[nabs-l] nabs-l Digest, Vol 72, Issue 15

[Isaac Hebert]

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>    1. Re: iphone problem (Rania Ismail LMT)
>    2. Re: iphone problem (christopher nusbaum)
>    3. Re: iphone problem (Lavonya Gardner)
>    4. Re: iphone problem (Lavonya Gardner)
>    5. Weird problem between Akapela voices and RbClip (Gerardo Corripio)
>    6. Re: iphone problem (Rania Ismail LMT)
>    7. Re: iphone problem (Gerardo Corripio)
>    8. Re: iphone problem (Sophie Trist)
>    9. Re: Getting Drivers? (Greg Aikens)
>   10. Re: iphone problem (Lavonya Gardner)
>   11. Re: iphone problem (Lavonya Gardner)
>   12. Re: iphone problem (christopher nusbaum)
>   13. Re: iphone problem (christopher nusbaum)
>   14. Re: iphone problem (Rania Ismail LMT)
>   15. Re: iphone problem (Rania Ismail LMT)
>   16. Re: iphone problem (Sophie Trist)
>   17. Re: Getting Drivers? (Brandon Keith Biggs)
>   18. Re: NABS Subscription (David Andrews)
>   19. Re: Getting Drivers? (Arielle Silverman)
>   20. Re: iphone problem (Rania Ismail LMT)
>   21. Re: iphone problem (Lavonya Gardner)
>   22. Re: iphone problem (Lavonya Gardner)
>   23. Re: iphone problem (Rania Ismail LMT)
>   24. Re: Getting Drivers? (Brandon Keith Biggs)
>   25. Re: iphone problem (Lavonya Gardner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:22:29 -0300
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <2A3D3FC74BF142C88885BA01C487021C at userPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
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> How long did it take you to get used to the touch screene on either the
> Iphone or Ipod?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
> nusbaum
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:33 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> I know! At the Buddy program at LCB this year, all the counselors
> except 1 had iPhones. I had been wanting one for a while, and when I
> saw all they could do, I was really jealous, and now I have one! :) By
> the way, Sophie, do you remember Emilie West from last year's Buddy
> Program? She was back this year, and remembers you. She is still known
> around LCB as the Prosecuter, and she picked on Mr. G this year as
> much as she did last year. :) Feel free to write me off-list; I know
> I'm getting off-topic.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of minor
>> bugs
> than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was resistent to the whole
> touch
> screen thing, but when I went to camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone
> was with them, I decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
> advanced phone out there.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer use a
>> touch
>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the I-phone for
> about
>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at the
>> start,
>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things just take
> time.
>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see myself
> going
>> to anything else.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>>
>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has actual
>> buttons.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie Trist
>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>> To: nabs
>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts playing
>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and I
>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>> Apple.
>> All the best,
>> Sophie Trist
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:30:26 -0400
> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
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> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch and
>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
>> to
>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>> moble?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>> probably
>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>> use the
>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>> with the
>> touch screen?
>> Patrick
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>> here
>> should know more.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>> button
>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>> you
>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>> who
>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>> turn on
>> speach
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joshua,
>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>> very
>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>> touchscreen.
>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>> shouldn't.
>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>> to the
>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>> annoying.
>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>> say,
>> don't say anything at all.
>> ~Jewel
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>> advanced
>> phone out there.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>> use a touch
>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>> I-phone for about
>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>> the start,
>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>> just
>> take time.
>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>> myself going
>> to anything else.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>>
>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>> actual
>> buttons.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>> Trist
>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>> To: nabs
>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>> playing
>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>> I
>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>> Apple.
>> All the best,
>> Sophie Trist
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:46:26 -0400
> From: Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
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> that is good to know. because i use TTY, and as long as TTY has been around,
> there aload of people who do not no what that is. so i have people hang up
> on me all the time. so if i do not have to call them, and i can just go in
> to the store, that would be great.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 22:30, christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
>> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
>> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
>> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
>> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
>> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch
>>> and
>>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
>>> to
>>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>>> moble?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie
>>> Trist
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>>> probably
>>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>>> use the
>>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>>> with the
>>> touch screen?
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>>> here
>>> should know more.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>>> button
>>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>>> you
>>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>>> who
>>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>>> turn on
>>> speach
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>>> very
>>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>>> touchscreen.
>>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>>> shouldn't.
>>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>>> to the
>>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>>> annoying.
>>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>>> say,
>>> don't say anything at all.
>>> ~Jewel
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>>> advanced
>>> phone out there.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>>> use a touch
>>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>>> I-phone for about
>>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>>> the start,
>>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>>> just
>>> take time.
>>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>>> myself going
>>> to anything else.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>>
>>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>>> actual
>>> buttons.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>>> Trist
>>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>>> To: nabs
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>>> playing
>>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>>> I
>>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>>> Apple.
>>> All the best,
>>> Sophie Trist
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:48:55 -0400
> From: Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
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> i am still working with the touch screen. i use the blue tooth keyboard to
> do most of my work. but i do use the touch screen to type as well.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 21:22, "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How long did it take you to get used to the touch screene on either the
>> Iphone or Ipod?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
>> nusbaum
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:33 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I know! At the Buddy program at LCB this year, all the counselors
>> except 1 had iPhones. I had been wanting one for a while, and when I
>> saw all they could do, I was really jealous, and now I have one! :) By
>> the way, Sophie, do you remember Emilie West from last year's Buddy
>> Program? She was back this year, and remembers you. She is still known
>> around LCB as the Prosecuter, and she picked on Mr. G this year as
>> much as she did last year. :) Feel free to write me off-list; I know
>> I'm getting off-topic.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of minor
>>> bugs
>> than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was resistent to the whole
>> touch
>> screen thing, but when I went to camp at LCB and saw how efficient
>> everyone
>> was with them, I decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>> advanced phone out there.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer use a
>>> touch
>>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the I-phone for
>> about
>>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at the
>>> start,
>>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things just take
>> time.
