[nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?

Kaiti Shelton crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
Tue May 14 16:50:03 UTC 2013 

On 5/13/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep, you got it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:16 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>
> So I guess the main takeaways are.
> 1. If you want to learn how to dance, it is best  to get a friend or family
> member to teach you.
> 2 It's probably better to use a collapsable/telescoping  cane, especially
> in
> larger dance halls.
>  3. Confidence (as in many aspects in life) is key; even if it's liquid
> courage *smile* (don't worry under-agers, confidence is much better than
> the
> alternative because you'll  feel better in the morning hahaha) 4. ladies,
> it's all in the purse (where  would we  be without you, Julie? *smile*).
> 5. ladies: feel free to use  your date as a cane storer( . if  it works.
> I'm
> starting to get the idea that the ladies  have a  easier time here than the
> fellas).
>   6. Cane holders may or not be an option ( experimentation is probably
> where it's at on this one, again, unless your date doubles as a cane storer
> *smile*)  7. It's all about country music. no, it's all about rap. nope,
> all
> about having fun, so just go with it!
>  does that just about cover it?
>  yay for NABS!
>  now back to the academic  stuff.
>  )
>
> .
> On May 13, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,  I don't go to these types of functions a lot if I can help
>> it...  But I used to go to formals when I was in high school.  Back
>> then I went with a group of friends.  We all had a pact that we would
>> never leave one of our group alone.  It wasn't about me being blind or
>> anything; we just didn't want to lose each other.
>>
>> Of course, that isn't practical  now that I'm older.  But I don't
>> think I would ever set my cane aside in a corner or against a wall at
>> a dance party.  There are too many people.  It is very easy to lose
>> your friends  or whoever you are with.  Dances are also kind of
>> disorienting to me because of the noise and the crowds, so I would
>> feel nervous without my cane to help me get out.  For the women, I
>> would suggest getting a purse.  You can get a light wait one that
>> hangs over your shoulder and in front of you.  Just make it as light
>> as you can to help you dance, but make sure it's big enough for a
>> cane.  There are all types of purses.  If your outfit is dark, you can
>> match a black one, and if you're wearing a brighter colored dress,
>> then go with something silver.  Having a matching dress and shoes is
>> always a good way to go.  You don't even need a heavy leather purse.
>> A light, cloth one will do.  It also depends on your dress too and how
>> formal the event is.  To be honest, I would feel safer keeping a purse
>> on me as a blind person because I would hate to misplace something
>> like that at a dance and be unable to find it again.  Also, girls, a
>> purse is a great place to store the heals when you get tired of them.
>>
>> As for the dancing, I don't know since I avoid it whenever possible.
>> I'd rather talk to people and listen to music I actually like.  The
>> club type music isn't really my thing either.  But it's easy enough to
>> learn standard dances from a trusted friend or family member.  My
>> friends taught me and/or led me through all those dances in high
>> school.  But I'd still rather not dance at all.  :)
>>
>> On 5/13/13, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Carly,
>>> I'm not offended at all, so don't even worry about it.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 13, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A new infraction, TUI (traveling under the influence) CarAt 07:13 PM
>>>> 5/13/2013, Darian Smith wrote:
>>>>> That makes sense, a lot of sense.
>>>>> well.. except for that's the first I  have heard of someone
>>>>> succeeding a little more so at traveling  when they have had
>>>>> something to drink; guess we should try to  incorporate that into
>>>>> cane travel curriculum at our training centers *smile*
>>>>>
>>>>> at  functions with blind people I would even  venture to say that
>>>>> it's tough to get your own cane back just because someone almost
>>>>> always walks out with someone else's cane haha On May 13, 2013, at
>>>>> 7:00 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I like to jump and twirl around a lot while dancing, so if I tried
>>>>>> putting my cane down somewhere next to me I would definitely lose
>>>>>> it by the end, and I tend to get kind of disoriented in the
>>>>>> process of doing that so finding my table or corner again without
>>>>>> a cane can be kind of tricky. Although if I've had a drink or two,
>>>>>> I tend to be a better traveler... Or maybe just a more confident
>>>>>> one. :) I haven't gone out dancing for a long while now so I don't
>>>>>> remember if I kept a purse with me or not. If I went to a club or
>>>>>> somewhere else where I didn't know many people then I think I
>>>>>> would keep it on, but I would probably prefer to carry a small
>>>>>> purse that might not be big enough for the cane. I've actually had
>>>>>> the most cane trouble at dances with other blind people, because
>>>>>> everybody has a cane and there aren't many folks to keep an eye on
>>>>>> your cane for you. I suppose the purse or cane holster might be
>>>>>> the best solution, unless there are good sound cues in the venue
>>>>>> and it's not so crowded as to be impossible to navigate without a
> cane.
>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> I thought I'd chyme in on this one!
>>>>>>> I hate dancing, because the dances I've been to, had a DJ that
>>>>>>> only played rap music.
>>>>>>> Where's the classic Country when I need it?
>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Darian
>>>>>>> Smith [dsmithnfb at gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:41 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are just brave, I guess. hahaha On May 13, 2013, at 6:22 PM,
>>>>>>> Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes--and it's funny that everyone who responded to this thread
>>>>>>>> before me has been male?
