[nabs-l] Powerpoint presentation

Tue Oct 23 00:31:06 UTC 2012

hi arielle,

I am in the same situation as you are, in the sense that i have not
really used power point slides even in school, though they were
available to me. I'd much rather just listen to them and take notes.
what people have told me is to put what triggers you to remember what
you are saying. that way, you won't put to much - you aren't including
what you say, just what triggers you to remember it - and your
audience is getting enough to have an idea of what is being said, but
not enough so taht they can per say, just look at the slides and
ignore you or just ignore you all together and look at slides later.
if you do that, and have a communicative approach to presentations, I
am sure you can keep your audience focused.

Mauricio Almeida
Vice president
Michigan association of blind students

On 10/22/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> One challenge I've had, which perhaps some of you have as well, is not
> knowing exactly what or how much to put on PowerPoint slides because I
> have had far fewer examples to look at than most of my sighted peers
> (who see a PowerPoint every time they go to class or listen to a
> talk). When I am in a class or listening to a presentation I usually
> don't find their PowerPoint slides very helpful, probably because I'm
> trying to listen to the lecture and JAWS reading the slides at the
> same time and I'd rather just listen to what they are saying. So I
> have a hard time gauging what sighted people really need in front of
> them and what is too much. I think I have gotten better at it by
> looking carefully at models that other people have given me for
> specific kinds of presentations (i.e. their dissertation talks) but
> I'd love any other pointers especially if I end up teaching. I know my
> boyfriend went to a teaching workshop once and the instructor advised
> him to use PowerPoint sparingly and not put much text at all on the
> slides. I'd love to do that but I worry that the sighted audience
> isn't getting enough visual information to hold their attention. What
> do you think?
> Arielle
>
> On 10/22/12, Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I think everyone makes a good point here. Ashley is right in saying
>> that everyone works differently and that we all feel comfortable doing
>> whatever works for us. I think the important thing is being flexible
>> and having different methods of getting a task accomplished, so that
>> when there are computer problems, like what Arielle had, or if we are
>> in a setting where it would  be convenient to have someone do
>> something simple for us, we can shift and have a backup plan. As far
>> as Powerpoints, I do something really similar to what Chris mentioned.
>> Usually, I put my Powerpoint text together in a Word document before i
>> go into Powerpoint and actually make the presentation. This is mainly
>> do the the fact that I am abysmal at Powerpoint and only know enough
>> to just copy and paste my text into the different slides. Then, I take
>> that document and put it into my braillenote so that i know what slide
>> is exactly what. For the most part, I've mostly done the whole, go up,
>> do your presentation and hit space as you go along. I feel that this
>> works best because you can control exactly how you want to time
>> yourself and know what slide you are on. Several times, if I was doing
>> a presentation that involved Powerpoint, and some sort of interaction
>> and so on, I have asked if someone can shift the Powerpoint slides,
>> and that has not been a problem. This might be because I'm moving
>> around the room, or whatever, and usually with presentations like
>> this, a lot of my peers used the same system so it wasn't too out of
>> the ordinary.
>> Again, it comes down to whatever works, and making sure that even if
>> there is someone hitting space for you, you are presenting high
>> quality work. It is rare for PCs to have assistive software, so we
>> must learn to be able to work around that in a way that is both
>> respectful to ourselves and to our audience.
>> Sincerely,
>> Mary
>>
>> On 10/22/12, christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Just to add to my previous message about saving the PowerPoint as an
>>> outline and transferring it to a braille note or other notetaker, if
>>> you don't have a notetaker you can still save the PowerPoint as an RTF
>>> and emboss it using a braille embosser and use the hard copy as your
>>> notes.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2012, at 8:29 PM, "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When presenting a PowerPoint in class, it is easy to run your own
>>>> slides
>>>> even without screen reading software on the classroom computer. Once
>>>> you
>>>> have someone open the PowerPoint for you, hitting F5 will start the
>>>> slide
>>>> show, and hitting the space bar will bring you to the next slide.  All
>>>> this requires is a good memory so that you know what each slide is
>>>> about
