[nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
Nathan Clark
troubleclark at gmail.com
Fri Mar 30 13:24:07 UTC 2012
Dear List
I totally agree with Chris' comment. The NFB training centers are
incredible and the people who work there are extremely supportive. As
a person who went to CCb in 2006 and 2008 I believe going there was
the best decision I have made about my independence.
Sincerely,
Nathan Clark
On 3/29/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> All these complaints against what we NFB members call
> "traditional rehab centers" and their policies make the NFB
> training centers and their practices that much better! From what
> I know about many of you from previous posts on this list, you
> like the NFB philosophy and the fact that we believe blind people
> can and should be expected to be as independent as we can. So,
> why not go to an adult program at an NFB center? They offer the
> same type of program and teach the same skills as traditional
> facilities such as LWSB, but the NFB centers believe in teaching
> independence and won't force you to take a class you don't need.
> I encourage you all to check them out!
>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> Sent from my BrailleNote
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> sent: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:29:06 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>
> Why would they make you take a TDL class if you are already doing
> the stuff
> on your own? If I went to a center for a job placement program
> I'd show
> them right away and try to opt out of the class. Couldn't you
> have done
> this. Seams like those centers bring us independent people down
> to the
> lowest level of people that don't know anything about living
> independently
> at first before you can get to the programs you are actually
> paying for.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>
>
> They train people in Daily living skills, because I was forced to
> take
> that TDL, (Techniques of Daily Living,) class!
> I hated it, because it was stuff, I already knew, and was doing
> on my own!
> Theresa Bailey taught it, and it was horible!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 3/26/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> I thought that LWSB didn't train people on daily living skills.
> That's
> what
> I said!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>
>
> Dear Brian,
> What are you refering to when you talk about the CCB job
> training program?
> Sincerely,
> Nathan
>
> On 3/26/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> I wasn't aware that LWSB offered programs similar to the Carol
> Center's
> and
> Colorado Center's! I was always under the impression that it
> was solely
> a
> job training center AKA an ITT tech or a Western School Of
> Health And
> business!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>
>
> Brian,
> it’s a training center that provides independent living and job
> training.
> They provide training in help desk support and other I T stuff.
> It’s a training facility, not a job placement agency. so, it
> will not
> gaurantee employment.
> I say let the programs run. If you don't like it, don't go
> there, but
> they
>
> must be helping some people improve their lives.
>
> Ashley
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Hatgelakas
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:25 AM
> To: nimerjaber1 at gmail.com ; National Association of Blind
> Students
> mailing
>
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>
> If no employment is provided why not terminate all programs
> accept the
> IRS
> program? My question is how much money is being wasted by state
> agencies
> on
> useless programs at this center? I believe someone needs to do
> an
> investigative article on this topic.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nimer M. Jaber, ICł" <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>
>
> Joshua,
>
> The only programs that will hire directly from WSB are the IRS
> programs and they are not directly affiliated with WSB. You can
> go to
> any other IRS class and get the same offered position. WSB just
> happens to be the location of an IRS training sight. The
> employees
> that teach those classes work directly for the IRS, and the
> computer
> network used is solely for the IRS which makes the IRS classes
> and WSB
> two separate entities in my mind. Even if you wish to count the
> IRS
> classes as belonging to WSB, they have a bunch of other programs
> that
> will not provide employment once a program has been terminated
> and a
> client has graduated successfully.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 25.03.2012, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Joshua, she went to Tyler Texas to teach with Jan at the Tyler
> Light
> House.
>
> Desiree, as part of the ATI program, clients will receive a set
> amount
> of hours (that's not really counted) of practical experience
> which is
> the teaching of students for them that I mentioned, you receive
> an icł
> certification which is outdated, hardly ever used or heard of,
> and
> mostly is unrelated to assistive technology, and because of my
> request
> that I put forward you now will attempt to pass the Freedom
> Scientific
> JAWS cert which again, isn't worth a whole lot seeing how it
> places
> much of its emphasis on how to access help and where to get
> training
> more than knowing how to most efficiently utilize the functions
> of the
> screen reader. For all of this, the training supposedly takes
> nine
> months although I finished up in under four. This was the old
> program.
> Now, the new instructor has been incorporating lessons on
> teaching
> modalities, eye conditions, making equipment recommendations and
> communicating with state Rehab counselors, etc etc. You don't
> receive
> a certification in any of this, unless you call a little piece
> of
> paper and a pin from WSB telling you good job and that you
> graduated
> to be a certification. This is why I don't consider WSB to be a
> school. Technically I'm sure they have to have some
> accreditation or
> other to provide the services that they do, but I'm sure that if
> they
> are meeting the standards for it, they're barely doing so. And
> sanitation issues in their buildings are pretty bad. They have
> an
> antiquated heating and cooling system that can not be switched
> from
> heat to AC quickly meaning that they will only make the switch
> twice a
> year, there are many bugs and some of the food provided is
> unrecognizable, although when boar members are present they do a
> half
> decent job.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 25.03.2012, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> So, if it's not a school, does that mean the accreditation is
> worthless? I'm just trying to understand that part of it. I
> wouldn't
> attend there, because I've heard some disturbing stories, to put
> it
> lightly, about sanitation issues in the dorms.
>
> On 3/25/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> wrote:
> I attended there, under the influence of my VR counselor.
> What a mistake!
> I wanted to get in their AT program, but it was too full.
> They have an awesome ATI, (Assistive Technology Instructor,)
> program,
> that I would have highly recommended, if they had the
> instructor,
> that
> I had.
> We called her Ms Z.
> Anyone remember her?
> Blessings,Joshua
>
> On 3/25/12, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joshua,
>
> LWSB is not a school, and I definitely wouldn't recommend it for
> several reasons. First, the program is being modified heavily
> under
> the influence of a new tech instructor they've just hired, so I
> would
> say wait till everything's worked out. Second, there are quite
> a few
> places where mentioning "LWSB" will not land you work because of
> its
> reputation in the past. And, as mentioned, it is not a school
> which
> means that you really can't depend on it for finding any kind of
> employment.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 25.03.2012, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> wrote:
> http://www.lwsb.org
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 3/25/12, Kayla Paige <kayla.mattox at cox.net> wrote:
> Hi, I have a question. What kind of school would you go to for
> a
> career
> in
> assistive technology? Even though I'm going to school for
> massage
> therapy,
> my other interest is assistive technology. Thanks.
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