>>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see myself
>> going
>>> to anything else.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>>
>>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has actual
>>> buttons.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie Trist
>>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>>> To: nabs
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts playing
>>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and I
>>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>>> Apple.
>>> All the best,
>>> Sophie Trist
>>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:45:17 -0500
> From: Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com>
> To: BlindStudents mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Weird problem between Akapela voices and RbClip
> Message-ID: <507A273D.6080800 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>   HI guys: Anyone of you use RbClip or Voicevox to prepare files so when
> they get loaded on the Rockbox player (I've got the Sansa Clip Plus
> model with Rockbox), they read out the file names normally in stead of
> spelling them? OK yesterday I put as default Akapela Heather on my
> Windows7 pc; when I went to use RbClip or Voicevox to name the files, it
> didn't work! In RbClip it got to Processing and nothing happened, except
> an Interrupt button. What's even more weird is I went to Control Panel
> and rechanged the default voice back to Microsoft Ana, and everything
> back to normal!
> So my question is would I have to everytime I want to name files, go
> back to Control Panel and rechange the Ana voice? Any ideas appreciated.
> Gerardo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:57:53 -0300
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <762874A23FC84115B7B0EC091F3F71E1 at userPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in case they
> don't know how to turn it on
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
> nusbaum
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch and
>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
>> to
>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>> moble?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>> probably
>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>> use the
>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>> with the
>> touch screen?
>> Patrick
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>> here
>> should know more.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>> button
>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>> you
>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>> who
>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>> turn on
>> speach
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joshua,
>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>> very
>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>> touchscreen.
>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>> shouldn't.
>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>> to the
>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>> annoying.
>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>> say,
>> don't say anything at all.
>> ~Jewel
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>> advanced
>> phone out there.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>> use a touch
>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>> I-phone for about
>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>> the start,
>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>> just
>> take time.
>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>> myself going
>> to anything else.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>>
>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>> actual
>> buttons.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>> Trist
>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>> To: nabs
>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>> playing
>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>> I
>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>> Apple.
>> All the best,
>> Sophie Trist
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:28:44 -0500
> From: Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <402868EA-3ACB-4724-9FD2-652BB3C4847D at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
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> I had the same positive experience of being able to leave the Iusacel store
> with the IPhone speaking. It's very important, I would like to think, to
> know hese steps; I went as far as to record and Braille hem. Good luck!
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> El 13/10/2012, a las 20:57, "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> escribi?:
>
>> Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in case they
>> don't know how to turn it on
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
>> nusbaum
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
>> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
>> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
>> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
>> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
>> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch
>>> and
>>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
>>> to
>>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>>> moble?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie
>>> Trist
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>>> probably
>>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>>> use the
>>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>>> with the
>>> touch screen?
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>>> here
>>> should know more.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>>> button
>>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>>> you
>>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>>> who
>>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>>> turn on
>>> speach
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>>> very
>>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>>> touchscreen.
>>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>>> shouldn't.
>>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>>> to the
>>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>>> annoying.
>>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>>> say,
>>> don't say anything at all.
>>> ~Jewel
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>>> advanced
>>> phone out there.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>>> use a touch
>>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>>> I-phone for about
>>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>>> the start,
>>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>>> just
>>> take time.
>>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>>> myself going
>>> to anything else.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>>
>>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>>> actual
>>> buttons.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>>> Trist
>>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>>> To: nabs
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>>> playing
>>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>>> I
>>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>>> Apple.
>>> All the best,
>>> Sophie Trist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:44:23 -0500
> From: Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
> 	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <507a3518.3445b60a.5f7c.4606 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Rania, there is no need to waste money on an iPhone and an iPod
> touch. If I were you, I would simply buy the iPhone, because it
> has all the capabilities of an iPod touch, plus a few more
> things.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:21:22 -0300
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod
> touch and
> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who
> knows how to
> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work
> with Team
> moble?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sophie Trist
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
> probably
> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
> use the
> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
> with the
>  touch screen?
>  Patrick
>
>  On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
> here
>  should know more.
>  Arielle
>
>  On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>  If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
> button
>  3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
> you
>  will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>  general, VoiceOver I think.
>
>  Dave
>
>  At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>  speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
> who
>  just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
> turn on
>  speach
>
>  Sent from my iPad
>
>  On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>  Joshua,
>  Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
> very
>  rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
> touchscreen.
>  Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
> shouldn't.
>  You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
> to the
>  person asking the question and personally, I find it very
> annoying.
>  Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
> say,
>  don't say anything at all.
>  ~Jewel
>
>  On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>  minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>  resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>  camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>  decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
> advanced
>  phone out there.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Hi,
>  I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>  use a touch
>  screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>  I-phone for about
>  two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>  the start,
>  but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
> just
>  take time.
>  I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>  myself going
>  to anything else.
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>
>  That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>  I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>  actual
>  buttons.
>  Blessings, Joshua
>  ________________________________________
>  From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>  Trist
>  [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>  To: nabs
>  Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Dear List:
>
>  It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>  problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>  the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>  playing
>  music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>  answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>  I
>  would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>  Apple.
>  All the best,
>  Sophie Trist
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:30:10 -0400
> From: Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Getting Drivers?
