[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

[Nimer M. Jaber, IC³]

Hello,

They got rid of those apartments for rent as of last August, and they
now have everyone living on campus.

Thanks.

On 7/18/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Desiree,
> I could be wrong about this since I have not been there for a while and the
> things I know about World Services is what I have heard from my friends, but
> as I understand World Services has contract with an apartment complex near
> the center that their clients can rent and I think state may pay for it
> instead of paying for room and board while they are going through their
> training. Again I could be wrong, but Amber or someone who has been their
> recently.
>
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 11:05 PM
>> Hi all,
>> As I see it, the job training at this center is probably its
>> only
>> strong point. You have to remember, though, that most people
>> are going
>> to live on campus unless they have family or friends in
>> Arkansas that
>> they can stay with, so they can commute every day. If not,
>> what are
>> they going to do, find an apartment, only to vacate it in 6
>> months? I
>> don't think so, it doesn't work that way. flexible leases
>> aren't that
>> easy to come by. So honestly, its a shame that the center is
>> as badly
>> run as it is. I considered going there myself for the
>> computer
>> networking certification, but changed my mind after hearing
>> stories
>> very similar to the opinions that have been expressed here.
>> As I said,
>> it's definitely a shame that this is the only center that
>> has such a
>> good track record with placing the blind in profitable
>> employment.
>> Other centers should exist for this purpose as well. For one
>> place to
>> carry all the load is a little unfair. Considering how high
>> the
>> unemployment rate for the blind is, imagine how much farther
>> along we
>> would get if even several states had a center of this
>> nature.
>>
>> On 7/17/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Anmol,
>> > excellent post. WSB does have a good IRS program. Also,
>> the entrance
>> > requirements were on the website and I hope they still
>> are.
>> > You have to have good technology skills as well as
>> decent educational skills
>> > to get in. Since you will work for the government, they
>> require you to be a
>> > US citizen, able to  pass a drug test, and be
>> willing to relocate. They also
>> > find you a job after your training. I was at a job fair
>> and know who I ran
>> > into?
>> > An IRS rep! He said if I wanted to get a job into that
>> agency, going to WSB
>> > was a good idea. He said they get students from there
>> all the time and that
>> > the next class containing 30 students was starting
>> soon.
>> >
>> > If you're thinking of going, you have to weigh the pros
>> and cons. Also, I
>> > can definitely see why rehab would send clients there;
>> they gaurantee a job
>> > afterward. As Anmol said, this is appealing because
>> more successful case
>> > closures mean they keep the funding they have.
>> > Ashley
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Anmol Bhatia
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:10 PM
>> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>> Training Programs
>> >
>> > Know Arielle I suspect WSB as a whole does not belong
>> to any organization.
>> > They try to remain neutral and WSB actually had a table
>> at the exhabit hall
>> > at the NFB convention. I am not a big fan of WSB to the
>> extend that some on
>> > this list might think I am, however, I do not like
>> reading some of the
>> > comments I read on here from people who do not
>> necessarly know all the
>> > facts.
>> > The things Amber has mentioned are valid and credible
>> because she is there
>> > now. If I were considering attending WSB, I would
>> seriously take into
>> > consideration the things she mentioned. However, WSB
>> does have an employment
>> > track and it is easier for Rehab Counselors to send
>> clients to a training
>> > center which can lead to employment like the WSB rather
>> than an independent
>> > living training center like the NFB training centers
>> that do a good job in
>> > providing independent living training, but do not lead
>> to employment. I
>> > personally understand the value of how independent
>> living training is
>> > important in being successful in employment and most
>> rehab counselors do as
>> > well, but we have to justify how we are spending the
>> tax payer money to
>> > largely ignorent sighted society who do not necessarly
>> see the value of
>> > independent training for a blind person.
>> > To answer the question, the IRS is a promising job that
>> pays the starting
>> > salarry of $45,000 I think with growth opportunity. So
>> you have to decide if
>> > you want to put up with some of the things mentioned:
>> bad food, unclean
>> > building, ect for 6 to 9 months and have a good job
>> after that.
>> > Anmol
>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>> make me sad. Perhaps
>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>> vague, like a breeze
>> > among flowers.
>> > Hellen Keller
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>> Training Programs
>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list"
>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:22 PM
>> >> I suspect that certain students or
>> >> staff at WSB are ACB members and
>> >> try to recruit, but that the WSB itself doesn't
>> have a
>> >> particular
>> >> organizational position.
