[nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sat Mar 31 13:26:11 UTC 2012
Hadley also has many online technology courses. Check them out
at www.hadley.edu.
Chris Nusbaum
"For we walk by faith, not by sight."
2 Corinthians 5:7
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From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com
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sent: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:17:16 -0400
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Stephanie,
If all you are interested in is improving your technology skills,
the
Carroll Center does offer various online classes.
For improving interviewing skills, there is a company called
phone interview
pro. This company will work with you to help you improve your
phone
interviewing skills. State rehab in my state paid for me to
receive this
interview training.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephanie DeLuca" <sjhhirst at gmail.com
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:44 AM
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Oh, well I wasn't discounting the NFB centers. They look great!
I live
in Nashville though and am a full-time graduate student. I
don't know if
I could take so much time off to go through an independent
living program.
It'd be great to have some lessons, though.
On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
Stephanie,
Don’t discount an NFB center just because you don’t think
you require
help with daily living. I’m certin you will learn some new
tips and
tricks in an NFB center’s home management class. With that
being said,
if you are an expert at all aspects of daily living, they will
recognize
that, and graduate you from the class.
Mark
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I was thinking about going with the Tennessee Rehab Center to
learn some
braille, O&M, and interview skills. I don't really need help on
daily
living. Does anyone know the quality of the instruction at this
center
and can comment on it?
On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ wrote:
Because not all states or counselors have subscribed to the NFB
way of
doing things (like forcing the blindfold issue or the cane
issue) for
example. One organization or group's ideas about independence
aren't
always the same as another group's ideas.
On 30.03.2012, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
wrote:
Why won't all states pay for NFB center training just curious.
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:24 AM
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Dear List
I totally agree with Chris' comment. The NFB training centers
are
incredible and the people who work there are extremely
supportive. As
a person who went to CCb in 2006 and 2008 I believe going there
was
the best decision I have made about my independence.
Sincerely,
Nathan Clark
On 3/29/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
All these complaints against what we NFB members call
"traditional rehab centers" and their policies make the NFB
training centers and their practices that much better! From what
I know about many of you from previous posts on this list, you
like the NFB philosophy and the fact that we believe blind
people
can and should be expected to be as independent as we can. So,
why not go to an adult program at an NFB center? They offer the
same type of program and teach the same skills as traditional
facilities such as LWSB, but the NFB centers believe in teaching
independence and won't force you to take a class you don't need.
I encourage you all to check them out!
Chris Nusbaum
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From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
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sent: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:29:06 -0400
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Why would they make you take a TDL class if you are already
doing
the stuff
on your own? If I went to a center for a job placement program
I'd show
them right away and try to opt out of the class. Couldn't you
have done
this. Seams like those centers bring us independent people down
to the
lowest level of people that don't know anything about living
independently
at first before you can get to the programs you are actually
paying for.
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From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
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They train people in Daily living skills, because I was forced
to
take
that TDL, (Techniques of Daily Living,) class!
I hated it, because it was stuff, I already knew, and was doing
on my own!
Theresa Bailey taught it, and it was horible!
Blessings, Joshua
On 3/26/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
wrote:
I thought that LWSB didn't train people on daily living skills.
That's
what
I said!
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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:28 PM
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Dear Brian,
What are you refering to when you talk about the CCB job
training program?
Sincerely,
Nathan
On 3/26/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
wrote:
I wasn't aware that LWSB offered programs similar to the Carol
Center's
and
Colorado Center's! I was always under the impression that it
was solely
a
job training center AKA an ITT tech or a Western School Of
Health And
business!
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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:49 AM
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Brian,
it’s a training center that provides independent living and
job
training.
They provide training in help desk support and other I T stuff.
It’s a training facility, not a job placement agency. so, it
will not
gaurantee employment.
I say let the programs run. If you don't like it, don't go
there, but
they
must be helping some people improve their lives.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hatgelakas
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:25 AM
To: nimerjaber1 at gmail.com ; National Association of Blind
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If no employment is provided why not terminate all programs
accept the
IRS
program? My question is how much money is being wasted by state
agencies
on
useless programs at this center? I believe someone needs to do
an
investigative article on this topic.
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Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:54 PM
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Joshua,
The only programs that will hire directly from WSB are the IRS
programs and they are not directly affiliated with WSB. You can
go to
any other IRS class and get the same offered position. WSB just
happens to be the location of an IRS training sight. The
employees
that teach those classes work directly for the IRS, and the
computer
network used is solely for the IRS which makes the IRS classes
and WSB
two separate entities in my mind. Even if you wish to count the
IRS
classes as belonging to WSB, they have a bunch of other programs
that
will not provide employment once a program has been terminated
and a
client has graduated successfully.
Thanks.
On 25.03.2012, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com
wrote:
Joshua, she went to Tyler Texas to teach with Jan at the Tyler
Light
House.
Desiree, as part of the ATI program, clients will receive a set
amount
of hours (that's not really counted) of practical experience
which is
the teaching of students for them that I mentioned, you receive
an icł
certification which is outdated, hardly ever used or heard of,
and
mostly is unrelated to assistive technology, and because of my
request
that I put forward you now will attempt to pass the Freedom
Scientific
JAWS cert which again, isn't worth a whole lot seeing how it
places
much of its emphasis on how to access help and where to get
training
more than knowing how to most efficiently utilize the functions
of the
screen reader. For all of this, the training supposedly takes
nine
months although I finished up in under four. This was the old
program.
Now, the new instructor has been incorporating lessons on
teaching
modalities, eye conditions, making equipment recommendations and
communicating with state Rehab counselors, etc etc. You don't
receive
a certification in any of this, unless you call a little piece
of
paper and a pin from WSB telling you good job and that you
graduated
to be a certification. This is why I don't consider WSB to be a
school. Technically I'm sure they have to have some
accreditation or
other to provide the services that they do, but I'm sure that if
they
are meeting the standards for it, they're barely doing so. And
sanitation issues in their buildings are pretty bad. They have
an
antiquated heating and cooling system that can not be switched
from
heat to AC quickly meaning that they will only make the switch
twice a
year, there are many bugs and some of the food provided is
unrecognizable, although when boar members are present they do a
half
decent job.
Thanks.
On 25.03.2012, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
So, if it's not a school, does that mean the accreditation is
worthless? I'm just trying to understand that part of it. I
wouldn't
attend there, because I've heard some disturbing stories, to put
it
lightly, about sanitation issues in the dorms.
On 3/25/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
wrote:
I attended there, under the influence of my VR counselor.
What a mistake!
I wanted to get in their AT program, but it was too full.
They have an awesome ATI, (Assistive Technology Instructor,)
program,
that I would have highly recommended, if they had the
instructor,
that
I had.
We called her Ms Z.
Anyone remember her?
Blessings,Joshua
On 3/25/12, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
Joshua,
LWSB is not a school, and I definitely wouldn't recommend it for
several reasons. First, the program is being modified heavily
under
the influence of a new tech instructor they've just hired, so I
would
say wait till everything's worked out. Second, there are quite
a few
places where mentioning "LWSB" will not land you work because of
its
reputation in the past. And, as mentioned, it is not a school
which
means that you really can't depend on it for finding any kind of
employment.
Thanks.
On 25.03.2012, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
wrote:
http://www.lwsb.org
Blessings, Joshua
On 3/25/12, Kayla Paige <kayla.mattox at cox.net> wrote:
Hi, I have a question. What kind of school would you go to for
a
career
in
assistive technology? Even though I'm going to school for
massage
therapy,
my other interest is assistive technology. Thanks.
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