> Message-ID: <1A3A9D31-4463-4817-95BF-28CFAA02DEAD at gmail.com>
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> Hi Brandon,
> Does the area you are going to have cab companies?  This is generally what I
> end up using.  It isn't cheap, but the few times I have price compared
> between the cabs and local car services, the cab service was cheaper.  I
> guess that all depends on the length of your trip etc. and whether or not it
> is worth it to possibly pay more for a more reliable service.  For longer
> trips, the car service may  have the better price.  If you schedule rides
> ahead of time and plan to arrive early, the cab option really isn't too
> unreliable though, in my experience.
>
> I hope this helps.  Let me know if you have more questions.
>
> -Greg
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:30 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm wondering if anyone has any driver's contracts or has any personal
>> stories with using Car Services? I'm starting to plan for when I go to a
>> new town for a 3 week stay and need super reliable daily transportation to
>> a place and I won't have any kind of Public transit.
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:36:50 -0400
> From: Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <BD7C9943-2F5F-4D7D-B7E8-E854B92DD54A at gmail.com>
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>
> ronnia,
> i plan to get the iphone. my friend has 1 and loves it.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 23:44, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rania, there is no need to waste money on an iPhone and an iPod touch. If
>> I were you, I would simply buy the iPhone, because it has all the
>> capabilities of an iPod touch, plus a few more things.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:21:22 -0300
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch and
>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
>> to
>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>> moble?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>> probably
>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>> use the
>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>> with the
>> touch screen?
>> Patrick
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>> here
>> should know more.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>> button
>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>> you
>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>> who
>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>> turn on
>> speach
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joshua,
>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>> very
>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>> touchscreen.
>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>> shouldn't.
>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>> to the
>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>> annoying.
>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>> say,
>> don't say anything at all.
>> ~Jewel
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>> advanced
>> phone out there.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>> use a touch
>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>> I-phone for about
>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>> the start,
>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>> just
>> take time.
>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>> myself going
>> to anything else.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>>
>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>> actual
>> buttons.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>> Trist
>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>> To: nabs
>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>> playing
>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>> I
>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>> Apple.
>> All the best,
>> Sophie Trist
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:40:42 -0400
> From: Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <78D88DA4-08EB-4976-95DC-33AE255125B2 at gmail.com>
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> the people at the apple are so thural, tha they will even email you
> instructions, if u need it, and or let you record them, as they do whatever
> u are asking them to do. my info is emailed to me. freel free to email me
> off list if you want. this goes for the hole list
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 23:28, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had the same positive experience of being able to leave the Iusacel
>> store with the IPhone speaking. It's very important, I would like to
>> think, to know hese steps; I went as far as to record and Braille hem.
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>
>> El 13/10/2012, a las 20:57, "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>> escribi?:
>>
>>> Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in case they
>>> don't know how to turn it on
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
>>> nusbaum
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
>>> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
>>> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
>>> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
>>> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
>>> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch
>>>> and
>>>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
>>>> to
>>>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>>>> moble?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie
>>>> Trist
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>>>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>>>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>>>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>>>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>>>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>>>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>>>> probably
>>>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>>>> use the
>>>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>>>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>>>> with the
>>>> touch screen?
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>>>> here
>>>> should know more.
>>>> Arielle
>>>>
>>>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>>>> button
>>>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>>>> you
>>>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>>>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>>>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>>>> who
>>>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>>>> turn on
>>>> speach
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joshua,
>>>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>>>> very
>>>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>>>> touchscreen.
>>>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>>>> shouldn't.
>>>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>>>> to the
>>>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>>>> annoying.
>>>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>>>> say,
>>>> don't say anything at all.
>>>> ~Jewel
>>>>
>>>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>>>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>>>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>>>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>>>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>>>> advanced
>>>> phone out there.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>>>> use a touch
>>>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>>>> I-phone for about
>>>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>>>> the start,
>>>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>>>> just
>>>> take time.
>>>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>>>> myself going
>>>> to anything else.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>>>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>>>> actual
>>>> buttons.
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>>>> Trist
>>>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>>>> To: nabs
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>> Dear List:
>>>>
>>>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>>>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>>>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>>>> playing
>>>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>>>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>>>> I
>>>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>>>> Apple.
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Sophie Trist
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:15:42 -0400
> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <-6140958806404072648 at unknownmsgid>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I agree. I would either just get an iPhone or get an iTouch and
> traditional feature phone that only makes calls and sends the text.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Rania, there is no need to waste money on an iPhone and an iPod touch. If
>> I were you, I would simply buy the iPhone, because it has all the
>> capabilities of an iPod touch, plus a few more things.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:21:22 -0300
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch and
>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
>> to
>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>> moble?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>> probably
>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>> use the
>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>> with the
>> touch screen?
>> Patrick
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>> here
>> should know more.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>> button
>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>> you
>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>> who
>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>> turn on
>> speach
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joshua,
>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>> very
>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>> touchscreen.
>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>> shouldn't.
>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>> to the
>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>> annoying.
>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>> say,
>> don't say anything at all.
>> ~Jewel
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>> advanced
>> phone out there.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>> use a touch
>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>> I-phone for about
>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>> the start,
>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>> just
>> take time.
>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>> myself going
>> to anything else.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>>
>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>> actual
>> buttons.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>> Trist
>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>> To: nabs
>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>> playing
>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>> I
>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>> Apple.
>> All the best,
>> Sophie Trist
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:18:15 -0400
> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <-6186156645286335169 at unknownmsgid>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> They should know how to do it, but I would write the instructions down
> and save them just in case.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in case they
>> don't know how to turn it on
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
>> nusbaum
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
>> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
>> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
>> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
>> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
>> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch
>>> and
>>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
>>> to
>>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>>> moble?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie
>>> Trist
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>>> probably
>>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>>> use the
>>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>>> with the
>>> touch screen?