>> >> Arielle
>> >>
>> >> On 7/17/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Thank you Dave for pointing out that the
>> Little Rock
>> >> chapter of the NFB
>> >> > meets at World Services for the Blind. Josh,
>> if
>> >> according to you they try so
>> >> > hard to recruit students to the ACB, then why
>> do they
>> >> allow the NFB meet in
>> >> > their building and the local chapter of the
>> ACB does
>> >> not meet there?
>> >> >
>> >> > Anmol
>> >> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they
>> never
>> >> make me sad. Perhaps
>> >> > there is just a touch of yearning at times;
>> but it is
>> >> vague, like a breeze
>> >> > among flowers.
>> >> > Hellen Keller
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>> Employment
>> >> Training Programs
>> >> >> To: "National Association of Blind
>> Students mailing
>> >> list"
>> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 12:25 PM
>> >> >> I'm going to attend LCB, after
>> >> >> graduating from college.
>> >> >> Blessings, Joshua
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hello Joshua and everyone,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >     Let' sleet
>> her decide if she
>> >> >> would benefit from a complete training
>> >> >> > program or not. All three NFB centers
>> have
>> >> >> employment-related assistance and
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > offer training in several specific
>> areas. Have
>> >> you been
>> >> >> to an NFB center
>> >> >> > yourself?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Peter Donahue
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >> >> > To: "National Association of Blind
>> Students
>> >> mailing
>> >> >> list"
>> >> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:01
>> AM
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little
>> Rock
>> >> Employment
>> >> >> Training Programs
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > She has the skills to take care of
>> herself.
>> >> >> > She needs job training.
>> >> >> > Is there an NFB sponsored ATI
>> program?
>> >> >> > Thanks, Joshua
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> Good morning everyone,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>     LWSB,
>> formerly the Arkansas
>> >> >> Enterprises for the Blind has had a long
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> checkered history concerning its
>> treatment
>> >> of the
>> >> >> blind persons it claims
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> serve. The conditions you
>> describe have
>> >> existed
>> >> >> there for many years. At
>> >> >> >> one
>> >> >> >> time it was accredited by the
>> National
>> >> >> Accreditation Council for Agencies
>> >> >> >> Serving the Blind and Physically
>> >> Handicapped (NAC.)
>> >> >> Its former blind
>> >> >> >> director was a key figure in NAC.
>> NAC had
>> >> a
>> >> >> reputation for condoning
>> >> >> >> practices that often led to blind
>> persons
>> >> being
>> >> >> abused, mistreated, and
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> the case of sheltered workshops
>> being paid
>> >> less
>> >> >> than the Federal minimum
>> >> >> >> wage. NAC'S so-called "Standards
>> of
>> >> Accreditation"
>> >> >> failed to address
>> >> >> >> these
>> >> >> >> issues. For example the standards
>> called
>> >> for the
>> >> >> agency's grounds to be
>> >> >> >> pleasant but did not require the
>> >> sheltered
>> >> >> workshops they accredited to
>> >> >> >> pay
>> >> >> >> all employees including the
>> blind
>> >> employees the
>> >> >> Federal minimum wage.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>     In 1985
>> NAC held its annual
>> >> >> meeting in Littlerock and the NFB was
>> >> >> >> there
>> >> >> >> to "Greet" them. Both the then
>> Arkansas
>> >> Enterprises
>> >> >> for the Blind and the
>> >> >> >> Arkansas School for the Blind
>> were
>> >> picketed by the
>> >> >> NFB. While at AEB a
>> >> >> >> number of AEB clients told us
>> that there
>> >> were
>> >> >> problems and that it needed
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> be investigated. I know because
>> Mary and I
>> >> were on
>> >> >> that picket line.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>     Judging
>> from what I've read
>> >> >> NAC for practical purposes is gone but
>> >> >> >> vestiges of its evil doings
>> remain at
>> >> agencies such
>> >> >> as LWSB. Amber here's
>> >> >> >> hoping you will eventually attend
>> an NFB
>> >> training
>> >> >> center. These centers
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> a big cut above anything else out
>> there.
>> >> All the
>> >> >> best.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Peter Donahue
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> >> >> >> To: "National Association of
>> Blind
>> >> Students mailing
>> >> >> list"
>> >> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:33
>> PM
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little
>> Rock
>> >> Employment
>> >> >> Training Programs
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Amber,
>> >> >> >> Well, my goodness. I'd have to
>> say first
>> >> that I
>> >> >> commend your efforts in
>> >> >> >> sticking to the facts or trying
>> to. I
>> >> think you did
>> >> >> a good job for
>> >> >> >> someone
>> >> >> >> who did not have a good
>> experience.  I've
>> >> also
>> >> >> heard bad rumors about it.
