[nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?

Kaiti Shelton crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
Tue May 14 16:50:08 UTC 2013 

On 5/14/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yep, you got it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:16 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>
>> So I guess the main takeaways are.
>> 1. If you want to learn how to dance, it is best  to get a friend or
>> family
>> member to teach you.
>> 2 It's probably better to use a collapsable/telescoping  cane, especially
>> in
>> larger dance halls.
>>  3. Confidence (as in many aspects in life) is key; even if it's liquid
>> courage *smile* (don't worry under-agers, confidence is much better than
>> the
>> alternative because you'll  feel better in the morning hahaha) 4. ladies,
>> it's all in the purse (where  would we  be without you, Julie? *smile*).
>> 5. ladies: feel free to use  your date as a cane storer( . if  it works.
>> I'm
>> starting to get the idea that the ladies  have a  easier time here than
>> the
>> fellas).
>>   6. Cane holders may or not be an option ( experimentation is probably
>> where it's at on this one, again, unless your date doubles as a cane
>> storer
>> *smile*)  7. It's all about country music. no, it's all about rap. nope,
>> all
>> about having fun, so just go with it!
>>  does that just about cover it?
>>  yay for NABS!
>>  now back to the academic  stuff.
>>  )
>>
>> .
>> On May 13, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,  I don't go to these types of functions a lot if I can help
>>> it...  But I used to go to formals when I was in high school.  Back
>>> then I went with a group of friends.  We all had a pact that we would
>>> never leave one of our group alone.  It wasn't about me being blind or
>>> anything; we just didn't want to lose each other.
>>>
>>> Of course, that isn't practical  now that I'm older.  But I don't
>>> think I would ever set my cane aside in a corner or against a wall at
>>> a dance party.  There are too many people.  It is very easy to lose
>>> your friends  or whoever you are with.  Dances are also kind of
>>> disorienting to me because of the noise and the crowds, so I would
>>> feel nervous without my cane to help me get out.  For the women, I
>>> would suggest getting a purse.  You can get a light wait one that
>>> hangs over your shoulder and in front of you.  Just make it as light
>>> as you can to help you dance, but make sure it's big enough for a
>>> cane.  There are all types of purses.  If your outfit is dark, you can
>>> match a black one, and if you're wearing a brighter colored dress,
>>> then go with something silver.  Having a matching dress and shoes is
>>> always a good way to go.  You don't even need a heavy leather purse.
>>> A light, cloth one will do.  It also depends on your dress too and how
>>> formal the event is.  To be honest, I would feel safer keeping a purse
>>> on me as a blind person because I would hate to misplace something
>>> like that at a dance and be unable to find it again.  Also, girls, a
>>> purse is a great place to store the heals when you get tired of them.
>>>
>>> As for the dancing, I don't know since I avoid it whenever possible.
>>> I'd rather talk to people and listen to music I actually like.  The
>>> club type music isn't really my thing either.  But it's easy enough to
>>> learn standard dances from a trusted friend or family member.  My
>>> friends taught me and/or led me through all those dances in high
>>> school.  But I'd still rather not dance at all.  :)
>>>
>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Carly,
>>>> I'm not offended at all, so don't even worry about it.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A new infraction, TUI (traveling under the influence) CarAt 07:13 PM
>>>>> 5/13/2013, Darian Smith wrote:
>>>>>> That makes sense, a lot of sense.
>>>>>> well.. except for that's the first I  have heard of someone
>>>>>> succeeding a little more so at traveling  when they have had
>>>>>> something to drink; guess we should try to  incorporate that into
>>>>>> cane travel curriculum at our training centers *smile*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at  functions with blind people I would even  venture to say that
>>>>>> it's tough to get your own cane back just because someone almost
>>>>>> always walks out with someone else's cane haha On May 13, 2013, at
>>>>>> 7:00 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like to jump and twirl around a lot while dancing, so if I tried
>>>>>>> putting my cane down somewhere next to me I would definitely lose
>>>>>>> it by the end, and I tend to get kind of disoriented in the
>>>>>>> process of doing that so finding my table or corner again without
>>>>>>> a cane can be kind of tricky. Although if I've had a drink or two,
>>>>>>> I tend to be a better traveler... Or maybe just a more confident
>>>>>>> one. :) I haven't gone out dancing for a long while now so I don't
>>>>>>> remember if I kept a purse with me or not. If I went to a club or
>>>>>>> somewhere else where I didn't know many people then I think I
>>>>>>> would keep it on, but I would probably prefer to carry a small
>>>>>>> purse that might not be big enough for the cane. I've actually had
>>>>>>> the most cane trouble at dances with other blind people, because
>>>>>>> everybody has a cane and there aren't many folks to keep an eye on
>>>>>>> your cane for you. I suppose the purse or cane holster might be
>>>>>>> the best solution, unless there are good sound cues in the venue
>>>>>>> and it's not so crowded as to be impossible to navigate without a
>> cane.