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>>> here
>>> should know more.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>>> button
>>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>>> you
>>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>>> who
>>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>>> turn on
>>> speach
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>>> very
>>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>>> touchscreen.
>>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>>> shouldn't.
>>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>>> to the
>>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>>> annoying.
>>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>>> say,
>>> don't say anything at all.
>>> ~Jewel
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>>> advanced
>>> phone out there.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>>> use a touch
>>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>>> I-phone for about
>>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>>> the start,
>>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>>> just
>>> take time.
>>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>>> myself going
>>> to anything else.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>>
>>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>>> actual
>>> buttons.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>>> Trist
>>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>>> To: nabs
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>>> playing
>>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>>> I
>>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>>> Apple.
>>> All the best,
>>> Sophie Trist
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:18:13 -0300
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <A633B0FF3C0640C5976D86B73D3FB3C8 at userPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Oh wow! So they can email me instructions on how to download aps and things
> to help me get used to the Iphone?
> That's pretty cool!
> Thanks for letting me know!
> Rania,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lavonya
> Gardner
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:41 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> the people at the apple are so thural, tha they will even email you
> instructions, if u need it, and or let you record them, as they do whatever
> u are asking them to do. my info is emailed to me. freel free to email me
> off list if you want. this goes for the hole list
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 23:28, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had the same positive experience of being able to leave the Iusacel
> store with the IPhone speaking. It's very important, I would like to think,
> to know hese steps; I went as far as to record and Braille hem. Good luck!
>>
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>
>> El 13/10/2012, a las 20:57, "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> escribi?:
>>
>>> Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in case they
>>> don't know how to turn it on
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
>>> nusbaum
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
>>> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
>>> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
>>> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
>>> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
>>> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch
> and
>>>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
> to
>>>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>>>> moble?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie
> Trist
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>>>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>>>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>>>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>>>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>>>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>>>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>>>> probably
>>>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>>>> use the
>>>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>>>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>>>> with the
>>>> touch screen?
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>>>> here
>>>> should know more.
>>>> Arielle
>>>>
>>>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>>>> button
>>>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>>>> you
>>>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>>>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>>>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>>>> who
>>>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>>>> turn on
>>>> speach
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joshua,
>>>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>>>> very
>>>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>>>> touchscreen.
>>>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>>>> shouldn't.
>>>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>>>> to the
>>>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>>>> annoying.
>>>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>>>> say,
>>>> don't say anything at all.
>>>> ~Jewel
>>>>
>>>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>>>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>>>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>>>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>>>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>>>> advanced
>>>> phone out there.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>>>> use a touch
>>>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>>>> I-phone for about
>>>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>>>> the start,
>>>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>>>> just
>>>> take time.
>>>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>>>> myself going
>>>> to anything else.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>>>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>>>> actual
>>>> buttons.
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>>>> Trist
>>>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>>>> To: nabs
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>> Dear List:
>>>>
>>>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>>>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>>>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>>>> playing
>>>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>>>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>>>> I
>>>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>>>> Apple.
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Sophie Trist
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:19:38 -0300
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <E75ADF21D55546A3A2D138FFF224B30E at userPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thank you. I plan on getting one or the other. I don't need both. I am
> going
> to look at both and figure out what I want or need more.
>
> Thanks for your suggestion!
> Rania,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:44 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> Rania, there is no need to waste money on an iPhone and an iPod
> touch. If I were you, I would simply buy the iPhone, because it
> has all the capabilities of an iPod touch, plus a few more
> things.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:21:22 -0300
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod
> touch and
> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who
> knows how to
> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work
> with Team
> moble?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sophie Trist
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
> probably
> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
> use the
> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
> with the
>  touch screen?
>  Patrick
>
>  On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
> here
>  should know more.
>  Arielle
>
>  On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>  If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
> button
>  3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
> you
>  will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>  general, VoiceOver I think.
>
>  Dave
>
>  At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>  speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
> who
>  just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
> turn on
>  speach
>
>  Sent from my iPad
>
>  On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>  Joshua,
>  Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
> very
>  rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
> touchscreen.
>  Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
> shouldn't.
>  You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
> to the
>  person asking the question and personally, I find it very
> annoying.
>  Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
> say,
>  don't say anything at all.
>  ~Jewel
>
>  On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>  minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>  resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>  camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>  decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
> advanced
>  phone out there.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Hi,
>  I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>  use a touch
>  screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>  I-phone for about
>  two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>  the start,
>  but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
> just
>  take time.
>  I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>  myself going
>  to anything else.
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>
>  That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>  I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>  actual
>  buttons.
>  Blessings, Joshua
>  ________________________________________
>  From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>  Trist
>  [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>  To: nabs
>  Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Dear List:
>
>  It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>  problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>  the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>  playing
>  music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>  answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>  I
>  would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>  Apple.
>  All the best,
>  Sophie Trist
>
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:33:41 -0500
> From: Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
> 	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <507adb57.c9043c0a.644a.ffffd88a at mx.google.com>
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>
> I didn't know about the email thing, but it sounds like a really
> good service to use if you're that kind of person. However, I
> tend to learn better by actually doing stuff with the device. I
> found the iPhone very user friendly. I needed minimal help to get
> started.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:18:13 -0300
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> Oh wow! So they can email me instructions on how to download aps
> and things
> to help me get used to the Iphone?
> That's pretty cool!
> Thanks for letting me know!
> Rania,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Lavonya Gardner
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:41 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> the people at the apple are so thural, tha they will even email
> you
> instructions, if u need it, and or let you record them, as they
> do whatever
> u are asking them to do. my info is emailed to me. freel free to
> email me
> off list if you want. this goes for the hole list
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 23:28, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  I had the same positive experience of being able to leave the
> Iusacel
> store with the IPhone speaking. It's very important, I would like
> to think,
> to know hese steps; I went as far as to record and Braille hem.