>> >> >> >> Second, with all this publicity,
>> I'm real
>> >> surprised
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> LWSB continues to stay open and
>> attracting
>> >> the
>> >> >> clients it does.
>> >> >> >> Which program were you in?
>> Independent
>> >> living? or a
>> >> >> job program?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> About rules, personally signing
>> in and out
>> >> doesn't
>> >> >> bother me. You are in
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> training setting and with this
>> litigious
>> >> society,
>> >> >> they need to account
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> everyone. What if there was an
>> emergency?
>> >> They need
>> >> >> to know where
>> >> >> >> everyone
>> >> >> >> is. People go missing everyday
>> and are
>> >> never found.
>> >> >> Youwouldn't want your
>> >> >> >> parents or friends or family
>> calling and
>> >> them
>> >> >> saying, oh, we do not know
>> >> >> >> where your son is;  he may
>> be on campus
>> >> or
>> >> >> not.
>> >> >> >> The other thing about the no
>> microwave or
>> >> fridge
>> >> >> would bother me. As a
>> >> >> >> college student, I enjoyed having
>> my own
>> >> fridge in
>> >> >> my room.
>> >> >> >> It gave me some freedom to have a
>> cold
>> >> drink or
>> >> >> cold snack when I wanted
>> >> >> >> to.
>> >> >> >> Since the cafeteria closed early
>> at 7:30,
>> >> this was
>> >> >> definitely nice.
>> >> >> >> That seems early to me given the
>> fact that
>> >> I eat
>> >> >> late at home; between 7
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> 8pm.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Anyway, Amber you are making a
>> good
>> >> personal
>> >> >> decision to leave. So I wish
>> >> >> >> you luck in your next decision to
>> find
>> >> decent
>> >> >> training or whatever you
>> >> >> >> need.
>> >> >> >> I don't remember your intro to
>> us, so I'm
>> >> not sure
>> >> >> if you are a current
>> >> >> >> college student or recent grad.
>> >> >> >> If you haven't finished school, I
>> hope you
>> >> can as
>> >> >> it opens up more doors
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Ashley
>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> From: Herrin, Amber R.
>> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:36
>> PM
>> >> >> >> To: 'National Association of
>> Blind
>> >> Students mailing
>> >> >> list'
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little
>> Rock
>> >> Employment
>> >> >> Training Programs
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Ian,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I am currently at WSB, but am
>> planning to
>> >> leave on
>> >> >> Friday.  Here is what
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> have experienced.  I will do
>> my best to
>> >> give
>> >> >> only facts and not color
>> >> >> >> those
>> >> >> >> facts with my opinion, though
>> before I
>> >> begin, I
>> >> >> will clearly state that
>> >> >> >> if
>> >> >> >> you are asking for an opinion as
>> to
>> >> whether or not
>> >> >> one should attend this
>> >> >> >> program in order to obtain a job,
>> I would
>> >> have to
>> >> >> say no.  But I am not
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> or anyone else for that matter,
>> and what I
>> >> have
>> >> >> experienced here has
>> >> >> >> colored
>> >> >> >> my opinion, and may not be very
>> reliable.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The facts:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> *Several students (including
>> myself) have
>> >> had
>> >> >> valuables go missing.
>> >> >> >> *The food does not seem to meet
>> health and
>> >> safety
>> >> >> codes. (just one
>> >> >> >> example-there are many-one
>> evening we had
>> >> chicken
>> >> >> wings, and though the
>> >> >> >> outside was hot, the inside was
>> not.  I
>> >> would
>> >> >> not mention this, except
>> >> >> >> this
>> >> >> >> is not an isolated incident.)
>> >> >> >> *The showers have light
>> bulbs  (not
>> >> protected
>> >> >> by any kind of panels)
>> >> >> >> inside
>> >> >> >> the actual stall where water
>> could be
>> >> accidentally
>> >> >> splashed.  I brought
>> >> >> >> this
>> >> >> >> up as a concern, so they put a
>> cover over
>> >> mine, but
>> >> >> mine is not the only
>> >> >> >> one
>> >> >> >> that this is the case with (as
>> confirmed
>> >> by other
>> >> >> clients.)
>> >> >> >> *Despite several complaints from
>> many
>> >> clients, the
>> >> >> building is full of
>> >> >> >> bugs.
