[nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?

Tue May 14 04:38:53 UTC 2013

A new infraction, TUI (traveling under the influence)
CarAt 07:13 PM 5/13/2013, Darian Smith wrote:
>That makes sense, a lot of sense.
>  well.. except for that's the first I  have heard of someone 
> succeeding a little more so at traveling  when they have had 
> something to drink; guess we should try to  incorporate that into 
> cane travel curriculum at our training centers *smile*
>
>   at  functions with blind people I would even  venture to say that 
> it's tough to get your own cane back just because someone almost 
> always walks out with someone else's cane haha
>On May 13, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I like to jump and twirl around a lot while dancing, so if I tried
> > putting my cane down somewhere next to me I would definitely lose it
> > by the end, and I tend to get kind of disoriented in the process of
> > doing that so finding my table or corner again without a cane can be
> > kind of tricky. Although if I've had a drink or two, I tend to be a
> > better traveler... Or maybe just a more confident one. :)
> > I haven't gone out dancing for a long while now so I don't remember if
> > I kept a purse with me or not. If I went to a club or somewhere else
> > where I didn't know many people then I think I would keep it on, but I
> > would probably prefer to carry a small purse that might not be big
> > enough for the cane. I've actually had the most cane trouble at dances
> > with other blind people, because everybody has a cane and there aren't
> > many folks to keep an eye on your cane for you. I suppose the purse or
> > cane holster might be the best solution, unless there are good sound
> > cues in the venue and it's not so crowded as to be impossible to
> > navigate without a cane.
> > Arielle
> >
> > On 5/13/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
> >> I thought I'd chyme in on this one!
> >> I hate dancing, because the dances I've been to, had a DJ that only played
> >> rap music.
> >> Where's the classic Country when I need it?
> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Darian Smith
> >> [dsmithnfb at gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:41 PM
> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
> >>
> >> You are just brave, I guess. hahaha
> >> On May 13, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Arielle Silverman 
> <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes--and it's funny that everyone who responded to this thread before
> >>> me has been male?
> >>> Arielle
> >>>
> >>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Haha, indeed!  I obviously wasn't thinking very clearly...I suppose
> >>>> that would work for any of us guys, if we didn't really care about
> >>>> looking strange...just one of the reasons guys have it easier, I
> >>>> guess.  :)
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Right, but if I'm going dancing I'm not going to be wearing anything
> >>>>> that holds a belt! How can you stow a cane on a dress? Just thinking
> >>>>> about it is kind of hilarious!
> >>>>> Arielle
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> HI Arielle,
> >>>>>> I've seen those funky cane holster thingies that attach to a belt
> >>>>>> loop or something, maybe there are versions somewhere for telescopic
> >>>>>> canes?  I think they look kind of silly, personally but I suppose it's
> >>>>>> an option.
> >>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>> Kirt
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>> I was fortunate to grow up among many Jewish kids who all had bar and
> >>>>>>> bat mitzvahs, (Jewish celebrations of coming-of-age that happen at
> >>>>>>> age
> >>>>>>> 12 or 13) and most had dance parties for their bar and bat mitzvahs,
> >>>>>>> so I became comfortable with dancing and potentially looking stupid
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> quite a young age. :) I'm sure some people taught me how to dance,
> >>>>>>> though I can't remember who and honestly, by now I've forgotten most
> >>>>>>> of my formal instruction. I do remember being told that dancing is
> >>>>>>> mainly about having fun and just moving your body to the beat of the
> >>>>>>> music. I'm sure I don't dance perfectly but I've always had fun and
> >>>>>>> nobody has ever criticized my dancing or not wanted to be with me on
> >>>>>>> the dance floor because of my dancing. So I don't think you need to
> >>>>>>> worry too much about how you appear to others. If the group is doing
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> line dance like the YMCA, and you don't know the moves for that
> >>>>>>> particular dance, there's no problem with sitting it out or just
> >>>>>>> moving off the dance floor to talk to people, or go get a drink or
> >>>>>>> snack or whatever, during that song. If you want to learn some
> >>>>>>> things,
> >>>>>>> you could ask a friend or family member who has lots of dancing
> >>>>>>> experience to teach you or just to watch your moves and tell you
> >>>>>>> what's good and what you could change or improve on. Also, slow
> >>>>>>> dancing is easy for girls who are just supposed to follow the man,
> >>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>> if you're a guy and want to learn how to slow-dance with women you
> >>>>>>> may
> >>>>>>> want to get a little bit of formal instruction.