> Good luck!
>
>  Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
>  El 13/10/2012, a las 20:57, "Rania Ismail LMT"
> <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
> escribi?:
>
>  Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in
> case they
>  don't know how to turn it on
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> christopher
>  nusbaum
>  Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person
> you get
>  at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility,
> and
>  turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at
> our
>  local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on
> for me.
>  He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was
> able to
>  do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good
> luck!
>
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
>  On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT
> <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>  wrote:
>
>  I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod
> touch
> and
>  Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who
> knows how
> to
>  tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work
> with Team
>  moble?
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sophie
> Trist
>  Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>  hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>  phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>  can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>  many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>  threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>  was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>  probably
>  because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>  use the
>  dictate feature or Siri, though.
>
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
>  On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>  <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>  with the
>  touch screen?
>  Patrick
>
>  On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>  here
>  should know more.
>  Arielle
>
>  On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>  If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>  button
>  3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>  you
>  will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>  general, VoiceOver I think.
>
>  Dave
>
>  At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>  speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>  who
>  just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>  turn on
>  speach
>
>  Sent from my iPad
>
>  On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>  wrote:
>
>  Joshua,
>  Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>  very
>  rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>  touchscreen.
>  Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>  shouldn't.
>  You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>  to the
>  person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>  annoying.
>  Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>  say,
>  don't say anything at all.
>  ~Jewel
>
>  On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>  minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>  resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>  camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>  decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>  advanced
>  phone out there.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Hi,
>  I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>  use a touch
>  screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>  I-phone for about
>  two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>  the start,
>  but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>  just
>  take time.
>  I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>  myself going
>  to anything else.
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>
>  That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>  I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>  actual
>  buttons.
>  Blessings, Joshua
>  ________________________________________
>  From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>  Trist
>  [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>  To: nabs
>  Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Dear List:
>
>  It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>  problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>  the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>  playing
>  music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>  answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>  I
>  would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>  Apple.
>  All the best,
>  Sophie Trist
>
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:49:55 -0700
> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Getting Drivers?
> Message-ID: <6DED9FDDBC1442E985085164E3CB6E3A at BrandonsLaptop2>
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> Hello,
> The difficulty is with the payment. If I'm in another country especially I'd
>
> be a little phreaked out with a cab situation. Is a cab like an outreach
> where you have to call them the day before to schedule like 2 or 3 rides, or
>
> how does that work? I've never tried using cabs for more than a ride or
> two.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Aikens
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:30 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Getting Drivers?
>
> Hi Brandon,
> Does the area you are going to have cab companies?  This is generally what I
>
> end up using.  It isn't cheap, but the few times I have price compared
> between the cabs and local car services, the cab service was cheaper.  I
> guess that all depends on the length of your trip etc. and whether or not it
>
> is worth it to possibly pay more for a more reliable service.  For longer
> trips, the car service may  have the better price.  If you schedule rides
> ahead of time and plan to arrive early, the cab option really isn't too
> unreliable though, in my experience.
>
> I hope this helps.  Let me know if you have more questions.
>
> -Greg
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:30 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm wondering if anyone has any driver's contracts or has any personal
>> stories with using Car Services? I'm starting to plan for when I go to a
>> new town for a 3 week stay and need super reliable daily transportation to
>>
>> a place and I won't have any kind of Public transit.
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>
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>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:14:34 -0500
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS Subscription
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> The link to subscribe is:
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> Dave
>
> At 03:32 PM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Would someone email me the subscription link for this list?
>>
>>Have a great Saturday!
>>Ashley Coleman
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:29:45 -0600
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Getting Drivers?
> Message-ID:
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>
> You can schedule one ride in advance with most cab companies, but what
> might be better is to call a cab the first day, then if you like the
> driver you get, ask them if they regularly work during that time and
> you could get that driver's phone number and make an arrangement for
> them to drive you to and from your destination every day for a certain
> price that you negotiate with them. If you're in the United States,
> you can also go on Craigslist for the town you'll be in and post a job
> ad for a driver there.
> Arielle
>
> On 10/14/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> The difficulty is with the payment. If I'm in another country especially
>> I'd
>>
>> be a little phreaked out with a cab situation. Is a cab like an outreach
>> where you have to call them the day before to schedule like 2 or 3 rides,
>> or
>>
>> how does that work? I've never tried using cabs for more than a ride or
>> two.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Aikens
>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:30 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Getting Drivers?
>>
>> Hi Brandon,
>> Does the area you are going to have cab companies?  This is generally what
>> I
>>
>> end up using.  It isn't cheap, but the few times I have price compared
>> between the cabs and local car services, the cab service was cheaper.  I
>> guess that all depends on the length of your trip etc. and whether or not
>> it
>>
>> is worth it to possibly pay more for a more reliable service.  For longer
>> trips, the car service may  have the better price.  If you schedule rides
>> ahead of time and plan to arrive early, the cab option really isn't too
>> unreliable though, in my experience.
>>
>> I hope this helps.  Let me know if you have more questions.
>>
>> -Greg
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:30 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
>> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm wondering if anyone has any driver's contracts or has any personal
>>> stories with using Car Services? I'm starting to plan for when I go to a
>>> new town for a 3 week stay and need super reliable daily transportation
>>> to
>>>
>>> a place and I won't have any kind of Public transit.
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:38:09 -0300
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <3C7AD61857204B479C28691B31DE585D at userPC>
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> Ok thank you!