>> >> >> >> They say that someone comes
>> regularly to
>> >> spray, but
>> >> >> bugs were found even
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> my room, and I am a very clean
>> person.
>> >> (read as, do
>> >> >> not leave food in
>> >> >> >> uncealed containers or dishes
>> with food
>> >> still on
>> >> >> them etc.)
>> >> >> >> *Clients are unable to have
>> microwaves or
>> >> >> refrigerators in their rooms,
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> so are reduced to coolers full of
>> ice or
>> >> nothing at
>> >> >> all except cafeteria
>> >> >> >> food.  There are microwaves
>> that
>> >> physically
>> >> >> exist, but they do not work
>> >> >> >> very
>> >> >> >> well.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Now I can say that there are
>> other things
>> >> I could
>> >> >> talk about, but they
>> >> >> >> probably come down to personal
>> preference
>> >> and
>> >> >> really are just normal
>> >> >> >> inconveniences that one would
>> encounter on
>> >> any
>> >> >> college dorm, except they
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> exaggerated because of the fact
>> that
>> >> everything is
>> >> >> scaled down hugely.
>> >> >> >> So
>> >> >> >> while, for example, on most
>> college
>> >> campuses, you
>> >> >> could go to a dining
>> >> >> >> hall
>> >> >> >> at almost any time of day, if you
>> do not
>> >> come to
>> >> >> meals at the times
>> >> >> >> specified, you don't eat
>> meals.  I am
>> >> sure
>> >> >> that anyone can argue that
>> >> >> >> when
>> >> >> >> in school, you have to work with
>> a
>> >> particular
>> >> >> schedule, and while this is
>> >> >> >> true to some extent, I do take
>> issue with
>> >> the fact
>> >> >> that we can't even
>> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> microwaves or refrigerators in
>> our rooms
>> >> so that we
>> >> >> may maintain the
>> >> >> >> schedules that are most
>> comfortable for
>> >> us.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The last thing I mention is a
>> large thing
>> >> and may
>> >> >> not affect anyone, but
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> feel I must mention it, because
>> if I did
>> >> not, I
>> >> >> would be doing a great
>> >> >> >> disservice to anyone considering
>> attending
>> >> this
>> >> >> center.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Two weeks ago this Friday, I was
>> groped by
>> >> an
>> >> >> authority figure.  He was
>> >> >> >> picking me up from the airport,
>> and I was
>> >> >> approaching the baggage claim
>> >> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> a female passenger from my
>> flight.  This
>> >> >> authority figure approached me
>> >> >> >> without announcing himself, put
>> his arm
>> >> around my
>> >> >> waist, hugged me to
>> >> >> >> himself in a tight, possessive
>> manner, and
>> >> told the
>> >> >> female passenger who
>> >> >> >> had
>> >> >> >> offered to walk with me that he
>> "had it
>> >> under
>> >> >> control from there, but
>> >> >> >> thanks."  After which, he
>> looked down at
>> >> me
>> >> >> and said, "How was your trip,
>> >> >> >> Punkin?  We've missed
>> you!  We're so
>> >> glad
>> >> >> you're home!"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> This man did not announce himself
>> to me in
>> >> the
>> >> >> beginning, should have
>> >> >> >> been
>> >> >> >> treating me professionally, is
>> old enough
>> >> to be my
>> >> >> father, and possibly
>> >> >> >> even
>> >> >> >> my grandfather, has only
>> interacted with
>> >> me
>> >> >> minimally since my arrival at
>> >> >> >> the center, I'm 24, etc etc etc.
