association of
> >> Blind
> >> >> Students"
> >> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> >> >>> Date: Monday, July
> 16, 2012,
> >> 4:14 PM
> >> >> >> >>> Hi
> >> >> >> >>> I’m wondering if
> any of you
> >> have
> >> >> attended
> >> >> >> LWSB for one of their
> >> >> >> >>> employment training
> programs,
> >> or LWSB
> >> >> in
> >> >> >> general?
> >> >> >> >>> I’m looking into
> one of the
> >> IRS
> >> >> programs, and
> >> >> >> was reading the manual,
> >> >> >> >>> and it seems like a
> very
> >> strict and
> >> >> structured
> >> >> >> environment, even
> >> >> >> >>> though most of the
> >> participants are
> >> >> adults. For
> >> >> >> instance, you have to
> >> >> >> >>> sign out if you want
> to go
> >> somewhere
> >> >> and things
> >> >> >> like that. Have any of
> >> >> >> >>> you attended LWSB?
> I’d love
> >> to hear
> >> >> what your
> >> >> >> experiences were. Since
> >> >> >> >>> I’ve been to
> college, it
> >> sounds like
> >> >> it’s
> >> >> >> not as independent of an
> >> >> >> >>> environment.
> >> >> >> >>> Ian
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
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