> Rania,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
> nusbaum
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:18 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> They should know how to do it, but I would write the instructions down
> and save them just in case.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in case they
>> don't know how to turn it on
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
>> nusbaum
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
>> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
>> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
>> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
>> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
>> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch
>>> and
>>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
> to
>>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>>> moble?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie
>>> Trist
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>>> probably
>>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>>> use the
>>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>>> with the
>>> touch screen?
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>>> here
>>> should know more.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>>> button
>>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>>> you
>>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>>> who
>>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>>> turn on
>>> speach
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>>> very
>>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>>> touchscreen.
>>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>>> shouldn't.
>>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>>> to the
>>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>>> annoying.
>>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>>> say,
>>> don't say anything at all.
>>> ~Jewel
>>>
>>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>>> advanced
>>> phone out there.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>>> use a touch
>>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>>> I-phone for about
>>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>>> the start,
>>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>>> just
>>> take time.
>>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>>> myself going
>>> to anything else.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>>
>>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>>> actual
>>> buttons.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>>> Trist
>>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>>> To: nabs
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>>> playing
>>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>>> I
>>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>>> Apple.
>>> All the best,
>>> Sophie Trist
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:47:32 -0400
> From: Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <BB9F126B-9FC6-4CFA-AED5-514BA55269A3 at gmail.com>
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>              they even drew pictures for me somehow. But remember, I am not
> just blind. So I have to deal with both, and this means I have to use
> braille, large print, and use screen readers.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 14, 2012, at 11:33, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't know about the email thing, but it sounds like a really good
>> service to use if you're that kind of person. However, I tend to learn
>> better by actually doing stuff with the device. I found the iPhone very
>> user friendly. I needed minimal help to get started.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:18:13 -0300
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Oh wow! So they can email me instructions on how to download aps and
>> things
>> to help me get used to the Iphone?
>> That's pretty cool!
>> Thanks for letting me know!
>> Rania,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lavonya
>> Gardner
>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:41 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> the people at the apple are so thural, tha they will even email you
>> instructions, if u need it, and or let you record them, as they do
>> whatever
>> u are asking them to do. my info is emailed to me. freel free to email me
>> off list if you want. this goes for the hole list
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 23:28, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had the same positive experience of being able to leave the Iusacel
>> store with the IPhone speaking. It's very important, I would like to
>> think,
>> to know hese steps; I went as far as to record and Braille hem. Good
>> luck!
>>
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>
>> El 13/10/2012, a las 20:57, "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>> escribi?:
>>
>> Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in case they
>> don't know how to turn it on
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
>> nusbaum
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
>> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
>> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
>> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
>> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
>> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch
>> and
>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows how
>> to
>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with Team
>> moble?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie
>> Trist
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>> probably
>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>> use the
>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>> with the
>> touch screen?
>> Patrick
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>> here
>> should know more.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>> button
>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>> you
>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>> who
>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>> turn on
>> speach
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joshua,
>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>> very
>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>> touchscreen.
>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>> shouldn't.
>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>> to the
>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>> annoying.
>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>> say,
>> don't say anything at all.
>> ~Jewel
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>> advanced
>> phone out there.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>> use a touch
>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>> I-phone for about
>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>> the start,
>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>> just
>> take time.
>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>> myself going
>> to anything else.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>>
>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>> actual
>> buttons.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>> Trist
>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>> To: nabs
>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>> playing
>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>> I
>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>> Apple.
>> All the best,
>> Sophie Trist
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:49:13 -0400
> From: Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <6F36E50A-E89A-46BD-AC0B-EF8E025302BC at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
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> no problem. i like to help people when i can.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:18, "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh wow! So they can email me instructions on how to download aps and
>> things
>> to help me get used to the Iphone?
>> That's pretty cool!
>> Thanks for letting me know!
>> Rania,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lavonya
>> Gardner
>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:41 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> the people at the apple are so thural, tha they will even email you
>> instructions, if u need it, and or let you record them, as they do
>> whatever
>> u are asking them to do. my info is emailed to me. freel free to email me
>> off list if you want. this goes for the hole list
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 23:28, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I had the same positive experience of being able to leave the Iusacel
>> store with the IPhone speaking. It's very important, I would like to
>> think,
>> to know hese steps; I went as far as to record and Braille hem. Good
>> luck!
>>>
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>>
>>> El 13/10/2012, a las 20:57, "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>> escribi?:
>>>
>>>> Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in case
>>>> they
>>>> don't know how to turn it on
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> christopher
>>>> nusbaum
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>
>>>> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person you get
>>>> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility, and
>>>> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at our
>>>> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on for me.
>>>> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was able to
>>>> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT
>>>> <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod touch
>> and
>>>>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who knows
>>>>> how
>> to
>>>>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work with
>>>>> Team
>>>>> moble?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie
>> Trist
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>>>>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>>>>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>>>>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>>>>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>>>>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>>>>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>>
>>>>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>>>>> probably
>>>>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>>>>> use the
>>>>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>>>>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>>>>> with the
>>>>> touch screen?
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>>>>> here
>>>>> should know more.
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>>>>> button
>>>>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>>>>> you
>>>>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>>>>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>>>>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>>>>> who
>>>>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>>>>> turn on
>>>>> speach
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>>>>> very
>>>>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>>>>> touchscreen.
>>>>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>>>>> shouldn't.
>>>>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>>>>> to the
>>>>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>>>>> annoying.
>>>>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>>>>> say,
>>>>> don't say anything at all.
>>>>> ~Jewel
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>>>>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>>>>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>>>>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>>>>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>>>>> advanced
>>>>> phone out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>>>>> use a touch
>>>>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>>>>> I-phone for about
>>>>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>>>>> the start,
>>>>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>>>>> just
>>>>> take time.
