[nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health

Ashley Bramlett bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Fri Sep 14 22:27:32 UTC 2012


Chris,
Well, if you haven't seen  a condom by when you attend college you can.
Just go to your college health center and they'll show you one.  I think I 
saw one once or twice at George mason when I went there.
It’s a rubber piece that fits on you to protect stuff from going through to 
the girl. I believe its kind of baloon shaped.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:04 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health

Hi Arielle,

I, for one, have never even seen a condom to know what one feels
like, so I'm kind of curious as to what a condom really is and
what it looks like.  This may be because of my age, but I don't
think it is entirely that.  If we were to take a survey of
sighted high school students, probably a good many of them have
seen a condom or could at least describe what one looks like, all
weirdness and uncomfortable feelings aside.  So, I really like
your idea of doing a breakout session either at Washington
Seminar or at another NABS/NFB event.  Perhaps the NABS board
could start by submitting the idea to the state NABS Presidents
to see if they would be interested in doing such a breakout
session at their respective state student seminars.  While there
is some truth to Carly's point that sex is a fact of life for
everybody, I also believe that blind people, particularly blind
students, don't get the exposure to sex and related things that
sighted students get.  This is partly because we're not able to
see the visual models and representations that sighted students
are seeing.  Some of them can be reproduced into a tactile
graphic, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a tactile
graphic of a condom.  Therefore, if NABS could do something in
this area, either on the state or national level, I think it
would be a great help to those blind students who are curious
about safe sex as a blind person.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:18:00 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health

Hi all,
I have joked in the past about how NABS should sell Brailled
Whozit
condoms at convention! Kidding aside, though, there are probably
some
NFB leaders with more conservative leanings, who might feel that
NABS
selling condoms at convention would be promoting sexual activity
among
young or unmarried blind students.  I don't agree with that
position,
but some people do and since anything NABS does is, by extension,
an
NFB-sanctioned event, we would need to balance the benefits of
providing condoms against possibly upsetting the NFB leadership
or
bringing on an unwanted political debate.
I would be more likely to support a NABS breakout session, at
Washington Seminar or elsewhere, about sexuality in general, and
perhaps include an opportunity to try putting a condom on the
proverbial banana or some such.  When I was 15, I went to a
diversity
camp (for sighted teens) and there was a sexuality workshop
available
as one of several choices.  They passed around condoms and in
fact,
this was the first time I actually felt one.  A general workshop
about
sex, dating and etiquette, etc.  might be worth having.
Arielle

On 9/10/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello,
This would be an awesome idea! Not only because many people have
never seen

a condom, so they could finger the packages with labels without
having to be

embarrassed, but when I was at the hotel I didn't run into any
condoms in
the store.  Granted I wasn't looking for them, but I was
browsing...  Condoms,

lube and Dental Dams, all labeled in Braille! We would also
probably need to

provide guides for people on how to find the right way to put on
a condom or

use a dental dam.
Another thing I didn't see at the NABS table is hot serial.  The
packing
guide in the nabs newsletter  said to pack a ton of things and I
for one
don't keep hot serial in the house and I don't shop at places
that sell hot

serial, so wasn't able to grab a box.  But I would have loved to
buy a box
for even $10 or more, the breakfasts there were $10 alone...
(Then of course

we could sell bole and spoon packs for the poor folks who didn't
bring their

own utensil's).
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Anmol Bhatia
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:28 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health


You would be a good place to sell and buy condoms? At the NFB
convention...

Perhaps Nabs should sell condoms at the NABS table.  We can even
braille them

so the perso can know what kind of condoms they have.  lol

Anmol

I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.
Perhaps
there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague,
like a breeze
among flowers.
Hellen Keller


--- On Sun, 9/9/12, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, "National Association of Blind Students
mailing list"

<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date: Sunday, September 9, 2012, 10:54 PM
Hi, Brandon,

I went into a place in Denver to  buy a dildo yes, on
the bigger, ribbed side to use in the old fashioned bath tub
I had at the time, to get myself off with the faucet.
Traditionally, I need something in my ass, to cum.  If I
remember, the folks in their wer very cool, look at the
blind girl going to by herself a dildo! Don't worry! If
you're relaxed, and cool about what you're doing so will be
the bookstore, personnel.  Let us know how goes it,
okay?  At 04:52 PM 9/8/2012, SA Mobile wrote:
Those are the best places to get stuff as the staff are
professional and are trained to make customers feel at ease.
Just make sure the shop is of good repute.

