[nabs-l] problem with college cafe

[Peter Donahue]

Hello Nathan and everyone,

    From the description of your situation it sounds to me that using a cane 
or a dog would do wonders to improve your navigation of this environment so 
DSS and security can deal with bigger fish on campus. My wife and I travel 
in similar environments and don't let chairs sticking out everywhere ruin 
our day.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] problem with college cafe


Nathan,
Without seeing the environment, I'm not going to judge that situation.
I might have dropped it, but I'm not the one with the hastle.
Like you, I hate noisy places at lunch time and dislike the annoying chairs.

We have a café at the community college too, but there are not too many
tables and if chairs are in the way, I have room to navigate around them.
Is this a small sandwich café? Do you have to carry a tray or is your stuff
in a bag? We only have trays at the cafeteria and for the cafe
they put your items in containers and I think they have bags if you ask for
that. Otherwise you just take the items to your table or whereever you are
going to eat. I haven't found this much a problem. When I was at george
mason university, GMU, at the café they assisted me to a table within the
café, but I don't think all chairs were hanging out, although I recall some
were.


I'm not sure they can enforce something like this. I'd ask them to put signs
up for students to  push in their chairs. It amazes me how students can
leave a mess, like crumbs, on the table, and not push in chairs. Its common
curtesy!
It could be a tripping hazzard. I think the school can certainly request
students take action, but I see no way to enforce it. I would not expect a
security officer to stand and patrol the café and give out warnings or
something for failing to push in chairs.
I mean, they cannot monitor it.

See what happens in the meeting and in the next few weeks. Otherwise, if the
problem isn't solved, you might try and get sighted assistance to find a
table. I also think carrying items in a to go bag will make
it easier to carry your items to a table.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Nathan Clark
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:16 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] problem with college cafe

Dear Nabs,
My name is Nathan Clark and I am one of the quieter people on this
list but I have a situation that I have at my community college where
I would like to have some opinions fro you all. about.

Today as I was walking into my school's café I discovered that almost
every table that I came upon had chairs that were sticking ot where
people had been sitting in and forgot to push their chairs in. My
school had a room off the café where students can eat their lunch in a
more quieter environment which is where I usually eat my lunch and
that is where I wanted to eat today. However, after struggling with
navigating through the chairs that were not pushed in I just gave up
and sat a different bale and had my lunch. After eating, I went to my
school's Secutrity department and expressed my concerns with them. The
lady who I talked to is named Sharon and she is not a security guard
but the secretary for the department. She knows me very well and she
knows from previous semesters that I have encountered this problem
before with the café. She helped me schedule an appointment with the
Assistant Chieef of Security on Tuesday.

My question for you all is should I have scheduled the meeting or just
dropped the problem. What could be some solutions that I could bring
up to my meeting with the Assistant Chief for Tuesday? If you were
wondering I forgot to say that I talked to my DSS office and they said
that they would work with the Secutiry department to solve this
problem.

I would like to hear what people have to say and wondering if this has
happened to other people on the list?
Sincerely,
Nathan Clark

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