>>>>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>>>>> myself going
>>>>> to anything else.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>>>>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>>>>> actual
>>>>> buttons.
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>>>>> Trist
>>>>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>>>>> To: nabs
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>>>>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>>>>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>>>>> playing
>>>>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>>>>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>>>>> I
>>>>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>>>>> Apple.
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>> Sophie Trist
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:49:04 -0300
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <0CC4041D418E4A4A90D611E7A8B43D6F at userPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I am the kind of person ware I need both. I need to be walked threw how to
> use something like that while using it at the same time.
> Rania,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:34 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> I didn't know about the email thing, but it sounds like a really
> good service to use if you're that kind of person. However, I
> tend to learn better by actually doing stuff with the device. I
> found the iPhone very user friendly. I needed minimal help to get
> started.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:18:13 -0300
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> Oh wow! So they can email me instructions on how to download aps
> and things
> to help me get used to the Iphone?
> That's pretty cool!
> Thanks for letting me know!
> Rania,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Lavonya Gardner
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:41 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
> the people at the apple are so thural, tha they will even email
> you
> instructions, if u need it, and or let you record them, as they
> do whatever
> u are asking them to do. my info is emailed to me. freel free to
> email me
> off list if you want. this goes for the hole list
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 23:28, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  I had the same positive experience of being able to leave the
> Iusacel
> store with the IPhone speaking. It's very important, I would like
> to think,
> to know hese steps; I went as far as to record and Braille hem.
> Good luck!
>
>  Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
>  El 13/10/2012, a las 20:57, "Rania Ismail LMT"
> <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
> escribi?:
>
>  Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in
> case they
>  don't know how to turn it on
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> christopher
>  nusbaum
>  Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person
> you get
>  at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility,
> and
>  turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at
> our
>  local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on
> for me.
>  He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was
> able to
>  do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good
> luck!
>
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
>  On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT
> <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>  wrote:
>
>  I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod
> touch
> and
>  Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who
> knows how
> to
>  tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work
> with Team
>  moble?
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sophie
> Trist
>  Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>  hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>  phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>  can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>  many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>  threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>  was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>  probably
>  because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>  use the
>  dictate feature or Siri, though.
>
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
>  On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>  <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>  with the
>  touch screen?
>  Patrick
>
>  On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>  here
>  should know more.
>  Arielle
>
>  On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>  If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>  button
>  3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>  you
>  will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>  general, VoiceOver I think.
>
>  Dave
>
>  At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>  speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>  who
>  just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>  turn on
>  speach
>
>  Sent from my iPad
>
>  On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>  wrote:
>
>  Joshua,
>  Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>  very
>  rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>  touchscreen.
>  Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>  shouldn't.
>  You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>  to the
>  person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>  annoying.
>  Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>  say,
>  don't say anything at all.
>  ~Jewel
>
>  On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>  minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>  resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>  camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>  decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>  advanced
>  phone out there.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Hi,
>  I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>  use a touch
>  screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>  I-phone for about
>  two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>  the start,
>  but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>  just
>  take time.
>  I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>  myself going
>  to anything else.
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>
>  That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>  I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>  actual
>  buttons.
>  Blessings, Joshua
>  ________________________________________
>  From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>  Trist
>  [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>  To: nabs
>  Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>
>  Dear List:
>
>  It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>  problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>  the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>  playing
>  music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>  answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>  I
>  would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>  Apple.
>  All the best,
>  Sophie Trist
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 24
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:56:48 -0700
> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Getting Drivers?
> Message-ID: <F609BD29F95842B9AAB0D7C6EB9F8851 at BrandonsLaptop2>
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>
>   Hello,
> Cab drivers are negotiable? I thought their company was a fixed rate? Or
> were you meaning with tips and whatnot? Also, when Cabs come, do they yell
> at you to let you know they are there? Because There is no way I'm going to
>
> know a car in front of me is a cab for me unless they say something.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arielle Silverman
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:29 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Getting Drivers?
>
> You can schedule one ride in advance with most cab companies, but what
> might be better is to call a cab the first day, then if you like the
> driver you get, ask them if they regularly work during that time and
> you could get that driver's phone number and make an arrangement for
> them to drive you to and from your destination every day for a certain
> price that you negotiate with them. If you're in the United States,
> you can also go on Craigslist for the town you'll be in and post a job
> ad for a driver there.
> Arielle
>
> On 10/14/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> The difficulty is with the payment. If I'm in another country especially
>> I'd
>>
>> be a little phreaked out with a cab situation. Is a cab like an outreach
>> where you have to call them the day before to schedule like 2 or 3 rides,
>>
>> or
>>
>> how does that work? I've never tried using cabs for more than a ride or
>> two.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Aikens
>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:30 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Getting Drivers?
>>
>> Hi Brandon,
>> Does the area you are going to have cab companies?  This is generally what
>>
>> I
>>
>> end up using.  It isn't cheap, but the few times I have price compared
>> between the cabs and local car services, the cab service was cheaper.  I
>> guess that all depends on the length of your trip etc. and whether or not
>>
>> it
>>
>> is worth it to possibly pay more for a more reliable service.  For longer
>> trips, the car service may  have the better price.  If you schedule rides
>> ahead of time and plan to arrive early, the cab option really isn't too
>> unreliable though, in my experience.
>>
>> I hope this helps.  Let me know if you have more questions.
>>
>> -Greg
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:30 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
>> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm wondering if anyone has any driver's contracts or has any personal
>>> stories with using Car Services? I'm starting to plan for when I go to a
>>> new town for a 3 week stay and need super reliable daily transportation
>>> to
>>>
>>> a place and I won't have any kind of Public transit.
