[nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
Mark J. Cadigan
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Fri Mar 30 15:42:31 UTC 2012
All states will pay for NFB training centers. However, sometimes it requires
more fighting to get your way.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
> Why won't all states pay for NFB center training just curious.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
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>
>> Dear List
>> I totally agree with Chris' comment. The NFB training centers are
>> incredible and the people who work there are extremely supportive. As
>> a person who went to CCb in 2006 and 2008 I believe going there was
>> the best decision I have made about my independence.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Nathan Clark
>>
>> On 3/29/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> All these complaints against what we NFB members call
>>> "traditional rehab centers" and their policies make the NFB
>>> training centers and their practices that much better! From what
>>> I know about many of you from previous posts on this list, you
>>> like the NFB philosophy and the fact that we believe blind people
>>> can and should be expected to be as independent as we can. So,
>>> why not go to an adult program at an NFB center? They offer the
>>> same type of program and teach the same skills as traditional
>>> facilities such as LWSB, but the NFB centers believe in teaching
>>> independence and won't force you to take a class you don't need.
>>> I encourage you all to check them out!
>>>
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>
>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> sent: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:29:06 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>>>
>>> Why would they make you take a TDL class if you are already doing
>>> the stuff
>>> on your own? If I went to a center for a job placement program
>>> I'd show
>>> them right away and try to opt out of the class. Couldn't you
>>> have done
>>> this. Seams like those centers bring us independent people down
>>> to the
>>> lowest level of people that don't know anything about living
>>> independently
>>> at first before you can get to the programs you are actually
>>> paying for.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>>>
>>>
>>> They train people in Daily living skills, because I was forced to
>>> take
>>> that TDL, (Techniques of Daily Living,) class!
>>> I hated it, because it was stuff, I already knew, and was doing
>>> on my own!
>>> Theresa Bailey taught it, and it was horible!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 3/26/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> I thought that LWSB didn't train people on daily living skills.
>>> That's
>>> what
>>> I said!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Brian,
>>> What are you refering to when you talk about the CCB job
>>> training program?
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> On 3/26/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> I wasn't aware that LWSB offered programs similar to the Carol
>>> Center's
>>> and
>>> Colorado Center's! I was always under the impression that it
>>> was solely
>>> a
>>> job training center AKA an ITT tech or a Western School Of
>>> Health And
>>> business!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian,
>>> it’s a training center that provides independent living and job
>>> training.
>>> They provide training in help desk support and other I T stuff.
>>> It’s a training facility, not a job placement agency. so, it
>>> will not
>>> gaurantee employment.
>>> I say let the programs run. If you don't like it, don't go
>>> there, but
>>> they
>>>
>>> must be helping some people improve their lives.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Brian Hatgelakas
>>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:25 AM
>>> To: nimerjaber1 at gmail.com ; National Association of Blind
>>> Students
>>> mailing
>>>
>>> list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>>>
>>> If no employment is provided why not terminate all programs
>>> accept the
>>> IRS
>>> program? My question is how much money is being wasted by state
>>> agencies
>>> on
>>> useless programs at this center? I believe someone needs to do
>>> an
>>> investigative article on this topic.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nimer M. Jaber, ICł" <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>>>
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>>
>>> The only programs that will hire directly from WSB are the IRS
>>> programs and they are not directly affiliated with WSB. You can
>>> go to
>>> any other IRS class and get the same offered position. WSB just
>>> happens to be the location of an IRS training sight. The
>>> employees
>>> that teach those classes work directly for the IRS, and the
>>> computer
>>> network used is solely for the IRS which makes the IRS classes
>>> and WSB
>>> two separate entities in my mind. Even if you wish to count the
>>> IRS
>>> classes as belonging to WSB, they have a bunch of other programs
>>> that
>>> will not provide employment once a program has been terminated
>>> and a
>>> client has graduated successfully.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 25.03.2012, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> Joshua, she went to Tyler Texas to teach with Jan at the Tyler
>>> Light
>>> House.
>>>
>>> Desiree, as part of the ATI program, clients will receive a set
>>> amount
>>> of hours (that's not really counted) of practical experience
>>> which is
>>> the teaching of students for them that I mentioned, you receive
>>> an icł
>>> certification which is outdated, hardly ever used or heard of,
>>> and
>>> mostly is unrelated to assistive technology, and because of my
>>> request
>>> that I put forward you now will attempt to pass the Freedom
>>> Scientific
>>> JAWS cert which again, isn't worth a whole lot seeing how it
>>> places
>>> much of its emphasis on how to access help and where to get
>>> training
>>> more than knowing how to most efficiently utilize the functions
>>> of the
>>> screen reader. For all of this, the training supposedly takes
>>> nine
>>> months although I finished up in under four. This was the old
>>> program.
>>> Now, the new instructor has been incorporating lessons on
>>> teaching
>>> modalities, eye conditions, making equipment recommendations and
>>> communicating with state Rehab counselors, etc etc. You don't
>>> receive
>>> a certification in any of this, unless you call a little piece
>>> of
>>> paper and a pin from WSB telling you good job and that you
>>> graduated
>>> to be a certification. This is why I don't consider WSB to be a
>>> school. Technically I'm sure they have to have some
>>> accreditation or
>>> other to provide the services that they do, but I'm sure that if
>>> they
>>> are meeting the standards for it, they're barely doing so. And
>>> sanitation issues in their buildings are pretty bad. They have
>>> an
>>> antiquated heating and cooling system that can not be switched
>>> from
>>> heat to AC quickly meaning that they will only make the switch
>>> twice a
>>> year, there are many bugs and some of the food provided is
>>> unrecognizable, although when boar members are present they do a
>>> half
>>> decent job.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 25.03.2012, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> So, if it's not a school, does that mean the accreditation is
>>> worthless? I'm just trying to understand that part of it. I
>>> wouldn't
>>> attend there, because I've heard some disturbing stories, to put
>>> it
>>> lightly, about sanitation issues in the dorms.
>>>
>>> On 3/25/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>> I attended there, under the influence of my VR counselor.
>>> What a mistake!
>>> I wanted to get in their AT program, but it was too full.
>>> They have an awesome ATI, (Assistive Technology Instructor,)
>>> program,
>>> that I would have highly recommended, if they had the
>>> instructor,
>>> that
>>> I had.
>>> We called her Ms Z.
>>> Anyone remember her?
>>> Blessings,Joshua
>>>
>>> On 3/25/12, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Joshua,
>>>
>>> LWSB is not a school, and I definitely wouldn't recommend it for
>>> several reasons. First, the program is being modified heavily
>>> under
>>> the influence of a new tech instructor they've just hired, so I
>>> would
>>> say wait till everything's worked out. Second, there are quite
>>> a few
>>> places where mentioning "LWSB" will not land you work because of
>>> its
>>> reputation in the past. And, as mentioned, it is not a school
>>> which
>>> means that you really can't depend on it for finding any kind of
>>> employment.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 25.03.2012, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>> http://www.lwsb.org
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 3/25/12, Kayla Paige <kayla.mattox at cox.net> wrote:
>>> Hi, I have a question. What kind of school would you go to for
>>> a
>>> career
>>> in
>>> assistive technology? Even though I'm going to school for
>>> massage
>>> therapy,
>>> my other interest is assistive technology. Thanks.
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