>> >> Basically,
>> >> >> it was wayyy wayyyy beyond
>> >> >> >> what
>> >> >> >> one would call professional or
>> even
>> >> acceptable
>> >> >> regardless of setting.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I cannot tell you whether to
>> attend this
>> >> center;
>> >> >> only you can decide that
>> >> >> >> for yourself.  What I can
>> tell you is
>> >> that the
>> >> >> man who did this to me was
>> >> >> >> reported by me, and, I have
>> discovered,
>> >> has been
>> >> >> reported multiple times
>> >> >> >> by
>> >> >> >> other females that he has
>> violated in one
>> >> way or
>> >> >> another, and still holds
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> job here.  I believe there
>> is something
>> >> big
>> >> >> going on here that I am
>> >> >> >> unaware
>> >> >> >> of, and am only glad to be
>> leaving.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have met some truly wonderful
>> people
>> >> here, but
>> >> >> regardless of that, I
>> >> >> >> could
>> >> >> >> never suggest that someone attend
>> here.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I hope this helps you make your
>> >> decision.  If
>> >> >> it does not, please know
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> I wish you all the best.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Amber R. Herrin
>> >> >> >> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
>> >> >> >> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
>> >> >> >> "It doesn't matter what you've
>> heard
>> >> >> >> Impossible is not a word
>> >> >> >> It's just a reason
>> >> >> >> For someone not to try
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Everybody's scared to death
>> >> >> >> When they decide to take that
>> step
>> >> >> >> Out on the water
>> >> >> >> It'll be alright
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Life is so much more
>> >> >> >> Than what your eyes are seeing
>> >> >> >> You will find your way
>> >> >> >> If you keep believing"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> >> On
>> >> >> >> Behalf
>> >> >> >> Of Anmol Bhatia
>> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:49
>> PM
>> >> >> >> To: National Association of Blind
>> Students
>> >> mailing
>> >> >> list
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little
>> Rock
>> >> Employment
>> >> >> Training Programs
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Ian,
>> >> >> >> I have never attended LWSB as a
>> trainny,
>> >> but I used
>> >> >> to go there on to
>> >> >> >> stay
>> >> >> >> during weekends in the 1990s. The
>> only
>> >> thing I can
>> >> >> say is that LWSB has
>> >> >> >> made
>> >> >> >> alot of changes last couple of
>> years and I
>> >> would
>> >> >> think about visiting
>> >> >> >> there
>> >> >> >> before deciding one way or the
>> other. They
>> >> do have
>> >> >> an option to live off
>> >> >> >> campus and as far as I am aware
>> that there
>> >> is not a
>> >> >> sign in and sign out
>> >> >> >> policy  after class time.
>> Now they may
>> >> have
>> >> >> sign in and sign out policy
>> >> >> >> during class time to keep count
>> of
>> >> attendance,
>> >> >> however, this is know
>> >> >> >> different signing in and signing
>> out of
>> >> work which
>> >> >> everyone blind and
>> >> >> >> sighted has to do.
>> >> >> >> The IRS program is one of the
>> best
>> >> programs there
>> >> >> and frankly since you
>> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> to be excepted for a job at one
>> of the IRS
>> >> offices,
>> >> >> it is a guarantied
>> >> >> >> employment after completing the
>> program
>> >> and they
>> >> >> start at 45,000 or more.
>> >> >> >> The food was not the greatest,
>> however, as
>> >> I said
>> >> >> above LWSB now known as
>> >> >> >> World Services for the Blind has
>> made alot
>> >> of
>> >> >> changes under the new
>> >> >> >> director
>> >> >> >> and frankly I can not tell you
>> how the
>> >> food is now.
>> >> >> As I said earlier, I
>> >> >> >> would make a visit there before
>> making any
>> >> kind of
>> >> >> decision.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Anmol
>> >> >> >> I seldom think about my
>> limitations, and
>> >> they never
>> >> >> make me sad. Perhaps
>> >> >> >> there is just a touch of yearning
>> at
>> >> times; but it
>> >> >> is vague, like a
>> >> >> >> breeze
>> >> >> >> among flowers.
>> >> >> >> Hellen Keller
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian Perrault
>> <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> From: Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>> >> >> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB Little
>> Rock
>> >> Employment
>> >> >> Training Programs
>> >> >> >>> To: "National Association of
>> Blind
>> >> Students"
>> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >>> Date: Monday, July 16, 2012,
>> 4:14 PM
>> >> >> >>> Hi
>> >> >> >>> I’m wondering if any of you
>> have
>> >> attended
>> >> >> LWSB for one of their
>> >> >> >>> employment training programs,
>> or LWSB
>> >> in
>> >> >> general?
>> >> >> >>> I’m looking into one of the
>> IRS
>> >> programs, and
>> >> >> was reading the manual,
>> >> >> >>> and it seems like a very
>> strict and
>> >> structured
>> >> >> environment, even
>> >> >> >>> though most of the
>> participants are
>> >> adults. For
>> >> >> instance, you have to
>> >> >> >>> sign out if you want to go
>> somewhere
>> >> and things
>> >> >> like that. Have any of
>> >> >> >>> you attended LWSB? I’d love
>> to hear
>> >> what your
>> >> >> experiences were. Since
>> >> >> >>> I’ve been to college, it
>> sounds like
>> >> it’s
>> >> >> not as independent of an
>> >> >> >>> environment.
>> >> >> >>> Ian
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>
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