[nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?

Tue May 14 04:45:21 UTC 2013

Carly,
I'm not offended at all, so don't even worry about it.

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On May 13, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:

> A new infraction, TUI (traveling under the influence)
> CarAt 07:13 PM 5/13/2013, Darian Smith wrote:
>> That makes sense, a lot of sense.
>> well.. except for that's the first I  have heard of someone succeeding a little more so at traveling  when they have had something to drink; guess we should try to  incorporate that into cane travel curriculum at our training centers *smile*
>> 
>>  at  functions with blind people I would even  venture to say that it's tough to get your own cane back just because someone almost always walks out with someone else's cane haha
>> On May 13, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > I like to jump and twirl around a lot while dancing, so if I tried
>> > putting my cane down somewhere next to me I would definitely lose it
>> > by the end, and I tend to get kind of disoriented in the process of
>> > doing that so finding my table or corner again without a cane can be
>> > kind of tricky. Although if I've had a drink or two, I tend to be a
>> > better traveler... Or maybe just a more confident one. :)
>> > I haven't gone out dancing for a long while now so I don't remember if
>> > I kept a purse with me or not. If I went to a club or somewhere else
>> > where I didn't know many people then I think I would keep it on, but I
>> > would probably prefer to carry a small purse that might not be big
>> > enough for the cane. I've actually had the most cane trouble at dances
>> > with other blind people, because everybody has a cane and there aren't
>> > many folks to keep an eye on your cane for you. I suppose the purse or
>> > cane holster might be the best solution, unless there are good sound
>> > cues in the venue and it's not so crowded as to be impossible to
>> > navigate without a cane.
>> > Arielle
>> >
>> > On 5/13/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>> >> I thought I'd chyme in on this one!
>> >> I hate dancing, because the dances I've been to, had a DJ that only played
>> >> rap music.
>> >> Where's the classic Country when I need it?
>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>> >> ________________________________________
>> >> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Darian Smith
>> >> [dsmithnfb at gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:41 PM
>> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>> >>
>> >> You are just brave, I guess. hahaha
>> >> On May 13, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Yes--and it's funny that everyone who responded to this thread before
>> >>> me has been male?
>> >>> Arielle
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Haha, indeed!  I obviously wasn't thinking very clearly...I suppose
>> >>>> that would work for any of us guys, if we didn't really care about
>> >>>> looking strange...just one of the reasons guys have it easier, I
>> >>>> guess.  :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Right, but if I'm going dancing I'm not going to be wearing anything
>> >>>>> that holds a belt! How can you stow a cane on a dress? Just thinking
>> >>>>> about it is kind of hilarious!
>> >>>>> Arielle
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> HI Arielle,
>> >>>>>> I've seen those funky cane holster thingies that attach to a belt
>> >>>>>> loop or something, maybe there are versions somewhere for telescopic
>> >>>>>> canes?  I think they look kind of silly, personally but I suppose it's
>> >>>>>> an option.
>> >>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>> Kirt
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>>> I was fortunate to grow up among many Jewish kids who all had bar and
>> >>>>>>> bat mitzvahs, (Jewish celebrations of coming-of-age that happen at
>> >>>>>>> age
>> >>>>>>> 12 or 13) and most had dance parties for their bar and bat mitzvahs,
>> >>>>>>> so I became comfortable with dancing and potentially looking stupid
>> >>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>> quite a young age. :) I'm sure some people taught me how to dance,
>> >>>>>>> though I can't remember who and honestly, by now I've forgotten most
>> >>>>>>> of my formal instruction. I do remember being told that dancing is
>> >>>>>>> mainly about having fun and just moving your body to the beat of the
>> >>>>>>> music. I'm sure I don't dance perfectly but I've always had fun and
>> >>>>>>> nobody has ever criticized my dancing or not wanted to be with me on
>> >>>>>>> the dance floor because of my dancing. So I don't think you need to
>> >>>>>>> worry too much about how you appear to others. If the group is doing
>> >>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>> line dance like the YMCA, and you don't know the moves for that
>> >>>>>>> particular dance, there's no problem with sitting it out or just
>> >>>>>>> moving off the dance floor to talk to people, or go get a drink or
>> >>>>>>> snack or whatever, during that song. If you want to learn some
>> >>>>>>> things,
>> >>>>>>> you could ask a friend or family member who has lots of dancing
>> >>>>>>> experience to teach you or just to watch your moves and tell you
>> >>>>>>> what's good and what you could change or improve on. Also, slow
>> >>>>>>> dancing is easy for girls who are just supposed to follow the man,
>> >>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>> if you're a guy and want to learn how to slow-dance with women you
>> >>>>>>> may
