[nabs-l] Can dance if I want to?
Darian Smith
dsmithnfb at gmail.com
Tue May 14 14:23:36 UTC 2013
Wasif,
fair points.
could it not be equally true that there are folks with vision that can't dance?
and it's probably important to know certain dances more than to know how to dance to every song a DJ plays. I would probably venture to say that it's impossible to do it any other way.
thoughts?
On May 14, 2013, at 7:02 AM, "Wasif, Zunaira" <Zunaira.Wasif at dbs.fldoe.org> wrote:
> My opinion is a little different on this one. I think its really
> important to dance correctly. Even little things can make you look
> awkward. Maybe I'm a little perfectionistic in this area, but there are
> a lot of very subtle moves involved in dancing. If it doesn't come
> naturally to you, you need to really work on it. I've seen a lot of
> visually impaired people that have no idea what's going on. On the
> other hand, I've seen a lot of people that are doing just fine.
>
> Zunaira
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
> Silverman
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 11:36 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>
> I really want to hear from more women about whether the purse-cane stash
> is a viable option.
> Arielle
>
> On 5/13/13, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> true,
>> In some cases though, I feel like you are going to have to get
> someone
>> with vision to show you some dances like "Gangnam style" or Douggie"
>> It's not critical if you don't know, but is always helpful If the
>> song comes on and you want to dance to it (darn catchy songs)., On
>> May 13, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been to quite a few dancing functions, (wedding receptions,
>>> homecomings and prom, formals and semiformals at my university, etc).
>>> I think as long as you're moving to the beat and you're having a good
>
>>> time it's not a huge deal. A lot of the time the other people around
>
>>> you will be so caught up in their own dancing or socializing that
>>> they won't really take much notice if you're doing something slightly
>
>>> unconventional. When in doubt you could always step from side to
>>> side and just get your shoulders into it. For guys leading a slow
>>> dance mainly involves putting your hands on the girl's waist or
>>> shoulders, (whichever she's comfortable with), and just swaying as
>>> you step in a circle. It can be a little awkward the first time you
>>> do it, but it is for most guys from what I've seen.
>>>
>>> Guys have the advantage of having deep pockets. When I went to prom
>>> my boyfriend had a straight cane and I had a folding one, so we left
>>> his at our table and I lead with him holding onto my elbow until we
>>> got to the dance floor, then I folded up and he put the cane in his
>>> tux pocket. At the last formal we went to I had a telescopic cane
>>> and a purse which handily enough had metal rings between the top of
>>> the purse and the ends of the straps. I was able to slide the cane
>>> through the loops and because the rings were the right size it was a
>>> pretty secure fit. It was kind of annoying wearing the purse after a
>
>>> while though, and I think I eventually just put it on the table with
>>> my coat and went without it. I strategically chose my table, so it
>>> wasn't really an issue of knowing where to go to find it when I
>>> needed to during the dance.
>>>
>>> I've been trying to figure out better ways to go about stowing the
>>> cane myself, especially when wearing formalwear like a prom dress as
>>> opposed to just a nicer homecoming-style one. I like taking smaller
>>> canes that fold up or telescope for situations like this, so I
>>> probably won't ever bring a straight cane to something like this and
>>> save eit for more day-to-day use. I think just finding n easily
>>> locatable spot is key not just for your cane, but so you can find all
>
>>> your other stuff when your done dancing.
>>>
>>> On 5/13/13, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes that does sound pretty funny, now that you mention it, Arielle.
>
>>>> But it's not like guys (not many of them at least), rock a purse
>>>> so... hahahaha On May 13, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Arielle Silverman
>>>> <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Right, but if I'm going dancing I'm not going to be wearing
>>>>> anything that holds a belt! How can you stow a cane on a dress?
>>>>> Just thinking about it is kind of hilarious!
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> HI Arielle,
>>>>>> I've seen those funky cane holster thingies that attach to a belt
>>>>>> loop or something, maybe there are versions somewhere for
>>>>>> telescopic canes? I think they look kind of silly, personally but
>
>>>>>> I suppose it's an option.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I was fortunate to grow up among many Jewish kids who all had bar
>
>>>>>>> and bat mitzvahs, (Jewish celebrations of coming-of-age that
>>>>>>> happen at age
>>>>>>> 12 or 13) and most had dance parties for their bar and bat
>>>>>>> mitzvahs, so I became comfortable with dancing and potentially
>>>>>>> looking stupid at quite a young age. :) I'm sure some people
>>>>>>> taught me how to dance, though I can't remember who and honestly,
>
>>>>>>> by now I've forgotten most of my formal instruction. I do
>>>>>>> remember being told that dancing is mainly about having fun and
>>>>>>> just moving your body to the beat of the music. I'm sure I don't
>>>>>>> dance perfectly but I've always had fun and nobody has ever
>>>>>>> criticized my dancing or not wanted to be with me on the dance
>>>>>>> floor because of my dancing. So I don't think you need to worry
>>>>>>> too much about how you appear to others. If the group is doing a
>>>>>>> line dance like the YMCA, and you don't know the moves for that
>>>>>>> particular dance, there's no problem with sitting it out or just
>>>>>>> moving off the dance floor to talk to people, or go get a drink
>>>>>>> or snack or whatever, during that song. If you want to learn some
>
>>>>>>> things, you could ask a friend or family member who has lots of
>>>>>>> dancing experience to teach you or just to watch your moves and
>>>>>>> tell you what's good and what you could change or improve on.
