[nabs-l] Best techniques for group computer science projects

Suzanne Germano sgermano at asu.edu
Tue Oct 29 02:51:44 UTC 2013


Unfortunately I am much more experienced with programming than either of
the other group members so I dont' really think them filtering what is
important would actually be correct.. One seems very clueless and
intimidated by the project (and not getting her part done)

This is a very small project and at this point we need ot see exact code
not just notes from it.

I worked as a computer programmer and used all visual. It is only if I have
to see someone else's monitor and not be able to have resolution where I
need it that there is an issue. I can read regular print if needed. I don't
even really like zoomtext because I dont' see everything at once that is
why I bought a 27 inch monitor for my laptop and only zoom a little bit .I
would rather sit really close and see everything than only get partial
glimpses.

The problem is most people have their resolution set super tiny.

I think I will request DRC put a large monitor in a room in the library so
I can connect laptop to that for future group projects.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Arielle Silverman <
Arielle.Silverman at asu.edu> wrote:

> Hi Suzanne and all,
>
> I can understand why listening to a reader might not be optimal, but
> it sounds like trying to use your vision is not optimal either, which
> is why you are asking us for advice. In the end you will need to
> decide which method works better in which situation. A reader can
> filter the content down to the part you really need to know. Perhaps
> you can take notes while you are listening to the reader, or you could
> be writer for the group and type the code rather than having to read
> and inspect the code. There is no perfect solution here; the best one
> will depend on what it is you have to do. But I would encourage you to
> give some serious thought to nonvisual solutions.
> Best,
> Arielle
>
> On 10/28/13, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
> > Ugh I hate not having control over what I see. I do not do anything with
> a
> > reader so I pretty much am not used to listening and remembering and
> > working under those conditions. I want to scan the code and see what
> needs
> > to be done no rely or trust someone else. I have so much usable vision it
> > is very hard to get people to understand I can't see it on their
> computer.
> > I write and read all my notes and not super huge. Larger than others
> write
> > but nothing where people would automatically think I had a vision issue.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:03 PM, christopher nusbaum <
> > dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In these situations I often ask one of my partners in the group to be
> >> a reader for me. If it is a group of two or more, this is most easily
> >> done by the person who is sitting closest to the computer. Based on my
> >> experience with these types of group projects, I must advise you to
> >> make sure you hold that reader accountable. Sometimes some group
> >> members can get off task, holding back the other members of the group.
> >> If you are relying on one member of the group to read you the
> >> information on the computer screen and that reader gets off task, you
> >> are at a loss. So, you might need to "mag" your reader if this is
> >> necessary.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >> Chris Nusbaum
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I have a group project in one of my computer science classes and
> >> > several
> >> > more to come before I finish the degree. Most sighted people sit
> around
> >> one
> >> > computer and all look at the screen. I use ZoomText so no one likes to
> >> look
> >> > at my screen since you lose so much view but obviously I can't see
> >> theirs.
> >> >
> >> > What techniques do you find work best for situations like this. It is
> >> not a
> >> > situation that we could run dual monitors and mirror them with one
> >> > having
> >> > zoom text enlarged. I am also not super fond of that since what I see
> >> > depends on where they have the mouse which may not be the area we are
> >> > talking about.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you
> >> >
> >> > Suzanne
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