[nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

Sami Osborne ligne14 at verizon.net
Mon Sep 8 22:17:37 UTC 2014


Hi all,

I agree with everything that's been said here.


Another fact which hasn't been mentioned is that if you feel a 
person's face and he or she is not expecting that, it can be 
considered as sexual harassment, which is illegal.  So I would 
recommend not even doing that.

For a blind person to recognize someone, just by their voice is 
the best wan to figure that out, as Arielle said.
 Btw, that's really strange, why would someone think it's odd 
that you don't want to fell their face?
 I think that a sighted person whom you don't know would think 
it's  incredible that the blind person would even recognize them,  
and would ask something like "wow, you can't see me, how do you 
know it was me?" and you could tell them that it's because of 
their voice you recognize, get to know them, and then maybe they 
could come to more of an understanding about blindness and what 
we can do.

 These are my thoughts on this topic, and by the way, great 
discussion.

Thanks,

Sami.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'Arielle Silverman'" <arielle71 at gmail.com>,"'National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:08:09 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

I haven't even felt my mother's and father's face in a very long 
time, like
as long as a childhood.   I remember my dad mentioning that one 
several
years ago.  I quickly changed the subject.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Arielle
Silverman via nabs-l
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 3:40 PM
To: Alana Leonhardy; National Association of Blind Students 
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

Absolute myth.  Human brains are programmed to recognize faces 
visually.  The
details that people recognize visually cannot be easily perceived 
by touch.
To me all faces feel the same, except maybe whether or not the 
person has
facial hair.  It's ridiculous to think that blind people should 
feel faces to
recognize people or gain information about what they look like 
visually.
I do have mental images of what my close family and friends look 
like, but
that has more to do with body shape, height and weight info that 
I get from
hugging them not feeling their faces.  Even those mental images 
are pretty
vague.  The best way I can tell people apart is by their voice.
Arielle

On 9/8/14, Alana Leonhardy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
 There's something very personal about putting your hands on 
someone
 else's face.  I have never had the desire to do so, and haven't 
met a
 blind person who has.  I have, however, encountered sighted 
strangers
 who thought I was odd for not warning to touch them.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 8, 2014, at 11:48, justin williams via nabs-l
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 wrote:

 I don't do his often except with a woman; not even with my 
parents.
 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Karl
 Martin Adam via nabs-l
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:46 PM
 To: Marissa Tejeda; National Association of Blind Students 
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 list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

 I haven't done this either--except with people I'm dating and 
like my
 parents.  It does seem to be a common stereotype and something 
that
 happens in a lot of literature and movies.
 Perhaps some people who went blind later in life and think 
knowing
 what people's faces are like is important do this?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Marissa Tejeda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: Nabsl <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 05:25:08 -0700
 Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

 Hi guys,

 So, for a long time I've been want to know this, but never got 
around
 to asking.  I, personally, don't feel faces to know what people 
look
like.
 Do
 people really feel faces? How can it give someone a picture if 
they
 feel the face? Is this just a movie and a myth, or reality and 
true?

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