>> >>>>>>> want to get a little bit of formal instruction.
>> >>>>>>> One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is where to put my cane
>> >>>>>>> while dancing. When I was younger I would just go with a sighted
>> >>>>>>> friend and stash my cane at a table while my friend and I danced. Now
>> >>>>>>> I'm less comfortable being with the same person all night and I'd
>> >>>>>>> like
>> >>>>>>> to be able to keep track of my cane myself without having it on the
>> >>>>>>> dance floor with me. If I go to a dancing event I usually am not
>> >>>>>>> wearing clothes that allow for storage of a telescoping cane, unless
>> >>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>> bring a purse and keep it on me while dancing, which I suppose is an
>> >>>>>>> option. I'm curious if others have found good ways to manage this
>> >>>>>>> issue. The best solution I've used is to find a sound landmark of
>> >>>>>>> some
>> >>>>>>> sort like the bar or music stand and put my cane in a corner near
>> >>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>> spot. But this doesn't work as well in large venues.
>> >>>>>>> Arielle
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 5/12/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Get a guy then; it's cool.  That works.  Longg as he can dance a
>> >>>>>>>> little,
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> is a good teacher.  Tell him to move you your body for you at first
>> >>>>>>>> so
>> >>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>> can get the movement.  In japah, that is how the black belts teach
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> white
>> >>>>>>>> belts.  That is how my instructor instructs me.  Also, if you don't
>> >>>>>>>> drink,
>> >>>>>>>> then that is fine too.  That is just a trick I use.  You can do the
>> >>>>>>>> same
>> >>>>>>>> thing with a cup of water, or a soda; it should work the same way.
>> >>>>>>>> If
>> >>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>> don't want to hang onto a cup like that, then any of the other
>> >>>>>>>> methods
>> >>>>>>>> will
>> >>>>>>>> work just fine.  You just got to mix and match my man.  Mix and
>> >>>>>>>> match.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian
>> >>>>>>>> Smith
>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:10 PM
>> >>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi listers:  should gender matter  in who teaches you?
>> >>>>>>>> and  what would you suggest if you cannot or  choose not to  partake
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> alcoholic  beverages?
>> >>>>>>>> I think these are very interesting points indeed,  Just curious as
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> other
>> >>>>>>>> ways you might go about it?
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Justin!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Darian
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:59 PM, justin williams
>> >>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Get a friend, preferably a girl to teach you how to dance.
>> >>>>>>>>> Sometimes
>> >>>>>>>>> keeping a drink in your hand will give you an excuse not to dance.
>> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I avoid dance clubs like the plague if at all possible;
>> >>>>>>>>> however, there are just times in social situations where you just
>> >>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>> to shake a leg.  Do the best you can.  Just move your hips and try
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> keep up with the beat.  There are a lot of other people out there
>> >>>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>>> you who can't dance either.  They also look terrible.  If you
>> >>>>>>>>> drink,
>> >>>>>>>>> it loosen's you up just a little.  It doen't make you better, you
>> >>>>>>>>> jus
>> >>>>>>>>> think you are.  Smile just a little even if you don't like dancing,
>> >>>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>>> aren't very good at it.  The appearance of enjoyment, or hopefully
>> >>>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>>> are actually enjoying your self, lets everyone see that you are
>> >>>>>>>>> confident; you can't dance and you know it, but you don't care.  It
>> >>>>>>>>> helps.  I feel you man; I'm in the same boat as you accept I have
>> >>>>>>>>> learned a few tricks to fake it until I can get off of the dance
>> >>>>>>>>> floor.  I get fairly drunk on nights like that if I go out with a
>> >>>>>>>>> group of people because I am using trips to the bar as an excuse
>> >>>>>>>>> not
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> dance.  Remember, if possible, get a friend, especially a girl to
>> >>>>>>>> teach
>> >>>>>>>> you.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian
>> >>>>>>>>> Smith
>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:36 PM
>> >>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>>>>> Please  excuse  the slight 80's song reference,  but I am curious
>> >>>>>>>>> about how you all go about attending social functions where dancing
>> >>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>> a part of the atmosphere?
>> >>>>>>>>> Do you decide to not  take part in it because you don't know how to
>> >>>>>>>>> dance?
>> >>>>>>>>> are you too shy?   Do you just get out there regardless?
>> >>>>>>>>> On Dancing, how do you learn how to dance  if you can't do what a
>> >>>>>>>>> lot
>> >>>>>>>>> of folks do and watch it  on television  or the internet?
>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Darian
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