>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Haha, indeed!  I obviously wasn't thinking very clearly...I
>>>>>>>>> suppose that would work for any of us guys, if we didn't really
>>>>>>>>> care about looking strange...just one of the reasons guys have
>>>>>>>>> it easier, I guess.  :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Right, but if I'm going dancing I'm not going to be wearing
>>>>>>>>>> anything that holds a belt! How can you stow a cane on a
>>>>>>>>>> dress? Just thinking about it is kind of hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> HI Arielle,
>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen those funky cane holster thingies that attach to a
>>>>>>>>>>> belt loop or something, maybe there are versions somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>> for telescopic canes?  I think they look kind of silly,
>>>>>>>>>>> personally but I suppose it's an option.
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was fortunate to grow up among many Jewish kids who all
>>>>>>>>>>>> had bar and bat mitzvahs, (Jewish celebrations of
>>>>>>>>>>>> coming-of-age that happen at age
>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 or 13) and most had dance parties for their bar and bat
>>>>>>>>>>>> mitzvahs, so I became comfortable with dancing and
>>>>>>>>>>>> potentially looking stupid at quite a young age. :) I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>>>> some people taught me how to dance, though I can't remember
>>>>>>>>>>>> who and honestly, by now I've forgotten most of my formal
>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction. I do remember being told that dancing is mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>> about having fun and just moving your body to the beat of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the music. I'm sure I don't dance perfectly but I've always
>>>>>>>>>>>> had fun and nobody has ever criticized my dancing or not
>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to be with me on the dance floor because of my
>>>>>>>>>>>> dancing. So I don't think you need to worry too much about
>>>>>>>>>>>> how you appear to others. If the group is doing a line dance
>>>>>>>>>>>> like the YMCA, and you don't know the moves for that
>>>>>>>>>>>> particular dance, there's no problem with sitting it out or
>>>>>>>>>>>> just moving off the dance floor to talk to people, or go get
>>>>>>>>>>>> a drink or snack or whatever, during that song. If you want
>>>>>>>>>>>> to learn some things, you could ask a friend or family
>>>>>>>>>>>> member who has lots of dancing experience to teach you or
>>>>>>>>>>>> just to watch your moves and tell you what's good and what
>>>>>>>>>>>> you could change or improve on. Also, slow dancing is easy
>>>>>>>>>>>> for girls who are just supposed to follow the man, but if
>>>>>>>>>>>> you're a guy and want to learn how to slow-dance with women
>>>>>>>>>>>> you may want to get a little bit of formal instruction.
>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is where to put my
>>>>>>>>>>>> cane while dancing. When I was younger I would just go with
>>>>>>>>>>>> a sighted friend and stash my cane at a table while my
>>>>>>>>>>>> friend and I danced.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm less comfortable being with the same person all night
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'd like to be able to keep track of my cane myself
>>>>>>>>>>>> without having it on the dance floor with me. If I go to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> dancing event I usually am not wearing clothes that allow
>>>>>>>>>>>> for storage of a telescoping cane, unless I bring a purse
>>>>>>>>>>>> and keep it on me while dancing, which I suppose is an
>>>>>>>>>>>> option. I'm curious if others have found good ways to manage
>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue. The best solution I've used is to find a sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> landmark of some sort like the bar or music stand and put my
>>>>>>>>>>>> cane in a corner near that spot. But this doesn't work as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well in large venues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a guy then; it's cool.  That works.  Longg as he can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dance a little, and is a good teacher.  Tell him to move
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you your body for you at first so you can get the movement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In japah, that is how the black belts teach the white
>>>>>>>>>>>>> belts.  That is how my instructor instructs me.  Also, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't drink, then that is fine too.  That is just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick I use.  You can do the same thing with a cup of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> water, or a soda; it should work the same way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to hang onto a cup like that, then any of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other methods will work just fine.  You just got to mix and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> match my man.  Mix and match.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Darian Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi listers:  should gender matter  in who teaches you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and  what would you suggest if you cannot or  choose not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> partake in alcoholic  beverages?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are very interesting points indeed,  Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> curious as to other ways you might go about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Justin!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:59 PM, justin williams
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a friend, preferably a girl to teach you how to dance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeping a drink in your hand will give you an excuse not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to dance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I avoid dance clubs like the plague if at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible; however, there are just times in social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situations where you just have to shake a leg.  Do the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best you can.  Just move your hips and try to keep up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the beat.  There are a lot of other people out there with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you who can't dance either.  They also look terrible.  If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you drink, it loosen's you up just a little.  It doen't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you better, you jus think you are.  Smile just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little even if you don't like dancing, or aren't very good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at it.  The appearance of enjoyment, or hopefully you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually enjoying your self, lets everyone see that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are confident; you can't dance and you know it, but you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps.  I feel you man; I'm in the same boat as you accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have learned a few tricks to fake it until I can get off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the dance floor.  I get fairly drunk on nights like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that if I go out with a group of people because I am using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trips to the bar as an excuse not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dance.  Remember, if possible, get a friend, especially a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> girl to teach you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Darian Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please  excuse  the slight 80's song reference,  but I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curious about how you all go about attending social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions where dancing is a part of the atmosphere?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you decide to not  take part in it because you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to dance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you too shy?   Do you just get out there regardless?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dancing, how do you learn how to dance  if you can't do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what a lot of folks do and watch it  on television  or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darian
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>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National
>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary, Missouri
>> Association of Guide dog Users President, and Guiding Eyes for the
>> Blind graduate 2008 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only
>> Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have
>> eternal life."
>> John 3:16
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