>>>>>>> Also, slow dancing is easy for girls who are just supposed to
>>>>>>> follow the man, but if you're a guy and want to learn how to
>>>>>>> slow-dance with women you may want to get a little bit of formal
>>>>>>> instruction.
>>>>>>> One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is where to put my cane
>
>>>>>>> while dancing. When I was younger I would just go with a sighted
>>>>>>> friend and stash my cane at a table while my friend and I danced.
>
>>>>>>> Now I'm less comfortable being with the same person all night and
>
>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to keep track of my cane myself without
>>>>>>> having it on the dance floor with me. If I go to a dancing event
>>>>>>> I usually am not wearing clothes that allow for storage of a
>>>>>>> telescoping cane, unless I bring a purse and keep it on me while
>>>>>>> dancing, which I suppose is an option. I'm curious if others have
>
>>>>>>> found good ways to manage this issue. The best solution I've used
>
>>>>>>> is to find a sound landmark of some sort like the bar or music
>>>>>>> stand and put my cane in a corner near that spot. But this
>>>>>>> doesn't work as well in large venues.
>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/12/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Get a guy then; it's cool. That works. Longg as he can dance a
>
>>>>>>>> little, and is a good teacher. Tell him to move you your body
>>>>>>>> for you at first so you can get the movement. In japah, that is
>
>>>>>>>> how the black belts teach the white belts. That is how my
>>>>>>>> instructor instructs me. Also, if you don't drink, then that is
>
>>>>>>>> fine too. That is just a trick I use. You can do the same
>>>>>>>> thing with a cup of water, or a soda; it should work the same
> way.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> don't want to hang onto a cup like that, then any of the other
>>>>>>>> methods will work just fine. You just got to mix and match my
>>>>>>>> man. Mix and match.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Darian Smith
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:10 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi listers: should gender matter in who teaches you?
>>>>>>>> and what would you suggest if you cannot or choose not to
>>>>>>>> partake in alcoholic beverages?
>>>>>>>> I think these are very interesting points indeed, Just curious
>>>>>>>> as to other ways you might go about it?
>>>>>>>> Thanks Justin!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:59 PM, justin williams
>>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get a friend, preferably a girl to teach you how to dance.
>>>>>>>>> Sometimes
>>>>>>>>> keeping a drink in your hand will give you an excuse not to
> dance.
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I avoid dance clubs like the plague if at all
>>>>>>>>> possible; however, there are just times in social situations
>>>>>>>>> where you just have to shake a leg. Do the best you can. Just
>
>>>>>>>>> move your hips and try to keep up with the beat. There are a
>>>>>>>>> lot of other people out there with you who can't dance either.
>
>>>>>>>>> They also look terrible. If you drink, it loosen's you up just
>
>>>>>>>>> a little. It doen't make you better, you jus think you are.
>>>>>>>>> Smile just a little even if you don't like dancing, or aren't
>>>>>>>>> very good at it. The appearance of enjoyment, or hopefully you
>
>>>>>>>>> are actually enjoying your self, lets everyone see that you are
>
>>>>>>>>> confident; you can't dance and you know it, but you don't care.
>
>>>>>>>>> It helps. I feel you man; I'm in the same boat as you accept I
>
>>>>>>>>> have learned a few tricks to fake it until I can get off of the
>
>>>>>>>>> dance floor. I get fairly drunk on nights like that if I go
>>>>>>>>> out with a group of people because I am using trips to the bar
>>>>>>>>> as an excuse not to
>>>>>>>> dance. Remember, if possible, get a friend, especially a girl
>>>>>>>> to teach you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>> Darian Smith
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:36 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the slight 80's song reference, but I am
>>>>>>>>> curious about how you all go about attending social functions
>>>>>>>>> where dancing is a part of the atmosphere?
>>>>>>>>> Do you decide to not take part in it because you don't know
>>>>>>>>> how to dance?
>>>>>>>>> are you too shy? Do you just get out there regardless?
>>>>>>>>> On Dancing, how do you learn how to dance if you can't do what
>
>>>>>>>>> a lot of folks do and watch it on television or the internet?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Darian
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