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>
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> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:04:50 -0400
> From: Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
> Message-ID: <3650D058-3858-4220-AE29-D638B8572184 at gmail.com>
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> i was aloud to use a mac to communicate with them as we worked, then emailed
> everthing wth words and pictures. so i got the best of all worlds.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 14, 2012, at 11:49, "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am the kind of person ware I need both. I need to be walked threw how
>> to
>> use something like that while using it at the same time.
>> Rania,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:34 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I didn't know about the email thing, but it sounds like a really
>> good service to use if you're that kind of person. However, I
>> tend to learn better by actually doing stuff with the device. I
>> found the iPhone very user friendly. I needed minimal help to get
>> started.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rania Ismail LMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:18:13 -0300
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Oh wow! So they can email me instructions on how to download aps
>> and things
>> to help me get used to the Iphone?
>> That's pretty cool!
>> Thanks for letting me know!
>> Rania,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Lavonya Gardner
>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:41 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> the people at the apple are so thural, tha they will even email
>> you
>> instructions, if u need it, and or let you record them, as they
>> do whatever
>> u are asking them to do. my info is emailed to me. freel free to
>> email me
>> off list if you want. this goes for the hole list
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 23:28, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I had the same positive experience of being able to leave the
>> Iusacel
>> store with the IPhone speaking. It's very important, I would like
>> to think,
>> to know hese steps; I went as far as to record and Braille hem.
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>
>> El 13/10/2012, a las 20:57, "Rania Ismail LMT"
>> <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>> escribi?:
>>
>> Thank you. Hopeing I remember how to get to voice over just in
>> case they
>> don't know how to turn it on
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> christopher
>> nusbaum
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't think you will need to call ahead. Just ask the person
>> you get
>> at the Apple store to go into settings, general, accessibility,
>> and
>> turn voiceover on. I didn't call ahead when I got my iPhone at
>> our
>> local Verizon store. I just asked the guy to turn voiceover on
>> for me.
>> He didn't know how to do it but once I showed him how he was
>> able to
>> do it easily. It's pretty easy to get to. Hope this helps! Good
>> luck!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rania Ismail LMT
>> <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> I might be going to an apple store this week to look at an Ipod
>> touch
>> and
>> Iphone. Do you need to call ahead of time? I want someone who
>> knows how
>> to
>> tern voice over so I can play with both. Will the Iphone work
>> with Team
>> moble?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Sophie
>> Trist
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:12 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> I don't know if it's my Southern accent or what, but Siri has a
>> hard time understanding me. I rarely send lengthy emails from my
>> phone--I do that with my Apex--but for texts or brief emails, I
>> can type on the touch screen pretty accurately and quickly. Like
>> many, I was reluctant to get an iPhone because the touch screen
>> threw me off. But now, I believe that taking that leap of faith
>> was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Typing on the touch screen isn't too tricky for me, which is
>> probably
>> because it's set up like a standard QWERTY keyboard. I usually
>> use the
>> dictate feature or Siri, though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Molloy
>> <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also on the subject of iPhones, how do people handle texting
>> with the
>> touch screen?
>> Patrick
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can but I don't know how to do it with Itunes. Someone else
>> here
>> should know more.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 10/13/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> If it is a recent iPhone, normally pressing the physical home
>> button
>> 3 times quickly will bring up VoiceOver.  If this doesn't work
>> you
>> will probably have to get sighted assistance, under settings,
>> general, VoiceOver I think.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 11:43 AM 10/13/2012, you wrote:
>> speaking of iphone problems, does any1 no how i can help someone
>> who
>> just got an iphone, he is totaly blind, and doesn't no how to
>> turn on
>> speach
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:03, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joshua,
>> Your comment is of no use to the current topic, and is in fact
>> very
>> rude. Maybe she *gasp* wonder-of-wonders *likes* having a
>> touchscreen.
>> Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean other people
>> shouldn't.
>> You have a tendency to make snarky remarks that are of no help
>> to the
>> person asking the question and personally, I find it very
>> annoying.
>> Please stop. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to
>> say,
>> don't say anything at all.
>> ~Jewel
>>
>> On 10/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gloria, I agree. I would rather use the iPhone with a couple of
>> minor bugs than use another kind of phone. Like you, I was
>> resistent to the whole touch screen thing, but when I went to
>> camp at LCB and saw how efficient everyone was with them, I
>> decided to get one. It is by far the most accessible and
>> advanced
>> phone out there.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:08:46 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have to say, I was one of the people who said I would neveer
>> use a touch
>> screen divice, but I am happy to say I have been using the
>> I-phone for about
>> two weeks or so and I have never been happier. I was nervous at
>> the start,
>> but with some practice I am having no problems. These things
>> just
>> take time.
>> I love my I-phone and everything I can do with it. I do not see
>> myself going
>> to anything else.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <JLester8462 at PCCUAEDU.onmicrosoft.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>>
>> That's one reason why I don't like touch screen devices.
>> I'd quit Apple altogether, and get a phone with ATNT, that has
>> actual
>> buttons.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie
>> Trist
>> [sweetpeareader at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:01 PM
>> To: nabs
>> Subject: [nabs-l] iphone problem
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> It's me Sophie again, and my iPhone has yet another weird
>> problem. If I call someone on my iPhone, whenever I double tap
>> the end button to hang up, my iPhone automatically starts
>> playing
>> music. The same thing happens if someone calls me and I don't
>> answer. This has happened n a couple of very awkward places and
>> I
>> would appreciate any suggestions y'all might have before I call
>> Apple.
>> All the best,
>> Sophie Trist
>>
>>
>>
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