Respectfully,
Jedi

Sent from my iPhone

On 08/09/2012, at 12:36 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
<brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
wrote:

Hello,
Thank goodness my father was a nurse and when I
turned 18, he said addio to being in with me at the doctor.
I do find it amusing though that some doctors are actually
really uncomfortable touching me because I'm blind...  That
only happened after my dad started leaving the room.
Thank you Arielle for those websites.  I don't feel
that condoms are something I want to buy from a website I've
never heard of before unless someone I know has gotten or
knows that site is trust worthy.
I was told that flavored condoms were only to be
used in oral intercourse.  The same is not for lube I
presume?
Also, has anyone ever gone into a sex store? How
was it as a blind shopper? Even from sighted people I hear
the experience is often not pleasant.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- From: Arielle
Silverman
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:00 AM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health

Hi all,
I know the recent discussions about sex and dating
are kind of in a
gray area as to whether or not they're on-topic
for this list, since
most of the issues Koby brought up are not really
unique to blindness.
So if the moderators or Dave feel this is getting
too far afield, I
will happily respect your judgment.  However, I
also think that
Brandon's question about where to get condoms is a
legitimate one and
that there might be other blind people out here,
including teenagers,
who have similar concerns about how to get
condoms, birth control or
sexual health information without a lot of
awkwardness or
embarrassment.  It can be particularly difficult if
you have to depend
on someone else (especially parents) for
transportation which can make
going to a clinic or drugstore difficult.
There are a few places to buy condoms online,
including
www.condomania.com
www.undercovercondoms.com
and
www.condomdepot.com
Believe it or not, they also have some condom
choices at
www.amazon.com
If you go to your health center on campus for any
reason, it shouldn't
be a problem  to ask a doctor or nurse there
about condoms.
I cannot answer the questions about when to begin
having sex with a
partner because that is a highly individual
decision.  However, I feel
it important that anyone who is considering having
sex for the first
time ensure you understand what all of your
options are for preventing
pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases, the
advantages and
disadvantages of each option, and the proper way
to use condoms  and
birth control.  There are  a couple different
websites with this kind
of information:
www.plannedparenthood.org
(includes live chat with a sexual health educator)
or
www.scarleteen.com
This issue is particularly close to my heart at
the moment because my
boyfriend's sister just had an unintended
pregnancy at a very
inopportune time (while still in college, with a
guy she had only
known for a few months) and was apparently taking
birth control pills,
but had not been taking them consistently.  While I
don't believe that
sex  should be feared, it is something that
takes some responsibility,
planning and foresight to ensure it is enjoyable
while minimizing the
risks.  Also, while I won't go into details here,
there are other ways
to be physically intimate with someone that are
less risky, which
these online forums will talk about.
I also want to bring up  an issue that is
somewhat relevant to sexual
health, which I experienced and I think that some
of you might also be
struggling with.  This is the issue of having your
parents drive you to
doctors' appointments and then having them want to
sit in or even
participate in your appointments.  Since I attended
college in my home
city, my mother always wanted to drive me to my
doctors' appointments
and would then want to come in and chat with the
doctor while he/she
was examining me.  This was partly because my
parents and I saw many of
the same doctors and she often thought it was a
good opportunity to
ask the doctor a quick question about her own
health while she was
there, or because she was curious to see what the
doctor recommended
to me about a particular issue.  I eventually
realized that while it
wasn't ill-intentioned, it was a violation of my
privacy as an adult
patient and I asked her to wait in the waiting
room while I was seeing
the doctor.  I didn't actually take this stand
until I was 21 and in
hindsight I wish I had done  it much earlier.
By the time you are 18,
unless you have a serious cognitive disability,
you have a right to
privacy of your medical information and it is
important to establish a
good doctor-patient relationship without a third
person interfering.
This is especially true when it comes to sexual
health and by the time
you are 18 or even 16, you will want to start
discussing your sexual
activities or questions with your doctors without
your parents being
around.  You might also want to consider getting a
driver or even
taking the bus to medical appointments to avoid
this problem.
On a related note, by the time you are in high
school, you should know
the names of all medications you take on  a
regular basis and any
chronic medical conditions you may have.  If you
ever have to go to the
emergency room, this kind  of information may
be requested of you.
Best,
Arielle

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