>>>> and the order of slides. PowerPoint slides are just supposed to be a
>>>> couple bullet points or a chart to back up your points. When presenting
>>>> you never read the slides verbatim, but instead elaborate on the bullet
>>>> points or chart shown.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Donahue"
>>>> <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:15 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Powerpoint presentation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Good evening Ashley and everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>   So what do you do if you're asked to make a presentation using
>>>>> PowerPoint and no one is able to run your slides for you? It seems to
>>>>> me
>>>>> that running your own slides during your presentation is far
>>>>> preferable
>>>>> than
>>>>> depending on someone else to do it for you. Particularly if you have
>>>>> access
>>>>> to a classroom computer or a laptop with screen reading software
>>>>> installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett"
>>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Powerpoint presentation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gloria,
>>>>>
>>>>> This question comes up a lot. I have played with powerpoint plus got
>>>>> training on it.
>>>>> One very helpful resource is the Hadley school for the blind webinars.
>>>>> If
>>>>> interested go to www.hadley.edu.
>>>>> Then click on seminars, then past seminars. Under the technology
>>>>> heading
>>>>> you
>>>>> will see two presentations for powerpoint.
>>>>> Click on part one, then listen to part 2 for more instructions on
>>>>> presenting
>>>>> and fancy effects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have to add in transitions and animations to your slides? If
>>>>> not,
>>>>> its
>>>>> quite easy.
>>>>> To create the powerpoint, assumeing you have office 2010, do this.
>>>>> When it opens, you have a title  slide. Press tab to go between the
>>>>> areas
>>>>> you type called place holders.
>>>>> Type the title. Press escape to go to object level then tab to the
>>>>> next
>>>>> place holder. I think you press enter to go to the edit level. Listen
>>>>> for
>>>>> jaws or your screen reader to say edit. When it says that, type your
>>>>> subtitle.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the ribbon bar is a pain. It takes a while to move to various
>>>>> tabs,
>>>>> unlike the menu system we used to have. Anyway, if you do not need
>>>>> transitions or animations, no ribbon bar needed. Use standard office
>>>>> keyboard commands to move around your text; for instance, control c
>>>>> for
>>>>> copy, control v for paste, and of course control s for save.
>>>>>
>>>>> Insert a slide with command control M. By default you will have a
>>>>> title
>>>>> place holder and a body place holder. I recommend no more than five
>>>>> bullet
>>>>> points per slide. Also, do not clutter it with text. Its meant as an
>>>>> outline; use simple key phrases. You will add to what each bullet
>>>>> point
>>>>> says
>>>>> in your talk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Press control S to save. If you desire to change font, press control D
>>>>> for
>>>>> font dialogue box and press tab to go through it all.
>>>>>
>>>>> For presenting, I second what others said. Make braille notes for
>>>>> yourself
>>>>> and label by slide; meaning write slide 1 and then outline what you'll
>>>>> say,
>>>>> not just what is on the slide show; then write slide 2 and write
>>>>> notes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have someone turn your slides as you go through. Some blind people use
>>>>> a
>>>>> laptop and jaws to hear their slides, but that seems like a lot of
>>>>> trouble.
>>>>> If you use the pc in the classroom, just have them turn the slides and
>>>>> you
>>>>> will be fine. Yes, many times pressing space in slide show mode works,
>>>>> but
>>>>> if you have animations, it won't always work like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Gloria G
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:37 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Powerpoint presentation
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I hope someone can give me some pointers. At the end of this semester
>>>>> I
>>>>> am
>>>>> having to do a power point presentation in one of my classes. I have
>>>>> never
>>>>> put together a powerpoint by myself. I have been involved in group
>>>>> projects
>>>>> in which powerpoints were used, but I only submitted my information
>>>>> and
>>>>> another sighted student incerted my slides. Has anyone had to do this
>>>>> and
>>>>> how have you handled it? I am also concern when the presentation comes
>>>>> how
>>>>> to go through the powerpoint during the presentation. Any help is
>>>>> welcomed.
>>>>> Thanks
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>> --
>> Mary Fernandez
>> Emory 2012
>> "A pioneer is not someone who makes her own soap. She is one who takes
>> up her burdens and walks toward the future."
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