>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I thought I'd chyme in on this one!
>>>>>>>> I hate dancing, because the dances I've been to, had a DJ that
>>>>>>>> only played rap music.
>>>>>>>> Where's the classic Country when I need it?
>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Darian
>>>>>>>> Smith [dsmithnfb at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:41 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are just brave, I guess. hahaha On May 13, 2013, at 6:22 PM,
>>>>>>>> Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes--and it's funny that everyone who responded to this thread
>>>>>>>>> before me has been male?
>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Haha, indeed!  I obviously wasn't thinking very clearly...I
>>>>>>>>>> suppose that would work for any of us guys, if we didn't really
>>>>>>>>>> care about looking strange...just one of the reasons guys have
>>>>>>>>>> it easier, I guess.  :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Right, but if I'm going dancing I'm not going to be wearing
>>>>>>>>>>> anything that holds a belt! How can you stow a cane on a
>>>>>>>>>>> dress? Just thinking about it is kind of hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Arielle,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen those funky cane holster thingies that attach to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> belt loop or something, maybe there are versions somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>> for telescopic canes?  I think they look kind of silly,
>>>>>>>>>>>> personally but I suppose it's an option.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was fortunate to grow up among many Jewish kids who all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had bar and bat mitzvahs, (Jewish celebrations of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming-of-age that happen at age
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 or 13) and most had dance parties for their bar and bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitzvahs, so I became comfortable with dancing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> potentially looking stupid at quite a young age. :) I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some people taught me how to dance, though I can't remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who and honestly, by now I've forgotten most of my formal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction. I do remember being told that dancing is mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about having fun and just moving your body to the beat of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the music. I'm sure I don't dance perfectly but I've always
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had fun and nobody has ever criticized my dancing or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to be with me on the dance floor because of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dancing. So I don't think you need to worry too much about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how you appear to others. If the group is doing a line dance
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the YMCA, and you don't know the moves for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular dance, there's no problem with sitting it out or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just moving off the dance floor to talk to people, or go get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a drink or snack or whatever, during that song. If you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to learn some things, you could ask a friend or family
>>>>>>>>>>>>> member who has lots of dancing experience to teach you or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just to watch your moves and tell you what's good and what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you could change or improve on. Also, slow dancing is easy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for girls who are just supposed to follow the man, but if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're a guy and want to learn how to slow-dance with women
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you may want to get a little bit of formal instruction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is where to put my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane while dancing. When I was younger I would just go with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sighted friend and stash my cane at a table while my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend and I danced.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm less comfortable being with the same person all night
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'd like to be able to keep track of my cane myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without having it on the dance floor with me. If I go to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dancing event I usually am not wearing clothes that allow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for storage of a telescoping cane, unless I bring a purse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and keep it on me while dancing, which I suppose is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> option. I'm curious if others have found good ways to manage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue. The best solution I've used is to find a sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>> landmark of some sort like the bar or music stand and put my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane in a corner near that spot. But this doesn't work as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well in large venues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a guy then; it's cool.  That works.  Longg as he can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dance a little, and is a good teacher.  Tell him to move
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you your body for you at first so you can get the movement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In japah, that is how the black belts teach the white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> belts.  That is how my instructor instructs me.  Also, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't drink, then that is fine too.  That is just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick I use.  You can do the same thing with a cup of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water, or a soda; it should work the same way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to hang onto a cup like that, then any of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other methods will work just fine.  You just got to mix and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> match my man.  Mix and match.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Darian Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi listers:  should gender matter  in who teaches you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and  what would you suggest if you cannot or  choose not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partake in alcoholic  beverages?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are very interesting points indeed,  Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curious as to other ways you might go about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Justin!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:59 PM, justin williams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a friend, preferably a girl to teach you how to dance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeping a drink in your hand will give you an excuse not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to dance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I avoid dance clubs like the plague if at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible; however, there are just times in social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situations where you just have to shake a leg.  Do the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best you can.  Just move your hips and try to keep up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the beat.  There are a lot of other people out there with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you who can't dance either.  They also look terrible.  If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you drink, it loosen's you up just a little.  It doen't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you better, you jus think you are.  Smile just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little even if you don't like dancing, or aren't very good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at it.  The appearance of enjoyment, or hopefully you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually enjoying your self, lets everyone see that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are confident; you can't dance and you know it, but you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps.  I feel you man; I'm in the same boat as you accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have learned a few tricks to fake it until I can get off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the dance floor.  I get fairly drunk on nights like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that if I go out with a group of people because I am using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trips to the bar as an excuse not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dance.  Remember, if possible, get a friend, especially a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> girl to teach you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Darian Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please  excuse  the slight 80's song reference,  but I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curious about how you all go about attending social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions where dancing is a part of the atmosphere?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you decide to not  take part in it because you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to dance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you too shy?   Do you just get out there regardless?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dancing, how do you learn how to dance  if you can't do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what a lot of folks do and watch it  on television  or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darian
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