> >>>>>>> One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is where to put my cane
> >>>>>>> while dancing. When I was younger I would just go with a sighted
> >>>>>>> friend and stash my cane at a table while my friend and I danced. Now
> >>>>>>> I'm less comfortable being with the same person all night and I'd
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> to be able to keep track of my cane myself without having it on the
> >>>>>>> dance floor with me. If I go to a dancing event I usually am not
> >>>>>>> wearing clothes that allow for storage of a telescoping cane, unless
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> bring a purse and keep it on me while dancing, which I suppose is an
> >>>>>>> option. I'm curious if others have found good ways to manage this
> >>>>>>> issue. The best solution I've used is to find a sound landmark of
> >>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>> sort like the bar or music stand and put my cane in a corner near
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> spot. But this doesn't work as well in large venues.
> >>>>>>> Arielle
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 5/12/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Get a guy then; it's cool.  That works.  Longg as he can dance a
> >>>>>>>> little,
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> is a good teacher.  Tell him to move you your body for you at first
> >>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> can get the movement.  In japah, that is how the black belts teach
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> white
> >>>>>>>> belts.  That is how my instructor instructs me.  Also, if you don't
> >>>>>>>> drink,
> >>>>>>>> then that is fine too.  That is just a trick I use.  You can do the
> >>>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>>> thing with a cup of water, or a soda; it should work the same way.
> >>>>>>>> If
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> don't want to hang onto a cup like that, then any of the other
> >>>>>>>> methods
> >>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>> work just fine.  You just got to mix and match my man.  Mix and
> >>>>>>>> match.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian
> >>>>>>>> Smith
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:10 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi listers:  should gender matter  in who teaches you?
> >>>>>>>> and  what would you suggest if you cannot or  choose not to  partake
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> alcoholic  beverages?
> >>>>>>>> I think these are very interesting points indeed,  Just curious as
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>> ways you might go about it?
> >>>>>>>> Thanks Justin!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Darian
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:59 PM, justin williams
> >>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Get a friend, preferably a girl to teach you how to dance.
> >>>>>>>>> Sometimes
> >>>>>>>>> keeping a drink in your hand will give you an excuse not to dance.
> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I avoid dance clubs like the plague if at all possible;
> >>>>>>>>> however, there are just times in social situations where you just
> >>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> to shake a leg.  Do the best you can.  Just move your hips and try
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> keep up with the beat.  There are a lot of other people out there
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> you who can't dance either.  They also look terrible.  If you
> >>>>>>>>> drink,
> >>>>>>>>> it loosen's you up just a little.  It doen't make you better, you
> >>>>>>>>> jus
> >>>>>>>>> think you are.  Smile just a little even if you don't like dancing,
> >>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>> aren't very good at it.  The appearance of enjoyment, or hopefully
> >>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> are actually enjoying your self, lets everyone see that you are
> >>>>>>>>> confident; you can't dance and you know it, but you don't care.  It
> >>>>>>>>> helps.  I feel you man; I'm in the same boat as you accept I have
> >>>>>>>>> learned a few tricks to fake it until I can get off of the dance
> >>>>>>>>> floor.  I get fairly drunk on nights like that if I go out with a
> >>>>>>>>> group of people because I am using trips to the bar as an excuse
> >>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> dance.  Remember, if possible, get a friend, especially a girl to
> >>>>>>>> teach
> >>>>>>>> you.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian
> >>>>>>>>> Smith
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:36 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>> Please  excuse  the slight 80's song reference,  but I am curious
> >>>>>>>>> about how you all go about attending social functions where dancing
> >>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> a part of the atmosphere?
> >>>>>>>>> Do you decide to not  take part in it because you don't know how to
> >>>>>>>>> dance?
> >>>>>>>>> are you too shy?   Do you just get out there regardless?
> >>>>>>>>> On Dancing, how do you learn how to dance  if you can't do what a
> >>>>>>>>> lot
> >>>>>>>>> of folks do and watch it  on television  or the internet?
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Darian
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